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kefln 31-08-2012 11:42 PM

“The boys are blameless”
 
Tonights interviews were very revealing.

Mike known for drinking, fighting and womanising, along with a 40 year old playboy, were completely blameless in Samantha’s eyes. And Ash, who acted out of bruised ego, did nothing wrong.

She had no problem dismissing Rhians feelings, making fairly nasty statements about Danica and sticking her fingers down her throat about Coleen.

Yet Rhian earlier in the week, during her interview, came across very well. While Danica was very gracious tonight, even when she was told that Samantha called her poisonous.

Its obvious that Samantha made her judgements based on personal bias and allowed for nothing else.

When those that are being the most critical, are being nasty too. And those that are being criticised are being respectful. Then you have to question who's really in the wrong.

reece(: 31-08-2012 11:57 PM

She was full of **** tonight

Madmacs 01-09-2012 06:46 AM

....completely agree.

Sam came across as a bitter lady who couldn't back down, even after defending Ashley as being blameless...most people can see she is trying to be controversial but also that she has to be right.

Danica, on the other hand...wow...her reaction to being told Sam called her poison was incredible (I don't think I could have held back from saying something) ...she acted graciously and with respect...she's gorgeous IMO

lostalex 01-09-2012 08:35 AM

Welli havn't seen Mike do anything that he deserves blame for, other than the cheating with the noms thing. But with Danica, I don't think he did anything wrong.

I think Ashley was totally different, Ashley was being a bit of a bully towards Rhian, but I didn't see Mike ever do that.

I was really surprised by her support for Julie.

MrWong 01-09-2012 08:50 AM

Sam is a ridiculous, simpering, twat.

Ashley can't be blamed because he's an olympian? :rolleyes:

No wonder she's a Daily Heil journo with reasoning like that.

Marc 01-09-2012 09:09 AM

Delusional. But what a woman

Jake. 01-09-2012 09:10 AM

Glad Mr Burns is back to the power plant tbh

Kizzy 01-09-2012 09:18 AM

I was sat open mouthed whilst she said that too, he's an 'olympian' so what?...
The woman totally contradicted her own stance on women, as in her original 'controversial' article she inferred that older less attractive women were jealous of her?
Er, hate to say this sam but yourself and julie fall into this catagory.
Vanessa feltz was brilliant in her summation of sam, as was colleen when she branded her a 1950's housewife...
Couldn't have put it better myself...Oh wait, I did :)

Gillian-73 01-09-2012 09:39 AM

When she said "Ashley is an olympian this is the year of the olympics so is blameless" i couldn't believe what i was hearing, nor could Emma

the truth 01-09-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kefln (Post 5454211)
Tonights interviews were very revealing.

Mike known for drinking, fighting and womanising, along with a 40 year old playboy, were completely blameless in Samantha’s eyes. And Ash, who acted out of bruised ego, did nothing wrong.

She had no problem dismissing Rhians feelings, making fairly nasty statements about Danica and sticking her fingers down her throat about Coleen.

Yet Rhian earlier in the week, during her interview, came across very well. While Danica was very gracious tonight, even when she was told that Samantha called her poisonous.

Its obvious that Samantha made her judgements based on personal bias and allowed for nothing else.

When those that are being the most critical, are being nasty too. And those that are being criticised are being respectful. Then you have to question who's really in the wrong.

samantha was 100% right
she stuck to her guns
women demand people to speak their minds. so she does and women dont like it, because her opinion differs from theirs.

the boys were single
danica and rhian were not
so theyre 100% in the right , theyre 100% in the worng
period, end of.

NONESHALLPASS 01-09-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillian-73 (Post 5454744)
When she said "Ashley is an olympian this is the year of the olympics so is blameless" i couldn't believe what i was hearing, nor could Emma

Samantha really showed herself up didnt she?
What a complete idiot
The comment about Ashley being blameless due to the olympics and him being an olympian ??
Total fool
Bet she is thinking today "why the hell did I say that" :joker:

the truth 01-09-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NONESHALLPASS (Post 5455402)
Samantha really showed herself up didnt she?
What a complete idiot
The comment about Ashley being blameless due to the olympics and him being an olympian ??
Total fool
Bet she is thinking today "why the hell did I say that" :joker:

no she didnt. she was 100% right, youre 100% wrong.

pcro 01-09-2012 03:08 PM

Samantha came across as rather pathetic IMO. Its like she has transported here from the 1950s. While the girls may have had their faults, Samantha reveals a lot about herself by clearly hating independent women who do not bow down to men. And her love for Julie seems based on Julie's hate for other women. Samantha IS typical of the housewives at home who have only voted women off this show. And I say all this as a male chauvinist pig. lol

MrWong 01-09-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455422)
no she didnt. she was 100% right, youre 100% wrong.

She's just jealous because the only gifts she recieved were flowers, paid bar bills and a train ticket.

Quote:

Throughout my adult life, I’ve regularly had bottles of bubbly or wine sent to my restaurant table by men I don’t know. Once, a well-dressed chap bought my train ticket when I was standing behind him in the queue, while there was another occasion when a charming gentleman paid my fare as I stepped out of a cab in Paris.

Another time, as I was walking through London’s Portobello Road market, I was tapped on the shoulder and presented with a beautiful bunch of flowers. Even bar tenders frequently shoo my credit card away when I try to settle my bill.

And whenever I’ve asked what I’ve done to deserve such treatment, the donors of these gifts have always said the same thing: my pleasing appearance and pretty smile made their day.

Cherie 01-09-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 5455470)
She's just jealous because the only gifts she recieved were flowers, paid bar bills and a train ticket.

Nice one Mr Wong,

Cherie 01-09-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455377)
samantha was 100% right
she stuck to her guns
women demand people to speak their minds. so she does and women dont like it, because her opinion differs from theirs.

the boys were singledanica and rhian were not
so theyre 100% in the right , theyre 100% in the worng
period, end of.

All the girls did was flirt,, so you are saying men and women married or in relationships whatever cannot have a bit of banter with anyone other than their partner? would make for very boring work places...,

the truth 01-09-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcro (Post 5455434)
Samantha came across as rather pathetic IMO. Its like she has transported here from the 1950s. While the girls may have had their faults, Samantha reveals a lot about herself by clearly hating independent women who do not bow down to men. And her love for Julie seems based on Julie's hate for other women. Samantha IS typical of the housewives at home who have only voted women off this show. And I say all this as a male chauvinist pig. lol

utter rubbish...youre even getting your exact words and opinions staight from the bigoted mouth of colleen? how pathetic is that?

shes a successful woman with a great career, happy marriage, happy home, shes skilled talented, caring and a damn fine wife and cook, plus a successful writer who has the guts to speak her mind and to look also at the male point of view and the discrimination men suffer, just as much as women. equality works both ways

the truth 01-09-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 5455574)
All the girls did was flirt,, so you are saying men and women married or in relationships whatever cannot have a bit of banter with anyone other than their partner? would make for very boring work places...,

how many women in work show you their boobs, tweak your nipples, shows you their asses, stick their head in your crotch , wipe cream off your lips, ask you out for dinner dates, etc etc on live tv? oh and talk money and gifts all day long?

Jake. 01-09-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455377)
samantha was 100% right
she stuck to her guns
women demand people to speak their minds. so she does and women dont like it, because her opinion differs from theirs.

the boys were single
danica and rhian were not
so theyre 100% in the right , theyre 100% in the worng
period, end of.

Biggest load of **** I've ever read :joker:

MrWong 01-09-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455769)
utter rubbish...youre even getting your exact words and opinions staight from the bigoted mouth of colleen? how pathetic is that?

shes a successful woman with a great career, happy marriage, happy home, shes skilled talented, caring and a damn fine wife and cook, plus a successful writer who has the guts to speak her mind and to look also at the male point of view and the discrimination men suffer, just as much as women. equality works both ways

Yet the simpering bint placed 100% of the blame on the girls. :nono:

Kizzy 01-09-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 5455470)
She's just jealous because the only gifts she recieved were flowers, paid bar bills and a train ticket.

Haha as a rinser she is rubbish...lol
Look what she has to do for her hubby ...She is nothing but a glorified skivvy! well done sam lol

the truth 01-09-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 5455782)
Yet the simpering bint placed 100% of the blame on the girls. :nono:

yes and she was 100% correct to do so

the truth 01-09-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5455787)
Haha as a rinser she is rubbish...lol
Look what she has to do for her hubby ...She is nothing but a glorified skivvy! well done sam lol

utter jealous rubbish ....theyre happy together and marriage and relationships are a team game, not a blame game. you work together to make it work

Kizzy 01-09-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455790)
utter jealous rubbish ....theyre happy together and marriage and relationships are a team game, not a blame game. you work together to make it work

Not at all!
They are a team game you are spot on... Does she monitor his clothes/ hair/weight then?
If I were his wife the bliddy ridiculous handlebar moustache would go, and he would smarten up! he also looks a little rotund tbh...:joker:

Cherie 01-09-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455772)
how many women in work show you their boobs, tweak your nipples, shows you their asses, stick their head in your crotch , wipe cream off your lips, ask you out for dinner dates, etc etc on live tv? oh and talk money and gifts all day long?

oh come on....all a bit of harmless fun...was there inappropriate touching....any tongues down throats...any under the duvet action caught by the night camera.... why is the OT is being referred to as a "boy" at age 30 ....he really should know when someone is flirting, he is old enough. the Prince knew exactly what the score was and wasnt in the least phased by any of it. Ashley on the other hand was being egged on by Harvey, who probably had the same idea as Sam that because he is an Olympian he should have anything he set his heart on.....Harvey set Ashley up for the fall, mainly because of his belief that because of what Rhian did for a day job she would be easy. Rhian said as much on BOTS.

Kizzy 01-09-2012 05:57 PM

I worry.. I really do, what example is this to our sons and young men? That they can accuse women of 'leading them on' hound them for attention even after being politely told that they are involved with other men?...It's just weird.

pcro 01-09-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5455790)
utter jealous rubbish ....theyre happy together and marriage and relationships are a team game, not a blame game. you work together to make it work

yes, as long as the woman is always 100 per cent wrong and keeps her apron on:joker:

Madmacs 01-09-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 5455815)
.....Harvey set Ashley up for the fall, mainly because of his belief that because of what Rhian did for a day job she would be easy. Rhian said as much on BOTS.

...I think that's the crux of the matter for the 'boys'...maybe having such a low opinion of women who use their looks to make money they felt that they would be 'easy' to get and when they realised they were dealing with independent young women who have higher standards than just a bunch of immature, randy lads..their egos couldn't take it and they turned on them because of it...embarrassed and vengeful - it's a story as old as time :spin:

glasstangerine 02-09-2012 11:28 AM

I don't think Rhian did much of anything wrong other than being too attractive.

Danica repeatedly went over the line but I don't think she realizes that she does, however she isn't blameless.

The two boys run themselves into brick walls repeatedly and get sympathy for it? There aren't many situations where you can do something stupid and harmful to yourself and people don't tell you that you are stupid and blame you for your own problems.

Must be nice to be a man. Women today still get blamed for their own rapes. Men are still excused for bad behavior far too often.

Cherie 02-09-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glasstangerine (Post 5457817)
I don't think Rhian did much of anything wrong other than being too attractive.

Danica repeatedly went over the line but I don't think she realizes that she does, however she isn't blameless.

The two boys run themselves into brick walls repeatedly and get sympathy for it? There aren't many situations where you can do something stupid and harmful to yourself and people don't tell you that you are stupid and blame you for your own problems.

Must be nice to be a man. Women today still get blamed for their own rapes. Men are still excused for bad behavior far too often.

and even worse excused by women who really should know better.

Vernon Kaye is a prime example, he got off rather lightly considering he was in his 30s, and had the wife and kids. Rhian was 20 and had her head turned by his attentions, she was the one that got berated and belittled for it. Case closed.

Kizzy 02-09-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 5457872)
and even worse excused by women who really should know better.

Vernon Kaye is a prime example, he got off rather lightly considering he was in his 30s, and had the wife and kids. Rhian was 20 and had her head turned by his attentions, she was the one that got berated and belittled for it. Case closed.

I agree, some celebs are given 'demi-god' status and it stinks!
julie and ashley are too imo.. One for being an aged soap actress and one for lastin 4 mins in the olympics!...:conf:
It's all wrong, why are others judged as 'mere mortals'?...
Sams sycophantic chunterings are all to common, if ashley has shot rhian sam would have said she threw herself under the bullet!

the truth 02-09-2012 03:01 PM

samantha was 100% right. women and feminists need to finally realise equality works both ways and we are all sick of the anti male abuse and sexism.

Kizzy 02-09-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5458281)
samantha was 100% right. women and feminists need to finally realise equality works both ways and we are all sick of the anti male abuse and sexism.

Women should adopt chauvinistic attitudes?...I hope its not in my lifetime .


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