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Silent Scream 05-09-2012 10:44 PM

BOTS exonerating Julie completely and slaughtering Colleen.
 
So much for impartial journalism. They're rewriting history, taking liberties with the truth, distorting the facts and launching a massive agenda with such force even the dullest BB fan couldn't possibly miss it.

Disgraceful, imo.

PrincessIona 05-09-2012 11:01 PM

It was unbelievable, a complete and utter disgrace

Kazanne 05-09-2012 11:03 PM

Terrible,it's safe to say now that Emma Willis is a crap presenter,she was so far up Julies arse she could see daylight,utter disgraceful the way they let that old cow talk about the other housemates.

Gillian-73 05-09-2012 11:05 PM

It was absolutely pathetic and pointless. It wasn't worth watching!

chuff me dizzy 05-09-2012 11:06 PM

Disgusting and prove that its time Willis left, Coleen to win to piss off Emma and julie

Shaun 05-09-2012 11:14 PM

I don't see why you're surprised... they're hardly the Nuremberg trials :p

Cherie 05-09-2012 11:16 PM

Oh come on if it had been Coleen there, Emma would have acted exactly the same. She has questions to read and its not a public hanging, Julie had just been evicted from a game show, though you would never think it judging from some of the horrified views on here...would a public flogging satify the baying for blood...:joker:

Nice to see my theory about the Prince being a bit too savvy to be taken in by Danica was proved correct.... where's Lex tonight, he was the other one who had the same theory.:tongue:

TIGHAMADAN 05-09-2012 11:18 PM

Julie was very peed off at being evicted. She was livid.

Silent Scream 05-09-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CherieB (Post 5466958)
Oh come on if it had been Coleen there, Emma would have acted exactly the same. She has questions to read and its not a public hanging, Julie had just been evicted from a game show, though you would never think it judging from some of the horrified views on here...would a public flogging satify the baying for blood...:joker:

Well silly me for thinking Julie should have been taken to task for her disgusting behaviour in the house. Maybe she would have learned something if everyone wasn't fawning all over her despite her vile behaviour.

Young people watch this showing thinking Jesus I can't believe what she's just said then Emma comes along and says it's okay this kind of thing is absolutely fine after all haha it's all a big game don't worry about a woman in the DR who was close to a breakdown.

Get it, got it, good? WTF does that even mean?

The collective IQ of this country gets lower every single day.

Kate! 05-09-2012 11:27 PM

I'm so glad I didn't watch it now, I'd have been throwing things at the tv. As you do. :laugh:

Right Chuff, pour us all another Sambuca and let's continue to celebrate Julie's eviction. Yay. :D

Sour cow.

Marsh. 05-09-2012 11:27 PM

Only one I liked was Linda Lusardi, who at least tried to pull Julie up on something.

Marsh. 05-09-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5466984)
Well silly me for thinking Julie should have been taken to task for her disgusting behaviour in the house. Maybe she would have learned something if everyone wasn't fawning all over her despite her vile behaviour.

Young people watch this showing thinking Jesus I can't believe what she's just said then Emma comes along and says it's okay this kind of thing is absolutely fine after all haha it's all a big game don't worry about a woman in the DR who was close to a breakdown.

Get it, got it, good? WTF does that even mean?

The collective IQ of this country gets lower every single day.

If anyone is taking life lessons from Big Brother, they need help.

And no one young enough to be that impressionable should be watching in the first place.

Silent Scream 05-09-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5466998)
If anyone is taking life lessons from Big Brother, they need help.

Life lessons? lol. Many things shape young people's views of life, the media has massive input on that and they are almost always completely irresponsible.

I'm sure you'd like to think your kids will listen to you more than a TV programme. You're wrong.

Marsh. 06-09-2012 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5467010)
Life lessons? lol. Many things shape young people's views of life, the media has massive input on that and they are almost always completely irresponsible.

I'm sure you'd like to think your kids will listen to you more than a TV programme. You're wrong.

Like I said, anyone young enough to be that impressionable shouldn't be watching.

I'd like to think my kids would be brought up already fully aware that behaviour like Julie's is disgusting and wrong, it would be my job as a parent to ensure this.

Cherie 06-09-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5467010)
Life lessons? lol. Many things shape young people's views of life, the media has massive input on that and they are almost always completely irresponsible.

I'm sure you'd like to think your kids will listen to you more than a TV programme. You're wrong.




I do hope these kids you are speaking about arent logged in here then, to see adults speaking about other adults in the most derogatory of terms.

funkime 06-09-2012 11:28 AM

get real people its a game! At the end of the day julie was the only real person in there, loud and brash, thats how she is, if ye didnt like her ye should have changed channels. There are 5 snakes left in the house....colleen and martin knew they couldnt win unless they got rid of her. Colleen is a whinger since day one, should have gone first! Martin? Jeeeezz what a bore, and yet he sowed the seed for julies downfall, as for HAM, what an embarrasing trio. Julian had them all well sussed and deserves to win.

Stevep 06-09-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by funkime (Post 5467553)
get real people its a game! At the end of the day julie was the only real person in there, loud and brash, thats how she is, if ye didnt like her ye should have changed channels. There are 5 snakes left in the house....colleen and martin knew they couldnt win unless they got rid of her. Colleen is a whinger since day one, should have gone first! Martin? Jeeeezz what a bore, and yet he sowed the seed for julies downfall, as for HAM, what an embarrasing trio. Julian had them all well sussed and deserves to win.

He 'sowed the seed' for Julie because she deserved it. Btw, i always find it funny when people try to defend someones undesirable behaviour by describing them as 'real', lol. What a load of rubbish. She was 'real' but if being 'real' equates to being rude and vulgar, then who gives a toss if she is being 'real' or not? She deserves to be outed purely because she was rude and a snake. There is no rule that states that housemates must be 'real' in order to win.

optimisticcynic 06-09-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevep (Post 5467589)
He 'sowed the seed' for Julie because she deserved it. Btw, i always find it funny when people try to defend someones undesirable behaviour by describing them as 'real', lol. What a load of rubbish. She was 'real' but if being 'real' equates to being rude and vulgar, then who gives a toss if she is being 'real' or not? She deserves to be outed purely because she was rude and a snake. There is no rule that states that housemates must be 'real' in order to win.

Boom!

Nedusa 06-09-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5466818)
So much for impartial journalism. They're rewriting history, taking liberties with the truth, distorting the facts and launching a massive agenda with such force even the dullest BB fan couldn't possibly miss it.

Disgraceful, imo.

I thought watching both the eviction interview and the later appearance on BOTS that Chulie Badyear was pretty much allowed to say anything she wanted without reproach from any of the interviewers. I also thought she actually intimidated both Brian and Emma to the point where they did not want to get into any area where the Hagster held the opposite view.

you could actually sense the fear coming from them both in their verbal exchanges and in their body language. They were both probably thinking ".... gets this *******ed up old Hag away from me".......

It shows their limits as presenters but to be fair she (Hagster) intimidated everyone around her including panellists and audience alike.

Bet BB will think twice in future about putting someone like her in the show...!!!

toto7 06-09-2012 12:04 PM

tottally agree ...and who did her makeup ??? julian probably..dark green sparkly eye shadow...leave it to the teenagers granny..and YOU ARE NOT IN CORRIE ANYMORE !!!so ditch the stupid saying and the leopard print..you just look desperate and sad...but that sums her up !!!

flamingGalah! 06-09-2012 12:07 PM

They were speaking sense, Coleen is a nasty old hag :xyxwave:

funkime 06-09-2012 12:45 PM

most of the comments written here could have been written by julie herself! Bad language used here no different to hers. as for how she looks and dresses thats her choice as it is everyones...."TO EACH THEIR OWN " and all that.

funkime 06-09-2012 12:50 PM

most of the comments written here could have been written by julie herself! Bad language used here no different to hers. as for how she looks and dresses thats her choice as it is everyones...."TO EACH THEIR OWN " and all that.

Patricia4 06-09-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 5466991)
Only one I liked was Linda Lusardi, who at least tried to pull Julie up on something.

She didnt win though Julie filled her up and her gob shut very quickly.:joker:

Livia 06-09-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkime (Post 5467685)
most of the comments written here could have been written by julie herself! Bad language used here no different to hers. as for how she looks and dresses thats her choice as it is everyones...."TO EACH THEIR OWN " and all that.

The difference being, of course, that this is a Big Brother forum, designed specifically to discuss housemates, of which Julie was one.

Irene Pearson 06-09-2012 01:15 PM

Quite agree. Some of the comments are vile.People hiding behind their anonymity spewing out abuse to anyone who has a differing opinion IMO is cowardice and immaturity.This site however is a lot better than some where the real nutters go to have fun.

Marsh. 06-09-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 5467705)
She didnt win though Julie filled her up and her gob shut very quickly.:joker:

This doesn't make any sense to me. But Julie just showed herself up.

Someone briefly pointed out a home truth she didn't like and Julie got all defensive because she knows Linda was right.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toto7 (Post 5467634)
tottally agree ...and who did her makeup ??? julian probably..dark green sparkly eye shadow...leave it to the teenagers granny..and YOU ARE NOT IN CORRIE ANYMORE !!!so ditch the stupid saying and the leopard print..you just look desperate and sad...but that sums her up !!!

Well said, Toto. :hugesmile:

I also agree with other posters that Emma Willis, and Brian to a lesser extent, pretty much rolled over and let the old hag have full rein to vent her bile as much as she wanted to.

Julie had the opportunity to put her hands up and say, 'Yes, I was playing a game, pretending to love them all when they really pissed me off', which she'd never do, we know. It was the job of the presenters to confront her with the obvious contradiction in her claims to be simultaneously 'real' (rude and hateful) and 'a good actress' (pretending to be nice). Brian did this to some extent, but Emma's performance was fawning and cringeworthy.

The CBB production team had the opportunity of showing Julie a few clips, like the 'pie in the face' clip, alongside the lies she told to HMs, and confronting her about her duplicity.

What really annoyed me was the decision to allow Julie to be exposed to her fellow HMs and have to deal with some of the flack as a result of her bad behaviour, then throw her a rope at the last minute, via the newsreader task, in an attempt to 'rehabilitate' her just before she was due to be booted out of the show. This supplied Emma with the chance to look at the 'lighter' side of Juie's bad behaviour and ignore most of the bullying and vitriol.

Fosse 06-09-2012 01:46 PM

Ultimately, Julie is pretty thick..

Her vile behaviour was transparent to everyone.

PrincessIona 06-09-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5467630)
I thought watching both the eviction interview and the later appearance on BOTS that Chulie Badyear was pretty much allowed to say anything she wanted without reproach from any of the interviewers. I also thought she actually intimidated both Brian and Emma to the point where they did not want to get into any area where the Hagster held the opposite view.

you could actually sense the fear coming from them both in their verbal exchanges and in their body language. They were both probably thinking ".... gets this *******ed up old Hag away from me".......

It shows their limits as presenters but to be fair she (Hagster) intimidated everyone around her including panellists and audience alike.

Bet BB will think twice in future about putting someone like her in the show...!!!

Exactly, it was clear they were too scared.. But what did they think would happen?

At the beginning of bots Emma said they would be asking the questions "that Brian didn't have the balls to ask" but when it came down to it she was worse then him.

Even when Linda stood up to her you could see she was very intimidated.

Also, why didn't the audience get to ask any questions?

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=PrincessIona;5467806]Exactly, it was clear they were too scared.. But what did they think would happen?

At the beginning of bots Emma said they would be asking the questions "that Brian didn't have the balls to ask" but when it came down to it she was worse then him.

Even when Linda stood up to her you could see she was very intimidated.

Also, why didn't the audience get to ask any questions?[/QUOTE]

Was I imagining it, or did BBBOTS have a different audience for Julie (i.e. a lot of Julie supporters) than they did for Lorenzo?

If it was the same one, they were applauding Lorenzo for standing up to Julie, then applauding Julie for being a vile old bat, which doesn't make sense - unless they were just acting like sheep and doing what the floor manager told them to do.

kefln 06-09-2012 02:19 PM

This hardly surprises me.

Jasmine was given an open mike to spew and was never challenged. Samantha made some horrid comments, but was never challenged. So why should they challenge Julie?

However Danica had to answer some very hard questions and her "behaviour" has been part of nearly every interview we've seen.

Its a hedge betting system that they have. They tackle those that they feel confident that they can control.

the truth 06-09-2012 02:27 PM

nah. julies behaviour was nowhere near as bad as youre trying to portray. what did she said that bad, colleens fat ass coment was out of order, she said danica deserved to be handcuffed (when shes was tied to the prince) that was harmless fun, she said she should get more respect, thats her opinion fine, she asked harvey if he was voting lorenzo, ok that was game play , harvey and co have their own code which means they will never vote for each other, that too is game play, she was upset over nomination, she said they should all feel guilty as hell, big deal. she said she needed a break from jasmine for a while, fair call, jasmine was a nightmare

she wasnt performing that was her she was herself. she was very genuinee much of the time, so she kissed people she voted for, so what? thats the game. she was aazing entertainment and did say many things to peoples face far more than anyone else.

everyone else is even more fake and not being theselves imho

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kefln (Post 5467834)
This hardly surprises me.

Jasmine was given an open mike to spew and was never challenged. Samantha made some horrid comments, but was never challenged. So why should they challenge Julie?

However Danica had to answer some very hard questions and her "behaviour" has been part of nearly every interview we've seen.

Its a hedge betting system that they have. They tackle those that they feel confident that they can control.

I think you're right, Kefln. I'm also fed up that they continue to make snide references to Danica. Julie doesnt hold a candle to Danica when it comes down holding your hands up to questionable behaviour. Danica took her criticism on the chin and answered some difficult questions with real integrity, whereas Julie admitted nothing, apologised for nothing and was barely challenged about anything.

the truth 06-09-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 5467848)
I think you're right, Kefln. I'm also fed up that they continue to make snide references to Danica. Julie doesnt hold a candle to Danica when it comes down holding your hands up to questionable behaviour. Danica took her criticism on the chin and answered some difficult questions with real integrity, whereas Julie admitted nothing, apologised for nothing and was barely challenged about anything.

rubbish danica is the fakest person in the world. she just said what the crowd wanted to hear, they immediately went back to being a rinser and celebrating rinsing another bunch of lonely broken hearted old en for £6000
Im amazed you fell for her 3 minute fake apology after a lifetime of disgusting rinsing. :conf:

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467845)
nah. julies behaviour was nowhere near as bad as youre trying to portray. what did she said that bad, colleens fat ass coment was out of order, she said danica deserved to be handcuffed (when shes was tied to the prince) that was harmless fun, she said she should get more respect, thats her opinion fine, she asked harvey if he was voting lorenzo, ok that was game play , harvey and co have their own code which means they will never vote for each other, that too is game play, she was upset over nomination, she said they should all feel guilty as hell, big deal. she said she needed a break from jasmine for a while, fair call, jasmine was a nightmare

she wasnt performing that was her she was herself. she was very genuinee much of the time, so she kissed people she voted for, so what? thats the game. she was aazing entertainment and did say many things to peoples face far more than anyone else.

everyone else is even more fake and not being theselves imho

She initiated a conversation with Coleen, saying she 'loved' her leopard (Lep) print top and Coleen replied politely, showing her the other half of the outfit. As soon as the conversation ended and Coleen had moved out of earshot, Julie muttered *****ing twat' under her breath.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467853)
rubbish danica is the fakest person in the world. she just said what the crowd wanted to hear, they immediately went back to being a rinser and celebrating rinsing another bunch of lonely broken hearted old en for £6000
Im amazed you fell for her 3 minute fake apology after a lifetime of disgusting rinsing. :conf:

My opinion wasn't influenced by the mere '3 minutes' you mention in her exit interview but are based on how she came across in the house.

I also think that if 'lonely, broken hearted old men' (or dirty-minded voyeurs) are stupid enough to want to send presents to someone based on a phone call or online conversation, then they deserve all they get.

the truth 06-09-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clootie Dumpling (Post 5467855)
She initiated a conversation with Coleen, saying she 'loved' her leopard (Lep) print top and Coleen replied politely, showing her the other half of the outfit. As soon as the conversation ended and Coleen had moved out of earshot, Julie muttered *****ing twat' under her breath.

didnt see that. that is rude I wont lie. no doubt 3 weeks with fake colleen in that environment does affect a 70 year old woman. dont forget colleen said many mean things about julie pretty much on an hourly basis, including the infamous, everyone would love to stick a pie in bet lynchs face. theyre as bad as each other, although I maintain at least julie was entertaining. colleen doesnt belong in the entertainent business at all.

kefln 06-09-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467853)
rubbish danica is the fakest person in the world. she just said what the crowd wanted to hear, they immediately went back to being a rinser and celebrating rinsing another bunch of lonely broken hearted old en for £6000
Im amazed you fell for her 3 minute fake apology after a lifetime of disgusting rinsing. :conf:

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467845)
nah. julies behaviour was nowhere near as bad as youre trying to portray.
....
she wasnt performing that was her she was herself. she was very genuinee much of the time

How can these two posts have come from the same person? :hugesmile:

Everyone in the house is pretty much in agreement that Julie was the biggest player in there. She never confronted anyone, she just told someone that she loved them, before slaughtering them behind their backs.

She was even caught out for trying to fix the vote.


I find it funny to see that people will let some HM's get away with anything, but d*mn others to hell, simply because they disagree with the HM's career choice.

Julie is a "respected" actress, but is in reality a complete b*tch with a massive sense of self importance. Danica is a glamour model and phone sex worker, but tried her best to get on with as many in the house as possible. Julie has no problem slating people inside and outside of the house. Danica was polite and never raised to the bait, even when told that Samantha called her poison.

Goes to show that "fame" and "respectability" don't necessarily make for nice people. While some glamour models are living proof that you should never judge a book by its cover.

Clootie Dumpling 06-09-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5467862)
didnt see that. that is rude I wont lie. no doubt 3 weeks with fake colleen in that environment does affect a 70 year old woman. dont forget colleen said many mean things about julie pretty much on an hourly basis, including the infamous, everyone would love to stick a pie in bet lynchs face. theyre as bad as each other, although I maintain at least julie was entertaining. colleen doesnt belong in the entertainent business at all.

We've obviously got two very different perspectives.

From my POV, Julie has done the 'I love you', closely followed by a muttered insult so many times that it more than cancels out any of her 'entertaining moments. And I honestly don't think ther have been many.

Coleen, on the other hand, who I was prepared to dislike because I hate 'Loose Women', comes across as genuine and I have really felt for her at times, particularly when Julie bullied her by cornering her on the sofa after her news bulletin revealing that Coleen had talked about the ciggie-hogging incident - squeezing her cheeks really hard, groping her boobs and kissing her on the lips, while snarling 'endearments' at her.


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