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arista 27-11-2012 05:12 PM

gay couples to adopt is a form of child abuse, says UKIP election candidate
 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...66_306x423.jpg
"Allowing gay couples to adopt is a form of child abuse, says UKIP election candidate
Winston McKenzie is standing in this week's Croydon North by-election
Former boxer says letting same sex couples adopt is a violation of children's human rights
He also accuses gay celebrities of coming out 'as a fashion'"



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2DRpWLlko

What a Fool
He could have won that Election.

Jamie585 27-11-2012 05:14 PM

Haha, He also looks like a complete *****

Marcus. 27-11-2012 05:14 PM

He shot himself in the foot

Kizzy 27-11-2012 05:28 PM

I'm pleased this biggoted 'party' are outing themselves as totally backwards, any credibility they had is gone...

Ramsay 27-11-2012 05:30 PM

I bet he secretly loves the willy

Marcus. 27-11-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 5652401)
I bet he secretly loves the willy

Boom

Novo 27-11-2012 05:35 PM

The Highest rated comment on there surprised me

LemonJam 27-11-2012 06:04 PM

****ing hell I despair for the people who wrote those top comments.

Black Dagger 27-11-2012 06:08 PM

Daily Mail readers in acting like ******** shocker?

Jack_ 27-11-2012 06:18 PM

Welcome to the BNP Lite party and the paper of the reactionary right.

Saph 27-11-2012 06:30 PM

some of the comments on there are just horrendous

Munchkins 27-11-2012 06:33 PM

Everyone its daily ****ing fail, what do you expect :conf:

Marcus. 27-11-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkins (Post 5652501)
Everyone its daily ****ing fail, what do you expect :conf:

Them not be like that

arista 27-11-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 5652491)
Welcome to the BNP Lite party and the paper of the reactionary right.

No way.

Kizzy 27-11-2012 06:42 PM

The underclass have the BNP
everyone else has UKIP
ignorance packaged and presented with a more socially acceptable bow...

MTVN 27-11-2012 06:59 PM

Bit lazy to compare them to the BNP, they're not really similar at all

But yeah it's a pretty dumb comment, will erase a lot of the sympathy Ukip have received over the foster parents thing

Niall 27-11-2012 07:01 PM

Although what he said is more than awful, I'm glad that it's been exposed. UKIP getting any power in this country is an appalling thing. They're nothing but a backwards and destructive lot.

I think it's also disgusting that he's suggested that gay celebrities coming out of the woodwork is nothing more than a fashion. Nothing makes my blood boil more than when someone suggests being gay is a matter of choice or lifestyle.

Livia 27-11-2012 07:10 PM

I'm no supporter of UKIP, but a lot of their policies are what people have been screaming for... no cuts to front line police, scrap tuition fees and reintroduce the student grant, raise pensions... unfortunately some of their other policies are archaic and bigoted. That said, I'm sure that the comments made by the idiot referred to in the original post won't be appearing in the UKIP manifesto anytime soon.

Raph 27-11-2012 07:24 PM

What a twat :bored:

Nedusa 27-11-2012 08:17 PM

I think the Child abuse that is mentioned in the opening post refers to the years of playground abuse name calling and bullying the poor unsuspecting child will have to endure after he or she inadvertently lets it slip that he/she has two daddies and no mummy and that his/her two daddies sleep together in a big bed.

Children can be particularly cruel....!!!!

Kizzy 27-11-2012 11:17 PM

I cannot believe there is support for this behaviour....
Are we not living in an elightened age where intolerance is frowned upon?
I worry, we appear to be stuck firmly in reverse here ...If we allow the dark ages of forbidden love and dirty family secrets to be the way to live for same sex couples!
Children up and down the UK are crying out for loving families, how draconian to suggest that cannot nurture or provide the stability and guidence kids need!
I do not find it 'lazy' to compare them to the BNP either, this kind of influence that demonises people because of their sexual preference, is not a million miles from their views of foreigners to me.
What is happening to equality?
Has anyone actually asked the children in these cases their view?
No... It seems it is the blinkered, new right attitudes that in my opinion have no place in modern day society.

Shaun 27-11-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5652812)
I think the Child abuse that is mentioned in the opening post refers to the years of playground abuse name calling and bullying the poor unsuspecting child will have to endure after he or she inadvertently lets it slip that he/she has two daddies and no mummy and that his/her two daddies sleep together in a big bed.

Children can be particularly cruel....!!!!

children can taunt each other over mobile phone brands, I don't think we should ban them because of it. Thankfully most outgrow such childish behaviour.

Tom4784 27-11-2012 11:25 PM

The words of moronic bigots mean very little to me.

Gender and sexuality doesn't matter when it comes to good parenting, I bet most children in the system just want a loving home and wouldn't care if their parents were gay or not. A good home is a good home and they are in short supply these days so there's no point in limiting them even further.

MTVN 27-11-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5652812)
I think the Child abuse that is mentioned in the opening post refers to the years of playground abuse name calling and bullying the poor unsuspecting child will have to endure after he or she inadvertently lets it slip that he/she has two daddies and no mummy and that his/her two daddies sleep together in a big bed.

Children can be particularly cruel....!!!!

That's not what it's referring to, from the article:

Quote:

‘To say to a child, “I am having you adopted by two men who kiss regularly but don’t worry about it” – that is abuse.

‘It is a violation of a child’s human rights because that child has no opportunity to grow up under normal circumstances’ he told Metro

Jack_ 27-11-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5652812)
I think the Child abuse that is mentioned in the opening post refers to the years of playground abuse name calling and bullying the poor unsuspecting child will have to endure after he or she inadvertently lets it slip that he/she has two daddies and no mummy and that his/her two daddies sleep together in a big bed.

Children can be particularly cruel....!!!!

Oh yeah sure, let's just prevent gay couples from adopting then for the reasons you suggested and continue to portray the message that it is indeed wrong to children. Have you ever thought that perhaps by putting the wheels in motion for reform you might in time end up where something is regarded as normal? If there's more of it, it's less 'deviant' and is less susceptible to questioning and indeed abuse. But nah...***** it, let's just pander to the problem.

Quote:

“I am having you adopted by two men who kiss regularly but don’t worry about it”
That just makes me cringe. Not the fact that it's homophobic, just because it's such a cringeworthy thing to say. 'Two men who kiss regularly'...who the hell talks like that?

Kizzy 27-11-2012 11:41 PM

A basic human right should be a loving home.
are we not seeking to eradicate, racism, sexism and religious intolerance?
The best way to do this is to teach children that to coexist is the norm.
To reaffirm negative attitudes and stereotypes that same sex relationships are 'unnatural' is to me against their human rights...
The right to formulate their own opinions

Benjamin 28-11-2012 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5652812)
I think the Child abuse that is mentioned in the opening post refers to the years of playground abuse name calling and bullying the poor unsuspecting child will have to endure after he or she inadvertently lets it slip that he/she has two daddies and no mummy and that his/her two daddies sleep together in a big bed.

Children can be particularly cruel....!!!!

Children can be cruel, but that cannot be labelled child abuse from letting homosexuals adopt.

Mystic Mock 28-11-2012 01:28 AM

When you think that there's a party out there that's good enough to defeat the bloated top 3, they come out with some of the biggest trash that anyone could read.

Come on Green Party for me now.

Mystic Mock 28-11-2012 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukturtle (Post 5653406)
Children can be cruel, but that cannot be labelled child abuse from letting homosexuals adopt.

I agree, they will just be encouraging the children to mock otherwise.

the truth 28-11-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie585 (Post 5652367)
Haha, He also looks like a complete *****

verbal abusers are hypcrites:nono:

the truth 28-11-2012 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653382)
A basic human right should be a loving home.
are we not seeking to eradicate, racism, sexism and religious intolerance?
The best way to do this is to teach children that to coexist is the norm.
To reaffirm negative attitudes and stereotypes that same sex relationships are 'unnatural' is to me against their human rights...
The right to formulate their own opinions

Isnt he allowed an opinion on the matter?

Kizzy 28-11-2012 06:58 AM

Once again you hijack a thread and manipulate it to suit your own agenda....
In my post the intention of using the word 'equality' was deliberate. It shows how I feel, that the rights of couples to adopt should not be called into question before, during or after the adoption procedure.
This individual is entitled to his personal opinion... however, when those opinions become a political ideology then it becomes a problem.
The decision to remove these children from the supporters of UKIP was wrong, as you say they are entitled as individuals to believe whatever they like.
It's when whole parties unite to marginalize certain groups that you have a real problem with equality....

SharkAttack 28-11-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 5653362)
The words of moronic bigots mean very little to me.

Gender and sexuality doesn't matter when it comes to good parenting, I bet most children in the system just want a loving home and wouldn't care if their parents were gay or not. A good home is a good home and they are in short supply these days so there's no point in limiting them even further.

All of this. And I do suppose it's where you're from, with the bullying, in reference to Nedusa. There's an older generation of bigotry that will slowly wilt and go away forever as that kind of thinking becomes diluted with each passing decade. Can't come soon enough.

the truth 28-11-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653747)
Once again you hijack a thread and manipulate it to suit your own agenda....
In my post the intention of using the word 'equality' was deliberate. It shows how I feel, that the rights of couples to adopt should not be called into question before, during or after the adoption procedure.
This individual is entitled to his personal opinion... however, when those opinions become a political ideology then it becomes a problem.
The decision to remove these children from the supporters of UKIP was wrong, as you say they are entitled as individuals to believe whatever they like.
It's when whole parties unite to marginalize certain groups that you have a real problem with equality....

Thanks for the personal attack I shall duly report it
This is just 1 man , how can 1 man be an entire party?
The labour council abuse on UKIP and the foster family is profoudnly more disturbing, its a complete disgrace and they would be well advised to sue the council.

Niamh. 28-11-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653834)
Two wrongs do not make a right. To redress the so called balance, by discriminating against the alleged oppressor is plain wrong. besides its the wrong target to start with. White men havent ruled the world, rich people have. As for discrimiantion, Ive read posters on here printing drivel like white men should burn etc I would also add what whiite men and women did hundreds of years ago is not the responsibility of todays white men and women. the law should be equally applied.

Who is discriminating against white straight men here? Please stick to the topic and do not derail this thread.

the truth 28-11-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 5653861)
Who is discriminating against white straight men here? Please stick to the topic and do not derail this thread.

I hope you preach this to the other posters on this thread too, the ones who you may agree with too

Niamh. 28-11-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653866)
I hope you preach this to the other posters on this thread too, the ones who you may agree with too

Nobody else is derailing this thread. That's the end of it please don't reply to me.

the truth 28-11-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5653340)
I cannot believe there is support for this behaviour....
Are we not living in an elightened age where intolerance is frowned upon?
I worry, we appear to be stuck firmly in reverse here ...If we allow the dark ages of forbidden love and dirty family secrets to be the way to live for same sex couples!
Children up and down the UK are crying out for loving families, how draconian to suggest that cannot nurture or provide the stability and guidence kids need!
I do not find it 'lazy' to compare them to the BNP either, this kind of influence that demonises people because of their sexual preference, is not a million miles from their views of foreigners to me.
What is happening to equality?
Has anyone actually asked the children in these cases their view?
No... It seems it is the blinkered, new right attitudes that in my opinion have no place in modern day society.

Kizzy brought up the issues of equality which is why we got sidetracked

Jake. 28-11-2012 10:49 AM

The whole thread is to do with issues of equality funnily enough

Niamh. 28-11-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5653879)
Kizzy brought up the issues of equality which is why we got sidetracked

Kizzy brought up the issue of equality for gay couples because it applies to the subject of this thread. You then started your usual derailing by going on about how hard straight white men have it -which is NOTHING to do with this thread- I'm through arguing here with you about it. Please stop it.


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