Are white men discriminated against?
 

There is no equality there is only an attempt at equal opportunity...the word equality means nothing....2 equals 2 and thats about it....everyone is different, so what is equality meant to mean? The only group we are all allowed to abuse and streotype is white htrosexual men. This is because the liberal left have allowed themselves to be taken over by the militant left, who do not allow freedom of speech and try to outlaw all opinions that disagree or question theirs. This leads to foster families being destroyed because the parents vote for UKIP. the liberal left have become a bunch of radical biased hypocrites, this is why the far right and the mainstream are now so angry and polarised. Its the fault of both the militant left and the bigotted right.
Thw words Ive heard people call Christians, white hetrosexuals on here are disgusting. yet because this is a liberal majority they get away with it, but they wouldnt in the real world.

Can you please give some examples of all these nasty things people have been calling christians on this forum, please?

As a white, heterosexual (that's right ladies.....hop on), male, I can honestly say that we have been the privileged group for most of recorded history. It's about time that the balance has been redressed, somewhat. So now we have white males across the world claiming they are now victims of racism.

Two wrongs do not make a right. To redress the so called balance, by discriminating against the alleged oppressor is plain wrong. besides its the wrong target to start with. White men havent ruled the world, rich people have. As for discrimiantion, Ive read posters on here printing drivel like white men should burn etc I would also add what whiite men and women did hundreds of years ago is not the responsibility of todays white men and women. the law should be equally applied.

What on earth?

You throw a lot of absurd accusations around. Maybe you should find these quotes that you claim exist, yet no one else seems to have seen. It's not about 2 wrongs making a right, it's about eeking some of the power out of the hands of white men, to help lift up the rest of the world. For one who believes in Christ, you really do seem angry all the time.

White men still hold the power today. Look at any statistics on work forces / ceo's / people in power etc. Overwhelmingly it's old, white men that dominate proceedings.

Rubbish. what a dangerously oversimplified racist rewriting of 1000s of years of human history. for starters China is now probably the richest nation on earth, do you measure them all as white males? As for seeking the power out of white mens hands, a term I find racist, if you want to do it , do it legitimately not by allowing discrimination against the white man. The fact is the british built an empire due to their control of the seas and the ruthlessness of their monarchy. Its not a matter of skin colour or sexuality, its simply a matter of greed and competitive advantage. Im not remotely angry but thanks for pretending to care.

how relevant is all this to allowing a man to have an opinion of gay adoption? youre off talking about how you want to take the world back from the white man? and Im being lectured for side tracking? what a joke

Yet again, I'll ask you to explain your soundbytes. No one is discriminating against white people. It's the perception of white people who now have to compete in a global workplace, devoid of special privileges. I also said "eeking" rather than "seeking", but hey ho, I can let that slip. The USA is still the largest economy today, and will stay that way till about 2016ish.

Here's an example of what I mean, and I'll use the USA as an example.

They have just held an election for president, and throughout that time, you had rich republicans trying to suppress the vote in black areas of the country through the introduction of new voting laws, and the reduction in time allowed for voting. Why? Because black people would never vote for the extremely right wing republicans. White people are still racist, they're just cleverer about displaying it.

Watch Fox news for an hour, and see all the stereotypical code words used about black people.

a lot of serious men talk going on here!
my world is simple leave me alone and i will leave you alone,
fcuk with me and i will do you serious damage!

so all white men are racist and all other people are not, because of fox news, which is a news network I utterly detest and I personaly supported Obama 100% all the way? so where does all that leave your streotyped view of me and all white men?

I didn't say all white men are racist, did I? I am a white man, too. I also didn't say it was because of fox news. People hold their own racist views without a conservative news channel being required. My argument remains strong and valid.

White men are pretty obviously the least discriminated group in this country

No it does it, its shallow and biased and doesnt hold to any scrutiny. Do you even know why britain ruled the waves?

Seriously? You want to do history?

I'd say the enslavement of others, and the rape of resources was a fairly prevalent factor. I take no pride from our past as an empire.

I would say its white women who are the least discriminated against. Theres so many laws and law suits now, a woman can say virtually anything she likes to a man in this country and get away with it. The opposite is not the case. men lose their jobs their careers sometimes their families, often as a result of a biased culture that sees male humour as purely mysoginist and female humour as harmless fun. the bias is not just cultural , its enshrined in our institutions too. positive discrimination has meant men are forced to give up parliamentary seats and be outlawed from fighting to keep their seat? totally anti-democratic.

I would also add men, lose 90% of divorces, over 80% of custody cases and in over 70% they lose their homes. over 50% of homes are broken and the children often have no male role model, at home nor at school where less than 10% of primary teachers are men.......men on average work longer, yet women have far greater spending power....a factor totally ignored by the militant feminist driven mainstream media.....finally women retire at the same age, whereas for decades theyve been allowed the luxury of getting tjeir pension 5 years earlier? yet now theyve made it equal feminists still complain....In fact they should retire later as they live years longer....women have over 200 times as many outlets to help them in all areas of their lives (include cancer, health advice, shelters, advice lines etc). men die younger in every nation on earth and commit sucide at 3 to 4 times the rate in every country on earth....

so if you consider it trivial and justified rebalancing of society to see men, losing your children, your home, your worldy goods,having no right even to an opinion about aborting your unborn child, or abusing him/her with smoke and drugs, also being banned from running for parliament because youre male, killing yourself, getting no support and dying young. you call that a mans world?

Neither do I. we actually agree on that. You dont think there was any enslavement and rape of resources in non white countries too?

True.


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Well we "owned" about a fifth of the world in our peak, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Why?

There is not a lot to debate on the site, so any opportunity should be left open.

I asked you a simple question, which you ducked.

I didn't. I just don't get what you're trying to make. Ours wasn't the only Western empire, so of course non-white countries were abused. That's not even up for debate. How far do you want to go back in history?

why

because its just you 2 poster fighting.

A very wise philosophy Sheriff.

Hardly fighting, Arista. It's in serious news debates, so we're seriously debating.

To be quite honest, a thread like this is long overdue. Maybe now people can discuss other issues without the topic always being somehow brought round to how badly white men are treated by society.

History aside for a moment, in The UK today there is not in my opinion discrimination towards white males.
There is however a case for positive discrimination in the workplace for ethnic minority groups, LGBT groups, women and disabled individuals.
Companies are now encouraged to, via equal opportunities, to be more represented by minority groups.
This could be seen as discrimination, it is however making sure the workforce in the UK is more representative in society.
I fail to see how women are seen to come out as benefitting more than men, almost 40 years after the Equal Pay Act it's still to be implamented in most sectors......

Thats because you have simply ignored all of the information that counters your opinion here. There are an infinite number of examples where women are allowed carte blanche to say anything they like about men and get away with it, whether its a sick joke or deemining or even a false accusation...men on the other hand say one say about a female lineswoman and they lose their career and their family home. thats just 1 tiny example. the major examples are in the male suicides, broken homes, the failure to educate boys, the lack of support systems for men compared to women, the loss of their homes and families and life savings in the vast majority of divorce caes, the fact men die so much younger worldwide etc Id suggest if you want any credibility you seriously consider these issues affecting men

As for your other points. Women have hijacked the positive discrimination and the assistance for minoroties from disabled people. The percentage of disabled people in work is still miniscule. disabled access is still lacking too in vast numbers of places.
I know all about disabled adaptions to vehicles as i take wheelchair bound customers in my buses etc The charge for these people is a national disgrace. webbing alone to clamp down wheelchairs properly can run to £1500 then electric tail lifts instaled can run to £3000 thats just the start. its a massive racket. I have enormous sympathy for these disabled people, they are a real true minority who not only suffer real discrimination unlike the make believe stuff many of these women complain about. they receive verbal and physical bullying and suffer emotional and physical problems plus financial difficulties as they often cant find work. they truly have a huge cross to bare

I ignored nothing...I gave my opinion on this topic is all.
If you don't like it that is your issue not mine.
I do not agree women are allowed to ride roughshod over men as you seem to be implying, and I would have said boys have exactly the same rights to education as girls.
It is frustrating that there are fewer job opportunities for the disabled, maybe if Mr Cameron had not scaled down remploy and the ATOS assement

It still can happen though.

You discriminate against women, and portray us all as evil, backstabbing people :rolleyes:
White men are not discriminated against, well they can be but i have not seen many cases of it

Black people were an opressed minority for years (and in some ways still are) and white people have by far been the most privileged and the race that have discriminated the most, not the other way around. Now come a few decades down the line, when there's more hope for minority groups, and you're all up in open arms.

Give me a break. :bored:

Well, you're right, it can ... but white men are the most racist, sexist group of people on the planet. I'm not saying that all white men are like that - I'm sure that the vast majority aren't, certainly here - but I see no reason for white people to moan about being discriminated against when they do most of it.

Don't men on average get paid more than women for the exact same job? sometimes by over £10,000 a year? I saw that on the news or something

The_Truth will probably reply saying no thats false, and women get paid more for being sluts and showing their bodies to employers, he's such a woman hater, his threads all end the same..

Skin colour and discrimination of any sort really should not be an issue with people at all, especially in this day and age when you expect people to have moved forward from such stuff, and it is sad that it still is an issue with some.

I agree with this, I'm just saying though that alot of ethnic criminals can have it in for white people in general, especially the women more than anything though so I do think The Truth's argument is a bit invalid but I do see where his coming from that not all white men are racists pigs.

Right... Is this thread about sexism or racism?... :confused:

Lies.