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arista 23-12-2012 05:48 PM

India Rape Protests a Barbaric Nation
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1029215/in...rter-shot-dead


Young India Girls raped so much
India what a Barbaric Nation.

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"Outrage over Indian police chief suggestion that women should carry chilli powder and not go out at night to avoid rape"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Fu0egeAy

Me. I Am Salman 23-12-2012 06:23 PM

Rape happens all around the world you dick

Jesus. 23-12-2012 06:34 PM

I don't know the details of this story, but I'd guess it's probably something to do with the caste system. I bet it leaves a lot of men unable to find a woman because of this, so the frustration builds up.

arista 28-12-2012 05:18 PM

Gang-Rape In India: Teen Victim Kills Herself

http://news.sky.com/story/1030759/ga...-kills-herself

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Marcus. 28-12-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5713761)

rip girl

Shaun 28-12-2012 05:29 PM

Barbaric nation? Rape happens everywhere, dear.

Kizzy 28-12-2012 05:36 PM

Yes shaun we know this, however the autorities are guilty of barbaric response to the rape of women. The death of a police officer following protests shows that the public may wish laws to change to protect women.

Marcus. 28-12-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5713773)
Yes shaun we know this, however the autorities are guilty of barbaric response to the rape of women. The death of a police officer following protests shows that the public may wish laws to change to protect women.

this

arista 28-12-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Turboman (Post 5713771)
Barbaric nation? Rape happens everywhere, dear.


sure but in India its to much.
And One Girl just killed herself

Mystic Mock 28-12-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5713773)
Yes shaun we know this, however the autorities are guilty of barbaric response to the rape of women. The death of a police officer following protests shows that the public may wish laws to change to protect women.

I agree.

Kazanne 28-12-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas (Post 5713773)
Yes shaun we know this, however the autorities are guilty of barbaric response to the rape of women. The death of a police officer following protests shows that the public may wish laws to change to protect women.

very true Kizzy

MTVN 28-12-2012 05:45 PM

Those attitudes are hardly unique to "barbaric" countries though, there's been controversy here after leading figures have said women shouldn't dress so skimpily if they didn't want to be raped, remember the slutwalk protests?

I'm sure there might be a problem with the attitudes to women among some figures if authority in India, but that doesn't mean we should take this orientalist view of India as a "barbaric" and savage nation as opposed to us civilised westerners for whom things like this aren't a problem

Shaun 28-12-2012 05:48 PM

Corruption in the criminal system and cover-ups when it comes to rape? Yeah there's been nothing like that exposed this year in the UK.

Mystic Mock 28-12-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5713780)
Those attitudes are hardly unique to "barbaric" countries though, there's been controversy here after leading figures have said women shouldn't dress so skimpily if they didn't want to be raped, remember the slutwalk protests?

I'm sure there might be a problem with the attitudes to women among some figures if authority in India, but that doesn't mean we should take this orientalist view of India as a "barbaric" and savage nation as opposed to us civilised westerners for whom things like this aren't a problem

I always find it shocking when people say that, after all women can do whatever they want, and rapists like to use it as an excuse so they get people calling the woman a *****, it's disgraceful.

And I agree that we're no better than India for rape, in fact I think it's more dangerous for a woman in the UK when it's night time as the freaks come out, but the Indian Governments need to take rape more seriously.

Livia 28-12-2012 05:55 PM

You cannot equate stuff that happens in the UK to stuff that happens in India. Anyone who's ever spent any time in India will tell you that. Firstly there's the caste system, which makes the good old British class system look like a workers' collective. The there's the fact that in the poorest, less developed parts of India women are very much second class citizens and the property of men.

The woman in the first story was gang raped on a bus then had an iron bar pushed so far up inside her that it caused massive internal injuries so severe she has been reported as "fighting for her life". In this country there would have been a bloody outcry. In India, Police are still trying to get rape victims to drop charges.

Kizzy 28-12-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5713780)
Those attitudes are hardly unique to "barbaric" countries though, there's been controversy here after leading figures have said women shouldn't dress so skimpily if they didn't want to be raped, remember the slutwalk protests?

I'm sure there might be a problem with the attitudes to women among some figures if authority in India, but that doesn't mean we should take this orientalist view of India as a "barbaric" and savage nation as opposed to us civilised westerners for whom things like this aren't a problem

There was an outcry over the comments of an individual yes, it was not a general consensus of the establishment.
slutwalk went far and wide, which is why we now see the violence erupting over the attitudes towards sexual violence.
For the citizens of a developing country it is entirely understandable they would rally against these barbaric responses.
Mine is not a western view but a humanist one.

arista 28-12-2012 06:10 PM

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MTVN 28-12-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5713796)
You cannot equate stuff that happens in the UK to stuff that happens in India. Anyone who's ever spent any time in India will tell you that. Firstly there's the caste system, which makes the good old British class system look like a workers' collective. The there's the fact that in the poorest, less developed parts of India women are very much second class citizens and the property of men.

The woman in the first story was gang raped on a bus then had an iron bar pushed so far up inside her that it caused massive internal injuries so severe she has been reported as "fighting for her life". In this country there would have been a bloody outcry. In India, Police are still trying to get rape victims to drop charges.

Don't violent protests which have led to one police officer dead not amount to an outcry?

Livia 28-12-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King Moonracer (Post 5713835)
Don't violent protests which have led to one police officer dead not amount to an outcry?

Yes... it does. And despite that, as I said earlier, still the Indian police are trying to convince rape victims to drop the charges.

Nedusa 28-12-2012 10:07 PM

This story stinks , I don't care if this offence happened in India , Rape is rape is rape . Because it happened in a poor underdeveloped country with a strange caste system doesn't make it any less of a crime.

And the Indian Policemen who are dragging their feet on this case should all be charged with perverting the course of justice and jailed accordingly. I'm sick of reading about stories where crimes are committed but the country is underdeveloped and the crime is not treated with the severity it deserves.

Me. I Am Salman 28-12-2012 10:09 PM

It's just been announced that the Indian woman who was gang-raped on a bus has died :(

Marcus. 28-12-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5714347)
It's just been announced that the Indian woman who was gang-raped on a bus has died :(

rip to her

Nedusa 29-12-2012 07:14 AM

This story just gets worse apparently the woman was coming home on a bus with a friend when she was attacked by up to 6 strangers and gang raped and viciously assaulted with iron bars being used in her genitals. The Indian Govt were so shocked by the national outrage that followed , they flew the woman out of the country to Singapore . The woman's injurious were too severe and she died yesterday.

This type of unprovoked rape is actually quite common in India and is condoned to a degree by the Indian authorities . This sickening episode will hopefully result in a change in the public conscience to stamp out this type of behaviour . And not before time...!!!

arista 29-12-2012 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5714737)
This story just gets worse apparently the woman was coming home on a bus with a friend when she was attacked by up to 6 strangers and gang raped and viciously assaulted with iron bars being used in her genitals. The Indian Govt were so shocked by the national outrage that followed , they flew the woman out of the country to Singapore . The woman's injurious were too severe and she died yesterday.

This type of unprovoked rape is actually quite common in India and is condoned to a degree by the Indian authorities . This sickening episode will hopefully result in a change in the public conscience to stamp out this type of behaviour . And not before time...!!!

Yes a Barbaric Nation

SharkAttack 29-12-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5714737)
This story just gets worse apparently the woman was coming home on a bus with a friend when she was attacked by up to 6 strangers and gang raped and viciously assaulted with iron bars being used in her genitals. The Indian Govt were so shocked by the national outrage that followed , they flew the woman out of the country to Singapore . The woman's injurious were too severe and she died yesterday.

This type of unprovoked rape is actually quite common in India and is condoned to a degree by the Indian authorities . This sickening episode will hopefully result in a change in the public conscience to stamp out this type of behaviour . And not before time...!!!

Agreed. And the posters Arista has shown, with the English dialogue, as most foreign nations tend to do when they no longer respect their current government (or getting a message through to the English speaking democracies of the world...) Really, it's almost impossible to read a news article and not be physically ill. Been feeling way too ill these days. http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/p...tial/angry.gif

Jesus. 29-12-2012 08:35 AM

According to statistics, 400,000 women each year are sexually assaulted in the UK.

We are a barbaric nation too.

AnnieK 29-12-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5714744)
According to statistics, 400,000 women each year are sexually assaulted in the UK.

We are a barbaric nation too.

There are barbaric people in all nations. This was a horrific crime BUT similar things happen here too.

Kazanne 29-12-2012 10:34 AM

Seems she was with her boyfriend who was also stripped and thrown off the bus,and that poor girl must have suffered terribly,may she RIP
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/bus-rap...-murder-charge

Kizzy 29-12-2012 10:37 AM

Let's put this in perspective, it takes a certain type of person to commit rape.. let alone a serious sexual assault that I find it difficult to contemplate any human would inflict on another.
There were 6 men willing to subject a young stranger innocently travelling on the same bus to that...
So no, I don't think that we can just say abuse against women is worldwide.
Shark attack made an excellent point, the protesters may have been appealing to the western world with the use of placards in English.
Let's hope the deaths of these women serve as a catalyst for social and legal reform in India.

arista 29-12-2012 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5714744)
According to statistics, 400,000 women each year are sexually assaulted in the UK.

We are a barbaric nation too.

No we ain't as we Jail them.


India has corruption in the Police
so many get away with their Evil rapes

Kazanne 29-12-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5714783)
No we ain't as we Jail them.


India has corruption in the Police
so many get away with their Evil rapes

I agree Arista and although we all know it goes on all over,we at least know(or hope) that if that had happened in this country that the scum would have been given a hefty sentence,I do think we are too soft here,but I'de like to think unlike the Indian police our 'men' would have been outraged.

Jesus. 29-12-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5714783)
No we ain't as we Jail them.


India has corruption in the Police
so many get away with their Evil rapes

So the difference between barbarism and an enlightened society, is not the amount and level of violent crime against women, but whether or not the police are corrupt?

Have you been paying attention to this phone hacking scandal? Our police are corrupt too, just in different ways.

I wish I could find a path through to your common sense.

MTVN 29-12-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5714783)
No we ain't as we Jail them.


India has corruption in the Police
so many get away with their Evil rapes

Do we? Even in this country very few rape cases end in a conviction

arista 29-12-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5714823)
Do we? Even in this country very few rape cases end in a conviction

its better than India

AnnieK 29-12-2012 12:24 PM

I have been through a rape court case with a family member....she was warned all the way through that it was highly likely to NOT end in conviction even though when I arrived at her house the night in question she was bruised and bloodied and there was lots of physical evidence it wouldn't matter. The CPS don't allow many cases to get to court and the ones that do have high non conviction rates. The person was found not guilty due to irregularities in the attending police officers notes....it was a disgrace. I saw a once vibrant girl reduced to a mere shadow of her former self, pushed to drinking and depression because of the justice system in THIS country. I feel terribly for the girl in this story but KNOW there are some sick sexual predators in this country too.

Jesus. 29-12-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 5714836)
its better than India

That's not how you measure the humanity of our own society.

Kizzy 29-12-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5714819)
So the difference between barbarism and an enlightened society, is not the amount and level of violent crime against women, but whether or not the police are corrupt?

Have you been paying attention to this phone hacking scandal? Our police are corrupt too, just in different ways.

I wish I could find a path through to your common sense.

I can't speak for arista but yes, I would suggest that it is not the amount or level of violent crime that separates barbarism and a civilized society, but the laws and repercussions for those who commit these acts that those who make the laws have deemed indictable offences.
Indians want an ordered society, expecting women to marry their attackers to retain their honour is not the way to accomplish this.

I too have been involved in rape trials both as a witness and a jury member, the victim in both cases was treated sensitively and respectfully.
The women of India deserve that too.

Kazanne 29-12-2012 01:10 PM

This is not just a 'rape' case it is now murder,the girl probably would have survived had they not inserted the iron bar and ripped her insides,and beat her,I think this is what makes this case so horrible,it IS barbaric and should not be tolerated anywhere and I am sure it would not have been here.

arista 29-12-2012 04:02 PM

6 Evil Men
a Barbaric Nation

[Six accused of murder as victim of horrific Indian gang rape
dies 'peacefully' in Singapore hospital after
suffering heart-attack and organ failure]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2GSeOGVQT

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Marcus. 29-12-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5715096)
6 Evil Men
a Barbaric Nation

[Six accused of murder as victim of horrific Indian gang rape
dies 'peacefully' in Singapore hospital after
suffering heart-attack and organ failure]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2GSeOGVQT

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...41_634x739.jpg

the need to have what coming to them


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