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arista 16-03-2013 04:13 PM

Cyprus to get a Euro Bailout worth €10billion (£8.6billion) to stave off bankruptcy.
 
But UK Army in Cyprus
can not get into their accounts
to stop the tax take out.

Some Banks are frozen
so locals are Angry

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...P_2511537b.jpg


Any account with over €100,000
now pays a Higher Tax. (around 10% will be taken out)
They have a Bank holiday there on Monday
so by Tuesday it could be Fisty Cufffs at banks
Russians have to move their money fast
or they pay the hight Tax.

"Savers to take a hit on their deposits
as Cypus becomes fifth country to receive eurozone bailout"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/new...#ixzz2NivHmsG6

http://news.sky.com/story/1065567/cy...ney-in-eu-deal
Video report


Life In The Fast Lane

arista 17-03-2013 09:08 AM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...61_306x423.jpg
Furious: Shirley Brooks, 61, who is originally from Manchester,
said she stands to lose €18,600 of her retirement money

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2Nn39KyI0



Thats a shock for her.




Osborne will compensate
UK Military based in Cyprus
he said this morning.

lostalex 17-03-2013 09:55 AM

Now you know how we feel when we have to bail out New Orleans or Detroit.

If you make an agreement to be part of a "union" then you've gotta be united. You can't complain just because part of the union isn't doing so well, you've gotta suck it up and fulfill your responsibilities.

waterhog 17-03-2013 10:03 AM

i predict Cyprus riots
 
i predict riots in Cyprus 17.03.13

a plan was launched,
but it did fail,
how many times is it,
have we given Cyprus bail.
is it just the Greek side,
that there is this murk,
what about the north,
how bad is the Turk.
now measures that are rude,
it does boil down to theft,
there government has entered all bank accounts,
10% gone and 90% left.
you are pushing,
there is going to be a big Cyprus tear,
lots are going to pay the ultimate price,
none will escape like "Polly Peck's" Asil Nadir.

( maybe i am wrong, but i do understand you can only push people so far. ps i love how i ended with my poem and only if you google this mans name will you understand why he was untouchable. its all to do with north Cyprus and it not being recognized. yes i do no he has recently returned to the uk and is now serving time in HMP. Asil if you have a pc in your cell - please send me a VO, we have to talk business. )

Iceman 17-03-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5892448)
Now you know how we feel when we have to bail out New Orleans or Detroit.

If you make an agreement to be part of a "union" then you've gotta be united. You can't complain just because part of the union isn't doing so well, you've gotta suck it up and fulfill your responsibilities.

I always found it weird how Detroit turned into such a bad economy... they were one of the most prosperous cities and now they're practically hanging together.

Me. I Am Salman 17-03-2013 12:10 PM

they're interviewing the guy from stavros flatley on sky news :laugh2:

Roy Mars III 17-03-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 5892569)
I always found it weird how Detroit turned into such a bad economy... they were one of the most prosperous cities and now they're practically hanging together.

as racist as it sounds: the richer(mostly white) people left the city. They moved twenty miles or so away to Oakland County. it is now the 4th richest county in America(last time I heard)

Also the Detroit mayors and city council after been super corrupt for the past 50 years(Kwame). It's a mess. They just had to hire a finical manager it got so bad

compare it to Chicago. A similar city, but the more well off people stayed.

Iceman 17-03-2013 12:22 PM

Ah I see thanks, my knowledge ion it only comes from Eminem interviews about it and stuff, good to get an actual answer about it though.

lostalex 17-03-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 5892590)
as racist as it sounds: the richer(mostly white) people left the city. They moved twenty miles or so away to Oakland County. it is now the 4th richest county in America(last time I heard)

Also the Detroit mayors and city council after been super corrupt for the past 50 years(Kwame). It's a mess. They just had to hire a finical manager it got so bad

compare it to Chicago. A similar city, but the more well off people stayed.

You are exactly right.

It is easy for the rich of a city, to move to the suburbs, across county lines and therefore avoid city taxes.

I grew up in Northern Virginia, which is basically the same situation., All the well-off white people live in the suburbs in Northern Virginia, but they work in Washington DC, so DC doesn't get the tax dollars from those people. And DC has some of the most impoverished people in the nation. And also the worst schools. But just across county lines, there are some of the most wealthy people, with some of the best schools in the nation.

arista 17-03-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5892584)
they're interviewing the guy from stavros flatley on sky news :laugh2:


Yes he said the locals
will not get angry that the UK Army based there
get UK money help.


But on tuesday
after their holiday out there
it can turn into Fisty Cuffs at the banks

Vicky. 17-03-2013 01:49 PM

TBH its not really much different to our 'quantitive easing'...except its more upfront and honest than our 'system' is.

lostalex 17-03-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5892700)
Yes he said the locals
will not get angry that the UK Army based there
get UK money help.


But on tuesday
after their holiday out there
it can turn into Fisty Cuffs at the banks

lol

I'm not sure if you were being funny or artistic, but yea, it's a single word, fisticuffs.

arista 17-03-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5892703)
TBH its not really much different to our 'quantitive easing'...except its more upfront and honest than our 'system' is.


Yes but that manchester woman (now living there)
will lose so much money
that was for her later years.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...61_306x423.jpg
"Furious: Shirley Brooks, 61, who is originally
from Manchester, said she stands to
lose €18,600 of her retirement money"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2NoDlbCdj

lostalex 17-03-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5892708)
Yes but that manchester woman (now living there)
will lose so much money
that was for her later years.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...61_306x423.jpg
"Furious: Shirley Brooks, 61, who is originally
from Manchester, said she stands to
lose €18,600 of her retirement money"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2NoDlbCdj

she took a risk. Why is she living in Cyprus? Why are you giving her more attention than any other Cypriots? Just cause she's British?

The bad taste in hair style, glasses and dental hygiene certainly identifies her as british, but i don't think that means she deserves extra sympathy.

Vicky. 17-03-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5892708)
Yes but that manchester woman (now living there)
will lose so much money
that was for her later years.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...61_306x423.jpg
"Furious: Shirley Brooks, 61, who is originally
from Manchester, said she stands to
lose €18,600 of her retirement money"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2NoDlbCdj

If she hadnt moved to Cyprus and saved with our banks instead, she would still be worse off anyway most likely. She just probably wouldnt know about it as our countries way of ripping people off isnt quite as in your face as this.

lostalex 17-03-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5892715)
If she hadnt moved to Cyprus and saved with our banks instead, she would still be worse off anyway most likely. She just probably wouldnt know about it as our countries way of ripping people off isnt quite as in your face as this.

to be fair British banks arn't exactly safe bets eigther. Wasn't part of the BP oil spill scandal that British retirement funds were wrapped up in BP stock? So now when BP absolutely destroyed an ecosystem in the gulf of Mexico all those poor old pensioners were out a lot of money, and we're meant to feel bad for a giant oil company like BP, right?

arista 17-03-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5892712)
she took a risk. Why is she living in Cyprus? Why are you giving her more attention than any other Cypriots? Just cause she's British?

The bad taste in hair style, glasses and dental hygiene certainly identifies her as british, but i don't think that means she deserves extra sympathy.


She bought a Home
better than one in Manchester. England

Nothing wrong with that.

lostalex 17-03-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5892717)
She bought a Home
better than one in Manchester. England

Nothing wrong with that.

I agree there's nothing wrong with that, but she shouldn't come crying home to the UK when things go wrong. If you choose to move away, you shouldn't be coming home crying when things don't work out for you. If you choose to make your home in Cyprus then that is your home now. You can't just call yourself a Brit again when the going gets tough in yur new home over seas.

Vicky. 17-03-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5892716)
to be fair British banks arn't exactly safe bets eigther. Wasn't part of the BP oil spill scandal that British retirement funds were wrapped up in BP stock? So now when BP absolutely destroyed an ecosystem in the gulf of Mexico all those poor old pensioners were out a lot of money, and we're meant to feel bad for a giant oil company like BP, right?

I dont know about any of that :p

I do know though, that peoples savings are worth a LOT less now because of all this quantitive easing rubbish after our banks messed up. The pound is worth **** all now compared to years ago. Plus inflation coupled with very low interest rates mean your money doesnt go very far in the UK. Hence moving elsewhere.

It backfired for this woman, yeah. But she would probably have been in the same situation had she stayed here

arista 17-03-2013 02:40 PM

From SkyNewsHD Live out there
the reporter said the Parliament is split on this
if they do not go ahead with the 10% Cull
then the Massive EU loan will halt,
and Cyprus would then go like Greece.

joeysteele 17-03-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5892719)
I dont know about any of that :p

I do know though, that peoples savings are worth a LOT less now because of all this quantitive easing rubbish after our banks messed up. The pound is worth **** all now compared to years ago. Plus inflation coupled with very low interest rates mean your money doesnt go very far in the UK. Hence moving elsewhere.

It backfired for this woman, yeah. But she would probably have been in the same situation had she stayed here

You've made very valid points, she made that choice, now it's backfired it's no use looking for or expecting any major special treatment.
She likely also isn't that bothered as to those who are losing out bigtime here in the UK as you say.

Kizzy 18-03-2013 12:17 AM

Isn't this just glorified theft..dipping into peoples saving accounts?
If you work and pay tax on your salary, and save what you can from that, why is this then classed as free money?..

arista 18-03-2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 5893465)
Isn't this just glorified theft..dipping into peoples saving accounts?
If you work and pay tax on your salary, and save what you can from that, why is this then classed as free money?..


Yes many locals say that.
And nothing is going on tomorrow
as its a Holiday day.

So by Tuesday
Some may have weapons
for the banks

Iceman 18-03-2013 12:40 AM

Just reading up on Ireland's bailout progress because this thread reminded me....

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/e...licy-1.1320337

Didnt even hear about this when it first came out.....brilliant news for everyone if we get our exit done properly...

Kizzy 18-03-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 5893471)
Yes many locals say that.
And nothing is going on tomorrow
as its a Holiday day.

So by Tuesday
Some may have weapons
for the banks

I don't know how it can be legal...
Surely they must have known this would cause a run on the banks?

Shasown 18-03-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5892718)
I agree there's nothing wrong with that, but she shouldn't come crying home to the UK when things go wrong. If you choose to move away, you shouldn't be coming home crying when things don't work out for you. If you choose to make your home in Cyprus then that is your home now. You can't just call yourself a Brit again when the going gets tough in yur new home over seas.

Wow am impressed, you read a newspaper article and are aware of some important facts.

Has she come home?

Is she actually crying about it?

She hasnt turned in her passport, has she?

Did she call herself anything other than British? If she did what did she call herself?

She is British, she lives in Cyprus, she was asked for a quote by a newspaper and gave one, is all the information I can garner from that piece.

Got any links or proof for any of your assertions?

Or were you just assuming? Mr Fordsworthe's original quotation springs to mind.

TTCHCOTP

Kizzy 18-03-2013 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 5893519)
Wow am impressed, you read a newspaper article and are aware of some important facts.

Has she come home?

Is she actually crying about it?

She hasnt turned in her passport, has she?

Did she call herself anything other than British? If she did what did she call herself?

She is British, she lives in Cyprus, she was asked for a quote by a newspaper and gave one, is all the information I can garner from that piece.

Got any links or proof for any of your assertions?

Or were you just assuming? Mr Fordsworthe's original quotation springs to mind.

TTCHCOTP

Is that greek?...:laugh:

Nedusa 18-03-2013 07:31 AM

This is the last resort tactic of a Bankrupt Capitalist banking elite. They are using Cyprus as a test case to see how quickly people accept this or what level of public disorder it causes. There comes a point when direct and indirect taxation does not bring in enough money and the only way to balance the books is take money directly out of people's savings accounts. And this is across the board so everyone who has money in these types if accounts will suffer. But truly rich people won't suffer as their money is safely invested elsewhere.

This is theft on a grand scale and I hope ALL the people who stand to lose money over this cause massive public protests. I hope also that the majority of people with money saved in Cyprus collectively threaten to withdraw their assets which could cause a financial tidal wave in Cyprus and probably bankrupt the whole island.

This needs to happen because if Cypriots accept this then Greece, Spain and Portugal are next, this is the thin edge of the wedge and it could precipitate a financial collapse like the world has never seen, making the crash of 2008 look like a small financial irregularity...!!!

arista 18-03-2013 08:28 AM

"if Cypriots accept this then Greece, Spain and Portugal are next"


Yes thats could be the case.

The €uro Mess - never ends

Kizzy 18-03-2013 09:35 AM

The FSA here only guarantee the first £85'000 of anyones accounts so if our banks go under this will happen here.
Wonder if croatia are having second thoughts about joining the EU?...haha!

Scarlett. 18-03-2013 10:55 AM

Is this just the Southern Greek Cyprus we're talking about? It's quite annoying that news outlets only say "Cyprus", when there's two completely different sides of the island (Turkish and Greek)

arista 18-03-2013 04:40 PM

Its got Even Worse
now banks will not open until Thursday.

Fights will happen

Shasown 18-03-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 5893784)
Is this just the Southern Greek Cyprus we're talking about? It's quite annoying that news outlets only say "Cyprus", when there's two completely different sides of the island (Turkish and Greek)

Yeah the greek side of the island is regarded as the Republic of Cyprus, the Turkish side is not recognised, there is only Turkey who officially recognises the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

However the economic crisis is affecting life in the north as well.

arista 18-03-2013 10:35 PM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

Now what is Russia going to do?
They would not dare bomb germany


http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg

Cherie 19-03-2013 11:58 AM

This is pretty unbelievable really bankers are still getting huge bonuses, yet it is people who are prudent and have put away money for their retirement or just a rainy day who are being penalised, this money has already been taxed at source and then taxed again as a saver and to dip into savings without permission is unforgivable.

arista 19-03-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 5895257)
This is pretty unbelievable really bankers are still getting huge bonuses, yet it is people who are prudent and have put away money for their retirement or just a rainy day who are being penalised, this money has already been taxed at source and then taxed again as a saver and to dip into savings without permission is unforgivable.


Before this went Public
Russian banks took out Millions (they had top secret info)


As a result Germany is saying Cyprus Banks
may need to take 15% out
of all accounts over 100K.


And what is going wrong even more is the Power
has to pass this in their Parliament
but other members may block it.
Whick means No EU billions Loan
and a Bankrupt nation.

Ref: SkyNewsHD, Ch4News, CNN Business, BBC News.

Iceman 19-03-2013 03:07 PM

Cyprus' finance minister resigns.

1 million euro is being flown out by the RAF to military personnel.

Crowds are gathering outside as are riot police.

arista 19-03-2013 05:59 PM

Yes Bad news they blocked the Leader
so Tomorrow is his last roll of the Dice.


The RAF Plane has loads Armed officers
as the locals could do with that.


Cash Machines are being topped up
but how long can they keep topping it up with Cash?

On Ch4News Live
in 10minutes the machine was empty
thats how fast the public take it out.

The Germany Embassy has been attacked.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...a-620x372.jpeg

Iceman 19-03-2013 07:03 PM

The parliament has rejected it....gonna be a huge run on the banks come thursday

arista 19-03-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 5895894)
The parliament has rejected it....gonna be a huge run on the banks come thursday


Yes but Tomorrow The PM bangs heads together.

Germany will not back down
as Cyrprus failed to much.

Run on the bank - They may Not open on Thursday , now.


So its the Cash machines
but they run out in 10 or 20mins
as the public does not trust anyone.


This is far worse trouble that Ireland had


Ref: Ch4News , SkyNewsHD and Bloomberg


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