Gove Wants An End To Long School Holidays
 

http://news.sky.com/story/1079956/go...chool-holidays

when will this come in mp never give fing detail :bawling::bawling::bawling:

What an idiot of a man, times have changed it's not the Dark Ages anymore. He's acting if he's saving many future careers because of these special pearls of wisdom he has on education when infact he's full of ****.

Well Gove can suck a bollock

Can see the teachers really standing behind this :joker:

Not one of his better ideas.

Is there any part of the education system that this man does not wish to completely obliterate?

I mean I can understand his idea, but the I don't think the introduction of longer days and shorter holidays are going to help students. The 6 weeks at the end of the school year is a well needed break in my opinion. it allows you to have a nice breather in between the school years rather than a constant torrent of work which would inevitably just burn you out. Especially when you consider the insane amount of exam preparation lumped upon pupils in their final years during the ending of the school year. The stress that causes is more than enough cause for long breaks.

A lot of the time I feel as if Gove is making change for his own ideological sake rather than for the pupils. Everything he's tried to implement has been so archaic and idiotic. I can't stand him.

Gove is a twat. Mind I do think the 6 week holidays are too long.

And school days do seem shorter now than they used to be. When I was at school like 10 years ago..we did 9am - 3.30pm, with a 15 min break and 30 mins for lunch. The same school now does 9am - 3pm. with an hour for lunch and a 20 min break.

That said I dont think making the schoolday longer would improve peoples education anyway.

38 weeks a year 5 days a week plus after school clubs for parents who are at work........isnt that enough compulsory school for kids?

Is he intent on alienating himself from absolutely everyone? Only people who would be behind this would be parents, in a way

I was in school from 8am - 4pm.

I do agree that six weeks is too long.

The summer holidays here this year is only 28 school days. It's only a month.

The kids here have just had 2 full weeks off for Easter which I don't think is right.

yeah woo let's all work some more yay for work and the stress of it let's have more of it

The man is a ****ing moron

No chance of any teachers supporting this, my school talk about him as if he's the antichrist. Mind I do think the six weeks are too long and could at least be spread out a bit more. Gove seems intent on wrecking the education system, Osbourne is running the economy into the ground, Cameron is Thatcher Mk II, and they've still got the nerve to blame Labour for our problems. :mad:

I think he's got some good ideas, personally. As much as we love having long holidays as children, you do always end up going back having completely forgotten everything you learned the year before - if there were longer school days and shorter holidays, we'd get more work done and the stress of exams people mentioned probably wouldn't be as hard to deal with because the work would have been covered in much faster time. He makes a good point about how other countries are light years ahead of the UK in terms of education. The reason China is full of geniuses is because they put the hours in, not because they're genetically superior. British kids could be that smart too - the man's right, our education system IS based on an outdated, irrelevant way of life for most people. We're not an agricultural nation any more.

6 weeks is far too long,kids get bored and of course the teachers wont like it,we would all rather get paid for 6 weeks to do nothing! I also think 2 weeks at Easter is too much also.better kids at school than roaming the steets.

To be entirely honest, when I was at school, having a long weekend was just as good as getting a two week holiday, and I used to get bored towards the end of the summer holiday and kind of enjoyed going back to school just for some structure to my routine, even though by October I was ready for a two week holiday - you never REALLY need as long as they give you. In fact, I think if we had shorter holidays in education, we'd probably appreciate being able to take a fortnight off work for our one holiday of the year or whatever. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll never find out because you only grow up once, but I do think, in hindsight, I would have benefited from more school and less holidays.

Most people spend the majority of their lives working 9-5 (if not longer), 5 days a week, with only a couple of weeks holiday a year, I don't see the need to begrudge kids a few weeks and a decent part of the afternoon off to enjoy and make the most of their childhood

Yeah, but if you get rid of that system, kids aren't going to know any different once it's been scrapped - if you're at school from 9-5 in line with working hours, it probably benefits parents who have to go work and prepares children for the working world a whole lot better than going to school from 8.30-3.30 and having six/seven week long summer holidays that they're never going to have again in their lives.

Let us live a bit ffs

i agree with everything you said :worship:

..this isn't anything new and something that has been discussed for a long time..not that students will get less holiday time but for it to be split differently, with the maximum break from school being around 3/4 weeks..the possibility of two week half terms have been considered...also, a lot of schools already do the longer day thing in that they offer before and after school activities for children....

Two week half terms every time there is a term break and then 4 weeks holiday seems fair to me. I think it's better.

I know a family in Colorado and they have six weeks of school then two weeks holiday all year round. It sounds fun.

...yeah, they've been talking about this for a long time Caitlin but it's not really about taking away holiday, just dividing the terms differently..and for me, from a working point of view, I would prefer that as 6 weeks is quite a long time to be away from your routine..but also the longer day thing..?..that's been discussed as well and also put into practice in some schools but more to fit in with parents working and children have the option to either choose activities or sometimes have help with extra one to one or small group tuition..but that's completely optional...

he's right.

there should be more 2 weeks holidays put throughout the year rather than a longer break in the summer

England's schoolchildren should have shorter holidays and spend more time in the classroom, Michael Gove has declared.

The Education Secretary called for longer school days and term times, warning that the current system is out of date and fit for the agricultural economy of the 19th century.

Mr Gove said pupils are at a "significant handicap" compared to youngsters in East Asian nations, who benefit from extra tuition and support from teachers.


I don't think he is talking about reallocating the existing number of holidays, but actually taking some away or am I reading that wrong. Hopefully this will go the same way as his proposed re-introduction of O Levels...down the pan. I don't mind rejigging what we got, but I don't want to lose any.

I think the current system is OK , schoolchildren are already pushed to study far harder than I ever was, what with after school clubs, homework clubs, Saturday school, out of term tuition, pre exam tuition etc.. I think there are already enough demands on them without having to formally reduce the amount of out of term time they have.

Also teachers need this time to prepare lesson plans, study plans, exam practice etc... It's not as if the teachers are any less busy out of term time. I see no gain in forcing pupils to sit in classrooms for even longer.

If the govt is worried about the length of the summer break inasmuch as it allows large numbers of bored children to roam the streets then maybe summer camps like they have in the US could be the answer, two weeks away would be fine and it would give the parents a break as well....!!!

Hes also on about introducing (or has already introduced :suspect: ) 'performance related pay' for teachers. which I think is wildly unfair. It is not a teachers fault if they get a kids thats just unwilling to learn. And there are plenty of those around. If the school happens to be in a bad area, the teacher will get their pay docked through no fault of their own. They could be the best teacher in the world, but with a class with half the kids being ignorant twats...they are still going to fail.

Performance related pay for MPs sounds a better idea ;)

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The kids over here get even more time than that off, primary schools get the whole months of July and August off and secondary schools get all that plus most of June too. It is a long time and hard for parents to keep kids entertained sometimes but at the same time, they're kids let them have their time off, they'll be adults and working for long enough. Some of my best memories are from long childhood summers :love:

people in China go to school seven days a week for ten hours a day. This is why they are #1

I can't see the teachers giving up their three months+ of holidays every year, not without a fight.

Would be fun to see the unions fighting it though..trying to make out that shorter holidays will be detrimental to the childrens education :laugh:

I know! I just emailed my friend who's a primary teacher. She lives about 80 miles from me, and if I'm very, very quiet... I think I can hear her screaming.