Luke A: 'Big Brother's future is unknown'.
 

I'm watching Luke A's Web Stream - and he just said about the possibility of a 15th Series being unlikely because of financial purposes. :shocked:

Then he said he hopes another channel picks it up.

Well **** off doing two celebrity series a year then. There's no excuse to axe the original series.

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I work closely with Luke for my site you all know that and I respect that guy SO MUCH.

But what does he actually know about Channel 5's current finance situation and how long Big Brother will carry on for? If they still want CBB they have to carry on BB because they're packaged together.

I work closely with Luke for my site you all know that and I respect that guy SO MUCH.

But what does he actually know about Channel 5's current finance situation and how long Big Brother will carry on for? If they still want CBB they have to carry on BB because they're packaged together.

I just said to him about how they need to stop doing so many CBB series - and he completely agreed and said that he wishes they'd focus more on the original series because it's better.

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LOL and how would he know all of this anyway?

I personally love Luke A, he is a humble, friendly guy but I don't understand how he would know about C5's current financial situation when all he did was win the show. It's not like they reveal all their broadcasting statistics to the winner as part of the prize fund :joker:

Here's his live stream btw, if anyone wants to watch: http://twitcam.livestream.com/ern2d

If they dropped the civilian series, that's it. I'm out. There's no way I'd watch one, let alone two celebrity series a year without the original.

But why would he say that for if he didn't have some kind of info to go on? :(

Not that I'm dissing him, I love the guy - he's genuine.

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I don't know :S But isn't the show contracted until the end of 2014? So BB15 is practically guaranteed, unless they scrap it and do 3 CBBs a year :joker:

This. The normal BB is SO much better than the celebrity version :bored:

Channel 5 have signed the contract up until the end of 2014. I'm sure the contract will specifically state "One BB and two CBB's", not "Do whatever the frig you like"?

So technically it's BB16 that sits on the fence then yeah?

I would think so. As I say, the contract has definitely been signed up until the end of 2014.

BB16, ****ing hell :O

Channel 5 won't axe normal BB I have not Evan heard of any financial problems don't they have to do a normal BB and how does luke A know they have got financial problems

In the past few months Channel 5 has splashed cash on buying Brian Dowling out of his contract, completely revamping the house, and drastically increasing the amount of live feed on offer, so forgive me if I don't quite buy the thought of them having financial problems.

:laugh: I know, sounds weird doesn't it?

If we ever reach BB20 that would be ****ing cool

I mean, BB is performing well for Channel 5 at the moment, and it must be turning a profit.

With the amount of money they have spent this year, especially on the house itself, they must have faith in the show yet, so I can't see Channel 5 axing it anytime soon. I'm certain they will sign the contract for another 2 years to take them up to the end f 2017.

Having two CBB's a year tells you everything. If Channel 5 was having financial problems, I'm sure one of the CBB's would be axed before anything else. I'm sure they'd try other options, and I'm afraid one option isn't splashing the cash like they have done this year.

I wouldn't worry...

There hasn't exactly been any hints that the show is in financial trouble - loads of celebrities have come out saying that their fees were very substantial. BB16 is a long way off yet, plus Big Brother is one of the most successful shows in Channel 5's history - they'll find the money for it somehow.

Are we the only country that does CBB I think Australasia did it once and maybe Germany

And if channel 5 are having financial problems they will axe one of the CBB it cost for the the celebritys

He's talking through his arse, it's contracted for another already paid for series next year.

LOL that's so not true.

Why would they pay to fire Brian just to have Emma host one series? Not to mention the contract to show BB15 in 2014 has already been signed.

Can someone please show me this contract which stated the civilian series has to be broadcast?

Its the format that's been renewed.

That doesn't mean they have to put a civilian series on they could just run CBB.

I agree with other posters if the regular series stops i would actually turn off Channel 5 altogether.

Well obviously nobody has seen the contract :suspect:.

But wouldn't common sense dictate that this said contract would specifically state what must run during the year?

I highly doubt the contract is going to state the format has been renewed, so channel 5, do whatever the hell you like as long as we get three runs out of you?

I'm pretty sure the contract will specifically say that the normal BB series must run next year, along with two CBB's.

Luke A knows **** all..

No not really.

The contract probably just gives Channel 5 the rights to air the format.

Anyway like i said no one has seen the contract so my speculation is just as valid as yours and you and Luke A have the knowing "**** all" in common in regards to the situation.

Indeed. However one party (A la, Luke A) claims to know everything. The other party (A La, Me) doesn't claim to know everything. Big difference. I simply gave my opinion and my view.

Luke A said its unlikely not that its a fact its not returning.

You are talking as if civilian BB is returning 100% and that's backed up by common sense?

No you are both speculating.

Of course it's backed up by common sense.

1. The contract has been signed up until the end of 2014. Why would they just run 2 or 3 seasons of CBB in 2014? It just wouldn't happen, of course the civilian version is returning next year.

2. Channel 5 has just spent a shed load of money in buying Brian out of his contract, picking Emma up as the main host, getting two new presenters in, extending the live feed considerably. All of that will have cost the channel a buck load.

3. Why on earth would they flog a dead horse if they're thinking of scrapping the normal version after the current series?

Luke A seemingly thinks he has insider info on Channel 5's finances, which he clearly doesn't. They seem to have quite a bit of cash to throw at the normal version of Big Brother making his insider info quite redundant.

We all have our opinions, you may not think mine is backed up off common sense, but looking at the picture as a whole, I do.

But you don't know that for a fact lol.

That's your speculation.

Like you said you haven't seen the contract so your common sense has has absolutely no significance in relation to a contract drawn up by Endemol and Channel 5.

You have not seen it therefor cannot say 100% that its coming back.

Contracts are not as simple as you are making out.

Yes they have bought Brian out and redone the house but you seem to forget that the same house is used for CBB and the same presenters are also used so this is not just an investment in the normal BB look at the big picture, Why is it that Channel 5 don't promote the summer series yet promote the **** out of CBB?

Im purely speculating and you're actually talking as if you are in the know which is exactly what you're accusing Luke A of doing.

Can you say hypocrite?

Axe a bloody CBB then. Why focus on two CBBs? The summer CBB is never going to do too well at the back of a 10 week regular. Stop paying for 24 celebs every year!!

*Sigh*

No, of course I can't, I don't work for either company and I'm not their lawyer, contract's aren't public documents, they're entity to entity written agreements. If you don't even know that, is there any use me explaining how one works? The contract is for two years worth of series not calendar months, defined as one 9 week civillian series and two 3 week celebrity series, two years worth that Endemol has to make and Channel 5 have to pay for, broadcast or not, though, with BB being a franchise, there will undoubtedly be a use or loose clause as with trademarks, not that even C5 are stupid enough to pay for BB to be made, watch Endemol produce it, then not air it, especially when it fills 200 hours of air time, generates discussion and rates reliably (strong in several key demos).
It's really not as simple as that :laugh:. The format is Endemol's, C5 haven't leased it from them (they're a TV channel, not a production company), they're paying for the temporary right to air it, and for it to be aired it has to be produced, by or on behalf of it's rights holders and production company, the company the contract is with, Endemol, the contract defines how much and how often and for how long, in this case one civillian series and a celebrity series for the next two years.
It does and no they couldn't, because as I said, C5 have legally agreed to pay for and air one (and Endemol have legally agreed to be paid for and produce it for them).
It won't, not until the contract next expires at least. Which isn't till after BB15, the series Luke has, talking from his arse, expressed doubt about.

And im sure Endemol are hardly inundated with offers from any other channel.

Channel 5 is the only main terrestrial channel to give BB a home so I think Endemol will take what they can tbh.

Anyway as ive said no one knows 100% that BB15 will air so stop ramming it down everyones throats that its a fact when its just your speculation on what you think is going to happen.

Does CBB generally get higher ratings (taking spending ****-loads on "celebrities" into consideration,) than BB?

Yes. Ch5 ratings in order of them airing:

CBB8- 2.8m
BB12- 1.6m
CBB9- 2.6m
BB13- 1.7m
CBB10- 2.3m
CBB11- 2.8m

CBB11 had the highest final for any Ch5 series with 3.6m.

The winter series get a lot more for example CBB11 finale got 3.6 I think in comparison to BB13 getting 1.7.

Its yet to see if this summer series will rate better but CBB8 got 2.8 average and last summer CBB only got 2.3 so this one will be the decider.

Hmm, well CBB8 was their first series aired, so taking that into consideration.

I'd say their main point of profit is BB, partly because of how much they spend on celebrities, so if the worst comes to the worst they'd surely cut CBB instead of BB.

What has that got to with anything? Better offers or not, C5 are legally obliged to air a 15th series next year, whether they want to or not. A contract isn't a promise between mates, it's a legally binding agreement, they'd be breaking it and the law itself if they tried not to air one.
While the contract still exists and both companies are still operating, yes they do.