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Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:20 PM

Dan blaming Gina for Hazel being hated.
 
Day 43: Has Gina swayed the public's perception of Hazel?
1 hour ago

Last night Dan aired his concerns about how Gina and Dexter's treatment of Hazel during their time in the Safe House may have affected the public's perception. He reasoned that their decision to choose Hazel for the horrible tasks may have planted a seed in people's mind, especially as, in Dan's opinion, they are popular housemates.

Today Gina decided to challenge this view, feeling that it was unfair to say that she had any hand in tainting Hazel's reputation.

"The public have their own minds. And say if they loved Hazel and then me and Dexter were bitching about her, we could have been hated," she reasoned.

Dan was quick to defend his point of view, stating, "All I was saying is that maybe your thoughts were in the public's mind more because it was over a few days and it wasn't just one day Hazel got bad things to do".

Gina didn't seem too convinced. She argued that for tasks such as the stink bomb challenge, they were forced to choose the most glamorous housemate and unfortunately that was Hazel. She was firm in saying that any public backlash was of her own doing.

"Me and Dexter, we're just normal, average people in this world. We don't have that impact on other's people's decisions".

Not wanting to cause an argument, Dan replied, "I'm just trying to work out why the public dislike Hazel so much, that's all."

Neither party seem convinced with the other's argument, but for now they've decided to agree to disagree on this one.

Jemal 25-07-2013 03:21 PM

Seriously nessa. Dan can soar the **** off tommorow.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:21 PM

This is about Dexter and Gina being popular as opposed to Hazel being unpopular. Dan is losing his grasp on reality.

smeagol 25-07-2013 03:24 PM

you backing the twins now vanessa that sig is giving me the creeps lol

dan thinks to much it will be his downfall. so silly he cant be saved if he is going to keep going on and on and on like that

Jemal 25-07-2013 03:24 PM

He's deluded man. One day he jumps on Charlie. The next day its callum. Next day its dexter (even tho the word tragic was quite funny) and now hes questioning Ginas antics in the house. Its pisstake.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6210408)
you backing the twins now vanessa that sig is giving me the creeps lol

dan thinks to much it will be his downfall. so silly he cant be saved if he is going to keep going on and on and on like that

It's the twins reaction after they found out Dexter is not a snake. :joker::joker:

Niamh. 25-07-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210402)
This is about Dexter and Gina being popular as opposed to Hazel being unpopular. Dan is losing his grasp on reality.

Dan is just bored I would imagine and he's trying to exercise his brain lol, it is quite an interesting theory to be fair to him, it's not right but interesting none the less

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 6210417)
Dan is just bored I would imagine and he's trying to exercise his brain lol, it is quite an interesting theory to be fair to him, it's not right but interesting none the less

If he knew he was up for eviction he'd keep quiet. :laugh:

Ellen 25-07-2013 03:34 PM

Why is he blaming Gina? Does he not think that it could be Hazel herself who has turned the public off her?

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 6210449)
Why is he blaming Gina? Does he not think that it could be Hazel herself who has turned the public off her?

he's blaming both gina and dexter. has he forgotten about the whole daley thing ? :joker:

Spoon 25-07-2013 03:37 PM

It's admirable that Dan is loyal, but it's strategically idiotic to upset the HMs who the public clearly likes the most. Plus, Gina has been really nice to him. Why get her back up?

Suze 25-07-2013 03:37 PM

I have no time for Dan, what a pompous idiot he is.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 6210462)
It's admirable that Dan is loyal, but it's strategically idiotic to upset the HMs who the public clearly likes the most. Plus, Gina has been really nice to him. Why get her back up?

This won't go down well with Gina and Dexter fans. :laugh:

Braden 25-07-2013 03:38 PM

There is some truth in that, in my opinion.

Gina's obviously popular with the public. The majority of the public are impressionable and will obviously dislike Hazel even more if Gina does.

Niamh. 25-07-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 6210469)
There is some truth in that, in my opinion.

Gina's obviously popular with the public. The majority of the public are impressionable and will obviously dislike Hazel even more if she does.

It wouldn't have helped Hazels case for sure, but she was already hated before they went into the Safe House

mr rochester 25-07-2013 03:40 PM

This is VERY interesting. By saying this Dan is acknowledging that thoughts can be embedded into others (depending on how they are said). That being so, might it be a possibility that just before noms are due Dan goes around 'embedding thoughts' into other HM's for who to nominate?

Answers on a postcard...

Kizzy 25-07-2013 03:40 PM

If you think about it why on earth would dan blame hazel, she explained to him he assaulted her....
Stands to reason he would naturally think there must be another explanation other than we live in a society that condones that behaviour?

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 6210469)
There is some truth in that, in my opinion.

Gina's obviously popular with the public. The majority of the public are impressionable and will obviously dislike Hazel even more if Gina does.

hazel is hated because of the whole daley thing. If it wasn't for that she'd be more popular.

Ellen 25-07-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210454)
he's blaming both gina and dexter. has he forgotten about the whole daley thing ? :joker:

Yes and the fact she has been stirring since then.

Braden 25-07-2013 03:44 PM

Yeah I definitely agree with both of you (Vanessa & Niamh). The whole Daley situation didn't do her any favours.

But I don't think she would be as hated if it wasn't for Gina's blatant dislike for her.

Kris 25-07-2013 03:45 PM

No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 6210501)
Yes and the fact she has been stirring since then.

If Dan stays i think he'll be up again next week. :laugh:

Vanessa 25-07-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 6210503)
Yeah I definitely agree with both of you (Vanessa & Niamh). The whole Daley situation didn't do her any favours.

But I don't think she would be as hated if it wasn't for Gina's blatant dislike for her.

Maybe, but then Gina and Hazel have always disliked each other.

bez87 25-07-2013 03:48 PM

Well dan wouldn't know about her being 2faced or care because it's Dan she talks with about the other HMs lol Dan is deluded because he only see's that side it's crazy.

lily. 25-07-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210482)
hazel is hated because of the whole daley thing. If it wasn't for that she'd be more popular.

I agree. Before Daley assaulted her, the public was against Hazel. She was viewed as a home-wrecker. She broke the girl-code by openly flirting with someone who has a girlfriend, and female viewers do not like that.

After Daley assaulted her, some viewers were sympathetic. I feel bad for her for what happened to her in the safe house, however, I dislike her as a person, and that won't change just because something bad happened to her.

Benjamin 25-07-2013 03:51 PM

Hazel was quite liked until the Daley showmance, that is why she is hated, not because of what Gina and Dexter have said. Dan needs to watch himself or he will be leaving tomorrow for sure.

Benjamin 25-07-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden (Post 6210503)
Yeah I definitely agree with both of you (Vanessa & Niamh). The whole Daley situation didn't do her any favours.

But I don't think she would be as hated if it wasn't for Gina's blatant dislike for her.

I disagree. I, and many other Gina fans do not hate Hazel because Gina hates her, we hate her for the Daley showmance and other reasons.

user104658 25-07-2013 03:59 PM

The initial dislike started with the Daley showmance, since then she's just become an easy target for hateful people.

He's not entirely wrong though: Gina has been clear about disliking Hazel and the public, for some reason, think the sun shines out of Gina's arse. In reality, as her reaction to the snake costume in the DR shows, she's just another one of those hateful, immature people who gets her jollies from seeing people upset. No wonder "the public" likes her... like attracts like, I suppose.

Spoon 25-07-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6210481)
If you think about it why on earth would dan blame hazel, she explained to him he assaulted her....
Stands to reason he would naturally think there must be another explanation other than we live in a society that condones that behaviour?

I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

Niamh. 25-07-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 6210587)
I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

That's true enough

user104658 25-07-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 6210587)
I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

I agree, he must know that people being people will be keen to find blame in hazel for what "happened to" hazel. He's been keen not to say so to her face though even when she's thought it. Mainly because it's a really awful, damaging opinion to hold.

But yeah as a policeman hell have seen it many times before. She were askin for it officer! She lead me on! Bloody despicable.

MrWong 25-07-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6210543)
I disagree. I, and many other Gina fans do not hate Hazel because Gina hates her, we hate her for the Daley showmance and other reasons.

That's why I dislike her.

I can't stand showmances and was even willing to put up with Wolfy for another week over the Dazel bollocks.

user104658 25-07-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 6210598)
That's why I dislike her.

I can't stand showmances and was even willing to put up with Wolfy for another week over the Dazel bollocks.

I assume you dislike Charlie, callum and dexter equally, then?

MrWong 25-07-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6210660)
I assume you dislike Charlie, callum and dexter equally, then?

Not quite but the love triangle edits have ruined this weeks viewing pleasure.

Luckily for Dexter he doesn't have to rely so heavily on the love triangle because he's a big character. For Charlie/Callum it's all they have so bare the brunt of my dislike overall.

DanielLuis 25-07-2013 04:38 PM

She's hated since before those two entered the safe house. I don't think the other housemates have any idea of how Daley and Hazel's flirtations were.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 6210683)
Not quite but the love triangle edits have ruined this weeks viewing pleasure.

Luckily for Dexter he doesn't have to rely so heavily on the love triangle because he's a big character. For Charlie/Callum it's all they have so bare the brunt of my dislike overall.

I hope Callum and Charlie spend all their time with each other. I prefer Dexter with Gina. At least she's a true friend. Charlie is not.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielLuis (Post 6210685)
She's hated since before those two entered the safe house. I don't think the other housemates have any idea of how Daley and Hazel's flirtations were.

Dan is annoying me today.

Kizzy 25-07-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6210594)
I agree, he must know that people being people will be keen to find blame in hazel for what "happened to" hazel. He's been keen not to say so to her face though even when she's thought it. Mainly because it's a really awful, damaging opinion to hold.

But yeah as a policeman hell have seen it many times before. She were askin for it officer! She lead me on! Bloody despicable.

That's probably what daley said to the star in his interview....

jet 25-07-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210482)
hazel is hated because of the whole daley thing. If it wasn't for that she'd be more popular.

Yes, but the HM's may not know the full extent of her flirting with Daley. For example, Dan wasn't around a lot of the time that she was doing it, and the others individually weren't always there either. When the other HM's did see it, they wouldn't know what was actually being said between the 2 of them.
We know, because the highlights concentrated on it, and Gina and Dexter know as they watched from the safe house.
I think Dan is just trying to work out why his friend is hated so much, and isn't a big leap for him to think that D&G saw things he and the other HM's didn't and he could well think that they are targeting Hazel for that (which is partly true!)

user104658 25-07-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6210695)
That's probably what daley said to the star in his interview....

It's what people seem to believe! The same people who brand any young girl in a short skirt a "slut" and think it was her own fault if some pervert decides to have a grope.

Even more mind-bogglingly - 99% of these people are other women :/. Women are misogynists. Who knew.


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