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farhad 30-07-2013 10:36 PM

How do Atheist feel when Allah said in Quran he turned sinful people into Apes?
 
"So when they exceeded the bounds of that which they were prohibited We said to them: be apes and they were" (7:166)

: Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped Evil;― these are (many times) worse in rank and far more astray from the even Path!(5:60)

Do you still consider humans as apes?

Smithy 30-07-2013 10:38 PM

I think the real question is, how excited is everyone for ARTPOP

Tom4784 30-07-2013 10:46 PM

I'm curious about ARTPOP but not overly excited yet.

Scarlett. 30-07-2013 10:47 PM

Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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Jordan. 30-07-2013 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 6231294)
I think the real question is, how excited is everyone for ARTPOP

Waiting for that smash single "Apes (Allahs wrath)"

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DanaC 30-07-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 6231286)
"So when they exceeded the bounds of that which they were prohibited We said to them: be apes and they were" (7:166)

: Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped Evil;― these are (many times) worse in rank and far more astray from the even Path!(5:60)

Do you still consider humans as apes?

Never understood this notion, really. Apes are super intelligent animals and very beautiful creatures. Setting aside the fact that I don't believe in a creator and do believe we evolved from a common ancestor, why turn evil sinners into apes?

DanaC 30-07-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6231329)
Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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This post is da bomb

Josy 30-07-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6231329)
Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















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This post...............I am actually lmao

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

farhad 30-07-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6231450)
Never understood this notion, really. Apes are super intelligent animals and very beautiful creatures. Setting aside the fact that I don't believe in a creator and do believe we evolved from a common ancestor, why turn evil sinners into apes?

That's like asking why a criminal wasn't made to serve imprisonment. Since Atheist believe in evolution and insult human beings as apes, hence why should they be upset if allah turned bad people into apes lol.

DanaC 30-07-2013 11:47 PM

Umm... humans aren't apes, they're just members of the same family (at a push you could say that the family is 'Great Apes', but that's a bit of a misnomer).

And, I don't see how it is an insult. As I, somewhat unsuccessfully tried to explain, apes are wonderful creatures.

My point was: why would 'Allah' select apes as the creature of choice for evil people? Apes and swine. Again, never understood why swine were chosen. Never really understood the disdain for swine. Pigs are great. They're very clever creatures.

Why not turn bad humans into, I dunno, giraffes and shellfish, to pick a couple at random. Why all the piggy hate? Why the gorilla goading?

LikeABoatOnWater 30-07-2013 11:47 PM

Orangutans?

Shaun 31-07-2013 12:08 AM

I generally laugh it off because it was written by some imaginative, zealous fearmongerers centuries ago.

LikeABoatOnWater 31-07-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6231916)
I generally laugh it off because it was written by some imaginative, zealous fearmongerers centuries ago.

But Shaun you could get turned into a cutie like this
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1260/5...51cb35d1_b.jpg
surely thats enough to believe
im starting to get into this muslim ****.

DanaC 31-07-2013 12:17 AM

Evil. Look at those evil eyes.

farhad 31-07-2013 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6231754)
Umm... humans aren't apes, they're just members of the same family (at a push you could say that the family is 'Great Apes', but that's a bit of a misnomer).

And, I don't see how it is an insult. As I, somewhat unsuccessfully tried to explain, apes are wonderful creatures.

My point was: why would 'Allah' select apes as the creature of choice for evil people? Apes and swine. Again, never understood why swine were chosen. Never really understood the disdain for swine. Pigs are great. They're very clever creatures.

Why not turn bad humans into, I dunno, giraffes and shellfish, to pick a couple at random. Why all the piggy hate? Why the gorilla goading?

So you would want to turn to an animal? lol

DanaC 31-07-2013 12:27 AM

And you got that from my post how?




Incidentally, we already are animals. We're just very, very clever ones.

Redway 31-07-2013 12:33 AM

Religion in general is a load of old shit characterised by inconceivably hateful and downright sickening attitudes towards certain groups (a complete contradiction of the God of love) and there's actually stone-hard proof for science, so I don't tend to pay attention to silly quotes like that.

LikeABoatOnWater 31-07-2013 12:34 AM

Can Allah cure me of my gayness, Farhad?

farhad 31-07-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 6232021)
Religion in general is a load of old shit characterised by inconceivably hateful and downright sickening attitudes towards certain groups (a complete contradiction of the God of love) and there's actually stone-hard proof for science, so I don't tend to pay attention to silly quotes like that.

So you expect God to love you even if you denied him or if you committed a murder and rape you want your creator to love you? Are you insane?

If you read the verse and the story allah did not curse good people but the people who committed sinful behaviors after warnings and warnings. Its like an offender got several warnings but still continued with his criminal act, would you love that person? Our creator will at least expect us to return him back with what he's given us with all the foods and creation, expect to do good righteous deeds and worship who created you and me.

Jessica. 31-07-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 6231329)
Well, I cry sometimes, when I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out, what's in my head and I, I feel a little peculiar. So I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?


















http://i.imgur.com/sqM9f1e.gif

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Redway 31-07-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 6232172)
So you expect God to love you even if you denied him or if you committed a murder and rape you want your creator to love you? Are you insane?

I was on about the horrific attitude towards gays and women in the Bible and all, especially gays. Please don't tell me that you're comparing natural, perfectly normal tendencies to the likes of murder and rape.

farhad 31-07-2013 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 6232187)
I was on about the horrific attitude towards gays and women in the Bible and all, especially gays. Please don't tell me that you're comparing natural, perfectly normal tendencies to the likes of murder and rape.

The Bible was changed by people over the different periods so you will find things that goes against God and homosexuality is forbidden in all religions, because God made a man and women to breed and for survival of humanity.

Emmyasdfghjkl 31-07-2013 01:53 AM

I don't believe in it.. so I hardly care.

Kizzy 31-07-2013 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 6232216)
The Bible was changed by people over the different periods so you will find things that goes against God and homosexuality is forbidden in all religions, because God made a man and women to breed and for survival of humanity.

Well thank god for homosexuality then, otherwise imagine the overpopulation of the world... Where would everybody live?

farhad 31-07-2013 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl (Post 6232218)
I don't believe in it.. so I hardly care.

Only 6% of the whole worlds population don't believe in God, that shows the massive evidence of existence of God, there has to be 1 creator that created the world. I already feel sorry for you of your outcome in the next life, what if you was wrong about the non-existence of God, what answers will you have for the creator? Islam is the only religion that believes the oneness of God, there is 1 creator and he has no mother or father, he has no gender, no image, Islam came for whole of humanity, Allah said Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the final messenger for whole of mankind, compare to Christianity where Jesus only came for the Jews and Israel, Judaism only believes no one else can be Jewish if their great grandmother wasn't Jewish, Hinduism is only a religion of India with several hundred's of Gods in image, Islam is the only religion that was sent for the whole of humanity, Islam means submission to one and only 1 creator.

farhad 31-07-2013 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6232221)
Well thank god for homosexuality then, otherwise imagine the overpopulation of the world... Where would everybody live?

There are ways to stop overpopulation than indulging in same sex, anyway I'm not going to go into this topic then end up with locked thread.

Redway 31-07-2013 02:10 AM

Oh dear lord in heaven. (Excuse the pun.)

Kizzy 31-07-2013 02:12 AM

How?...
Prophets are the problem ....they come here, tell us half a tale then feck off! charming :idc:

farhad 31-07-2013 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6232240)
How?...
Prophets are the problem ....they come here, tell us half a tale then feck off! charming :idc:

Prpohet's come to pass on the message to their people of their creator. Islam abolishes idolatry and those who form an image of God commit idolatry. Islamic philosophy is the best because having no image of god prevents segregation of race and color, meaning we won't know how god appearance till we die, there won't be white or black or brown looking creator, no gender that can result in segregation, this is one is the main reason why Islam forbids image of god formed by human. Imagine if everyone worshipped 1 god, no image, how world would be like.

Redway 31-07-2013 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 6232247)
Prpohet's come to pass on the message to their people of their creator. Islam abolishes idolatry and those who form an image of God commit idolatry. Islamic philosophy is the best because having no image of god prevents segregation of race and color, meaning we won't know how god appearance till we die, there won't be white or black or brown looking creator, no gender that can result in segregation, this is one is the main reason why Islam forbids image of god formed by human. Imagine if everyone worshipped 1 god, no image, how world would be like.

Islam is still a horrendous religion littered with contradictions all over. I think I find muslim philosophy more abhorrent than "the best" tbh.

Kizzy 31-07-2013 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 6232247)
Prpohet's come to pass on the message to their people of their creator. Islam abolishes idolatry and those who form an image of God commit idolatry. Islamic philosophy is the best because having no image of god prevents segregation of race and color, meaning we won't know how god appearance till we die, there won't be white or black or brown looking creator, no gender that can result in segregation, this is one is the main reason why Islam forbids image of god formed by human. Imagine if everyone worshipped 1 god, no image, how world would be like.

I thought that was a given that there was one god, so how come these prophets all teach conflicting messages then.
You can understand why there is so much confusion over the right and wrong way to do stuff.

farhad 31-07-2013 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 6232250)
Islam is still a horrendous religion littered with contradictions all over. I think I find muslim philosophy more abhorrent than "the best" tbh.

You have not learned Islam or learned arabic to read and understand the quran or history and its belief. Islam has been the main religion since the world was created, Islam means worshiping your creator who 1 and only creator, please learn the truth and save yourself from the day of judgement. I've stopped watching Big Brother and Pornography because of the fear of what will happen to me in the next life, please search for the truth and don't deny God. I know deep down in your mind and heart you believe the existence of God but you have not found the right guidance. You can believe in evolution if you want but believe all that happened by God's will and intelligent design, please its for your own good.

farhad 31-07-2013 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6232255)
I thought that was a given that there was one god, so how come these prophets all teach conflicting messages then.
You can understand why there is so much confusion over the right and wrong way to do stuff.

What do you mean Prophet's taught different messages? They taught one message and their messages have been distorted of the period of time after their deaths and hence Prophet Muhammad PBUH was the last and final messenger to come and correct the distorting of man and preach the one and only creator.

DanaC 31-07-2013 02:32 AM

I believe in cake. Anyone else for cake?

Kizzy 31-07-2013 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 6232258)
What do you mean Prophet's taught different messages? They taught one message and their messages have been distorted of the period of time after their deaths and hence Prophet Muhammad PBUH was the last and final messenger to come and correct the distorting of man and preach the one and only creator.

Do you accept jesus as a prophet?

farhad 31-07-2013 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6232260)
Do you accept jesus as a prophet?

Yes, I can't be muslim if I didn't, he isn't God because he was a man, same way prophet Muhammad was, he came to preach the message of one god to his people and they denied him as the messenger. People who form image of a God as a man are committing idol worship, why image of a man as god and make him look white or black or brown, this goes against Islam and even goes against the Bible of forming image of God.

Shaun 31-07-2013 02:56 AM

is nikki grahame a prophet

Kizzy 31-07-2013 02:59 AM

If they denied jesus, why send another prophet as a man?
Send a talking goat, or an angel. I have a distrust of religion.
Nothing that has caused so much greed and death can ever be described as good.

farhad 31-07-2013 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6232265)
If they denied jesus, why send another prophet as a man?
Send a talking goat, or an angel. I have a distrust of religion.
Nothing that has caused so much greed and death can ever be described as good.

To preach the mandkind of their creator, prophet's were meant to guide their people but over the period of times their message had been distorted and made to look evil, do you really think Jesus PBUH had said a lot of evil things in the Bible such as incest, killing women and children during war?? A prophet would not say those things but people have changed their message after their death.

Kizzy 31-07-2013 03:10 AM

Yes well, the message is lost as it incurs too much wrath to question the prophets.... especially the last one.


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