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brucie 02-08-2013 11:45 PM

The twin who weighs 18 stone said "Of course I want some" when offered pancakes
 
...just now I heard Sophie say she was making late night pancakes and asked everyone if they wanted some and of the twins said " I'm 18 stone..of course I want some" and then laughed...:shocked:

They don't seem to be concerned about their weight at all...they almost revel in it.

CaudleHalbard 02-08-2013 11:48 PM

Being 18 stone at the age of 19 is tragic!

Are they too dimwitted to realise what a life of illness awaits them?

The trouble is they validate each other.

brucie 02-08-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6243024)
Being 18 stone at the age of 19 is tragic!

Ate they too dimwitted to realise what a life of illness awaits them?

I think...as sad as this sounds...their weight is part of what they percieve to be their novelty value...plus the 'twin' factor...if you take those both away what are you left with?

Jamie. 02-08-2013 11:53 PM

Playing the weight card is low Brucie

MTVN 02-08-2013 11:53 PM

Nothing wrong with that

Tozzie 02-08-2013 11:55 PM

I really don't like the twins but I also don't like how people are being shallow about their weight. I do actually on this occasion blame their mother, she obviously hasnt taught them how to live a healthy lifestyle. Their weight at 19 years old is a worry, they are being set up for major health problems at a very young age.

brucie 02-08-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie. (Post 6243048)
Playing the weight card is low Brucie

i'm not....i was just shocked to hear it

GypsyGoth 02-08-2013 11:55 PM

The twins seem happy and not bothered by their weight, so it doesn't bother me what size they are at all.

Tozzie 02-08-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 6243064)
The twins seem happy and not bothered by their weight, so it doesn't bother me what size they are at all.

seeming and being is 2 different things Gypsy.

brucie 02-08-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6243050)
Nothing wrong with that

jokes aside...at their tender age and corresponding weight is no laughing matter..

imagine youngsters watching this and thinking being that size is ok...:conf:

brucie 02-08-2013 11:58 PM

their sister attended the live eviction this evening and she too..looked like jelly.

CaudleHalbard 02-08-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 6243064)
The twins seem happy and not bothered by their weight, so it doesn't bother me what size they are at all.

The point is they and their parents should be VERY bothered about it.

It is easy to lose weight at that age as I know from personal experience - having lost 3 stone between the ages of 17 and 18.

GypsyGoth 03-08-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 6243069)
seeming and being is 2 different things Gypsy.

I guess but they seem like they would have the will power to diet if they wanted to be thinner. They would also have each other as motivation.

Or they could be aiming to be on one of those Biggest Losers shows after this.

brucie 03-08-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6243075)
The point is they and their parents should be VERY bothered about it.

It is easy to lose weight at that age as I know from personal experience - having lost 3 stone between the ages of 17 and 18.

good on ya mate..

GypsyGoth 03-08-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6243075)
The point is they and their parents should be VERY bothered about it.

That's true, but it's like smoking or drinking to excess. I don't think life is for everyone and sometimes people chose something that will limit their time here.

I agree that they're probably heading for heart attacks (maybe twin heart attacks at the same time) before they're 50 or something. But they do seem clever enough to realise the damage carrying unnecessary weight on your body can do.

Kizzy 03-08-2013 12:06 AM

It's really unhealthy to be that big at any age, but the fact they think it's funny is worrying. This twin told of breaking his ankle and mocked a 'fat mans' walk....
Weakened joints and the pressure of 18st pressing down on them could mean that lumbering fat man with painful arthritic joints might be him one day.
Let's hope they cut out the carveries a bit :)

Sophiee 03-08-2013 12:49 AM

it's so extremely unhealthy to be that weight at their age. they're always talking about food and their weight but I think it does secretly bother them.

Scream 03-08-2013 12:50 AM

I think it's an insecurity that they laugh at to make it seem like they don't care

Withano 03-08-2013 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scream (Post 6243201)
I think it's an insecurity that they laugh at to make it seem like they don't care

Definitely, I find it incredibly unlikely that they haven't tried to lose weight before they stopped trying too. Sometimes, its genetic.

DanaC 03-08-2013 01:25 AM

Just sounded like self effacing humour to me.

Kizzy 03-08-2013 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 6243211)
Definitely, I find it incredibly unlikely that they haven't tried to lose weight before they stopped trying too. Sometimes, its genetic.

Nope, they're just gluttons, the comment 'I'm 18st of course I want pancakes' confirms it.
http://i.myniceprofile.com/107/10744.jpg

Jake. 03-08-2013 03:08 AM

Let them be overweight? Don't see what their weight has to do with other people tbh, they chose to be that size and they know what to do if they wish to change.

swinearefine 03-08-2013 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 6243062)
I really don't like the twins but I also don't like how people are being shallow about their weight. I do actually on this occasion blame their mother, she obviously hasnt taught them how to live a healthy lifestyle. Their weight at 19 years old is a worry, they are being set up for major health problems at a very young age.

:suspect: this is disgustingly sexist. Why blame their mother and not their father? This isn't the 1950s where it's down to the mother to take care of dinner and the kids. And it's wrong to blame the parents either way, seeing as no one knows anything about their home life or what their parents have taught them.

Issac 03-08-2013 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brucie (Post 6243010)
...just now I heard Sophie say she was making late night pancakes and asked everyone if they wanted some and of the twins said " I'm 18 stone..of course I want some" and then laughed...:shocked:

They don't seem to be concerned about their weight at all...they almost revel in it.

Fat jokes are their routine. Fat face, Fat eyelids, Fatty in bikini, Fatty likes food; according to Emma Willis are amazing & so funny. Their comedy would be back to yo mumma jokes if they got slim.

DanaC 03-08-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by swinearefine (Post 6243502)
:suspect: this is disgustingly sexist. Why blame their mother and not their father? This isn't the 1950s where it's down to the mother to take care of dinner and the kids. And it's wrong to blame the parents either way, seeing as no one knows anything about their home life or what their parents have taught them.

You're so right. I hadn't even picked up on that.

smeagol 03-08-2013 08:29 AM

they are disgusting pigs . whats so good about being obese and greedy what a lovely trait to have. while people starve everywhere.
19 and obese thats just wrong. they try to be funny to conpensate but they just are not in the slightlest
i blame the parents you dont get to 19 stone by 19 unless fed badly as a kid

mr rochester 03-08-2013 08:31 AM

The twins have gone in there using a very over-rehearsed format. They know they are fat because they allude to it all the time. So they want us to like them even though we are concerned for their health. In their terms they think this can be done through their rehearsed humour. It is clear that they have been over-indulged both with food and the idea that they are funny. I suspect they learned very early that being overweight allowed them to avoid certain things in their life that they did not want to do; e.g I'm not going to pedal the bike tomorrow morning - I'll wipe the surfaces in the kitchen down but that's it... So being so overweight has many compensations for them. We - as aware human-beings who have grown up with the accepted notion that being overweight causes many health problems - so a lot of what is said about their weight is said through concern for them. Having said that their parents have, until recently, been responsible for their well-being. Both of the sisters we have seen are also large and yes it can be genetic. Notwithstanding this they are now responsible for themselves. I think they are over-indulged and have been all of their lives and this is at the root of it. It does not sound like anyone in their family has actually dealt with the elephant in the room and I'm not sure if either of them are yet evolved enough to take active steps to secure their own long-term futures. At best they are figures of derision and at worse they are walking/sitting time bombs. Perhaps the whole family need an intervention. Its so complicated...We all get sucked into this on many levels and can be accused of not being PC for whatever opinion we put forward. If we say they are fine as they are deep inside we know they are not. If we comment on their weight we are being fattist. If we say their parents are to blame we are being unkind to their parents and still putting the responsibility for their futures in parental hands. I believe the fact they are still in there will once again give them the message that they are both absolutely fine - so we have also over-indulged them. I can't see how the circle will ever be broken. They are prime candidates for a weight loss programme and I for one would watch it in the fervent hope that they emerge as shadows of their former selves at the reveal...

DanaC 03-08-2013 08:47 AM

Right. We're all just concerned for their health. Not the least bit judgemental or cruel, just concerned. Such a shame fat people can't see that the fat jokes and comments about them being physically disgusting or personally off-putting are just a way of showing caring and concern.

Verbal 03-08-2013 09:24 AM

And of course all of the posters on here all have bodies like Sam don't you? Its very, very low to be having such a mocking title and thread. Nobody chooses to be fat/big. I'm fat and it is due to a multitude of health issues.

I would personally love to be built like Sam and i'm sure they would too, but we're not and never will be. It's called life. I can only assume the OP is about 12, it shows nothing but naivety and ignorance. I'm sure if it wouldnt get them a ban they would probably be making light of Sam's hearing and such things.

Take a step back from yourself from time to time and think.

Welcome to my ignore list

anne666 03-08-2013 11:16 AM

I don't agree that obesity has any genetic factor. Too many calories and not burning them off = weight gain. They could always get a gastric band at the taxpayers expense. They would never have to exert themselves physically , by actually moving around more or mentally by utilising, I would think for the first time in their spoiled lives, a modicum of self restraint. That would fit in perfectly with the way they have been brought up, from what I have seen

Verbal 03-08-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by anne666 (Post 6243817)
I don't agree that obesity has any genetic factor. Too many calories and not burning them off = weight gain. They could always get a gastric band at the taxpayers expense. They would never have to exert themselves physically , by actually moving around more or mentally by utilising, I would think for the first time in their spoiled lives, a modicum of self restraint. That would fit in perfectly with the way they have been brought up, from what I have seen

I know of people who due to no fault of their own would make the twins look like swim suit models. So, yea.

aman201 03-08-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucie (Post 6243010)
...just now I heard Sophie say she was making late night pancakes and asked everyone if they wanted some and of the twins said " I'm 18 stone..of course I want some" and then laughed...:shocked:

They don't seem to be concerned about their weight at all...they almost revel in it.

He's trying to be funny.

Failed again though.

Tregard 03-08-2013 11:20 AM

At least they aren't as celebratory about it as Becky last series.

aman201 03-08-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tregard (Post 6243839)
At least they aren't as celebratory about it as Becky last series.

Not when Luke A mentioned her BMI. :joker:

Luke A. :dance:

DanaC 03-08-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anne666 (Post 6243817)
I don't agree that obesity has any genetic factor. Too many calories and not burning them off = weight gain. They could always get a gastric band at the taxpayers expense. They would never have to exert themselves physically , by actually moving around more or mentally by utilising, I would think for the first time in their spoiled lives, a modicum of self restraint. That would fit in perfectly with the way they have been brought up, from what I have seen

There are many factors involved in weight gain. At it's absolute simplest, it is too many calories for the body to burn off (often because of insufficient exercise). But: different people's bodies deal with excess calories differently. If I overeat for a few days, my appetite then drops off and the thought of food makes me feel slightly sick so i end up dropping the amount of calories I intake. For some people this doesn't happen, instead their bodies respond in a different way, turning the excess calories into fat without switching off their appetite.

There have also been some studies done in the last few years which show an apparent link between a common virus and sudden changes in appetite and the body's response to excess calories; with people who've always been slim suddenly gaining large amounts of weight. It's not clear exactly what the relationship between the factors is yet but there is enough evidence to suggest that it may be a crucial part of the obesity problem.

There are other factors to consider too: different people need different levels of exercise to burn off similar amounts of excess calories. There are a range of physical conditions which can limit the amount of exercise a person can get. There are also many illnesses/conditions which can impact on appetite.

I have a friend who is very overweight, but I guarantee she does much more exercise than i do in an average day and her diet is far healthier than mine. I live a pretty sedentary life other than dog walks, and my diet is appalling: i go through phases of healthy eating, but I spend weeks at a time living on fast food, takeouts, chocolate bars, etc.

She has far more self control than I do. But because I am slim and she is fat people assume I am healthier and less gluttonous than her.

I suspect that I have far more fat in my internal organs than she does.

There are also, of course problems set in childhood, with how we relate to food. They can be very difficult to address. Not just because we form habitual relationships with food, but because our diet as children affects how many fat cells we have as adults. People who gain weight in childhood and adolescence genuinely have a harder time losing weight than people who don't gain their weight until adulthood.

There was an excellent documentary a few years ago called 'Why are thin people not fat?'

I highly recommend it. It's really fascinating.

Here it is on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeeFrcvt3KA

Verbal 03-08-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6243877)
There are many factors involved in weight gain. At it's absolute simplest, it is too many calories for the body to burn off (often because of insufficient exercise). But: different people's bodies deal with excess calories differently. If I overeat for a few days, my appetite then drops off and the thought of food makes me feel slightly sick so i end up dropping the amount of calories I intake. For some people this doesn't happen, instead their bodies respond in a different way, turning the excess calories into fat without switching off their appetite.

There have also been some studies done in the last few years which show an apparent link between a common virus and sudden changes in appetite and the body's response to excess calories; with people who've always been slim suddenly gaining large amounts of weight. It's not clear exactly what the relationship between the factors is yet but there is enough evidence to suggest that it may be a crucial part of the obesity problem.

There are other factors to consider too: different people need different levels of exercise to burn off similar amounts of excess calories. There are a range of physical conditions which can limit the amount of exercise a person can get. There are also many illnesses/conditions which can impact on appetite.

I have a friend who is very overweight, but I guarantee she does much more exercise than i do in an average day and her diet is far healthier than mine. I live a pretty sedentary life other than dog walks, and my diet is appalling: i go through phases of healthy eating, but I spend weeks at a time living on fast food, takeouts, chocolate bars, etc.

She has far more self control than I do. But because I am slim and she is fat people assume I am healthier and less gluttonous than her.

I suspect that I have far more fat in my internal organs than she does.

There was an excellent documentary a few years ago called 'Why are thin people not fat?'

I highly recommend it. It's really fascinating.

Here it is on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeeFrcvt3KA

Far too much sense in that post, Dana. The majority won't grasp it.

anne666 03-08-2013 11:37 AM

Watching these two in the house my conclusion is they eat too much very unhealthy food. If they have a slow metabolic rate they need to exercise more than the average person. Early Heart attack and type two diabetes at least , if they don't. Thank you for the link .

DanaC 03-08-2013 11:37 AM

Yeah. *smiles* but some might :p

I edited since you quoted btw.

Kizzy 03-08-2013 11:37 AM

This might great topic for serious debates?

Beastie 03-08-2013 11:40 AM

God they are 19 and they are cute. Leave them alone.


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