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cfromhx02 07-08-2013 12:51 AM

What's with the BS on BBBOTS blaming HAZEL for instigating the attack on Charlie ?
 
It was noticeable tonight how there was no noticeable sucking up to Gina on BBBOTS,means they know she's guilty tonight I think, and good that the whole panel defended Charlie , when they all know it's a den of Gina supporters and BB staff suck ups to Gina supporters,

but none of the panel had the courage to say they'd seen Gina misrepresenting Charlie and seen her stirring things up and steeping back to smirk and laugh at the fight afterward.

But what was behind the BS from one of Gina's supporters who said Hazel was the one who had removed the pin from the handgranade and stepped back to enjoy the chaos afterward.

And what was behind the psyh who said that Hazel was the 1 who had reined in the dogs to encircle Charlie then let them loose to attack.

Didn't these people watch the same programme ?

And particularly despicable that the psych who's on the staff was misrepresenting who caused the aggro,

or were they deliberately lying to make out Hazel had caused the trouble.

Surely they all saw it was Gina who started it and who misrepresented Charlie that she reigned them in then let them loose and it was her that stepped back to laugh ?

JTM45 07-08-2013 01:03 AM

Gina behaved very poorly but it was Hazel who was telling blatant lies about what Charlie had said.

Lister of Smeg 07-08-2013 01:04 AM

Tbh the only person that came out of tonights show better than when he went in was Dexter the rest bar maybe Sam all looked bad for ganging up on Charlie .

Lister of Smeg 07-08-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6257045)
Gina behaved very poorly but it was Hazel who was telling blatant lies about what Charlie had said.

This she tried to emotionally get to Dexter by twisting Charlies words to turn him against her it hasnt worked tho.

Kris 07-08-2013 01:24 AM

The way I saw it Hazel started the minute noms were over, Gina stirred and fuelled it and the rest jumped in apart from Sam. The whole thing was disgusting.:nono:

Daffodil 07-08-2013 07:20 AM

Definitely a pack mentality and very reminiscent of bullying at school.

Maneki-neko 07-08-2013 07:22 AM

She pretty much did tho

Vanessa 07-08-2013 07:24 AM

Hazel started it.

Ace 07-08-2013 07:27 AM

People can't see pass their hatred for Hazel over the Daley affair. If she is involved in anything she started it, when she retaliates, she's the aggressor, when she's a pawn in someone elses game, she's the ring-leader. Its the same old story people just can't see the wood for the trees.

joeysteele 07-08-2013 07:43 AM

There was a lot of anger and Gina was very vocal against Charlie becasue of what her boyfriend had said about her, bbbots is always against Hazel and has been ever since the Daley issue.
Emma allows it continuously to go on and they seem to also have forgotten that Hazel's Mum didn't nominate Charlie, it was the Twins Mum and Gina's boyfriend that laid into Charlie in the noms.

It is annoying and I agree totally with the opening post, only one gettting the blame when in fact all but Dexter were moaning at Charlie is pathetic.

Dexter hovered listening to what all the others were saying,never disagreeing with any of them I might add too but then he went to Charlie later and to be fair to him told her he too felt she had played the Callum and him saga too.

BBBOTS is under Emma very biased against Hazel, she has never had a fair ride on it, and although Emma did say she really gets into the tasks,does little to stop the constant Hazel bashing in my view.
Hazel was not totally wrong and had every right to be angry at Charlie, I for sure would have been.
I wouldn't feel able to trust Charlie at all after those family/friends noms and I doubt Gina is done with her yet too.

All this getting at Hazel is totally unfair in my view and even on here the 'evil' word being used is even more pathetic in my opinion.

smeagol 07-08-2013 08:05 AM

bbots never represents the truth most days i wonder if they actually watch the same show
most of the time they are so out of sync with the general opinion

Gusto Brunt 07-08-2013 08:10 AM

I was never a Charlie fan but Hazel and Gina acted appallingly.

joeysteele 07-08-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6257319)
bbots never represents the truth most days i wonder if they actually watch the same show
most of the time they are so out of sync with the general opinion

They are,you are right and it always seems that whatever theme the show is set around each night the audience is near fully behind it.

Ellen 07-08-2013 08:20 AM

I agree with Joey in that Hazel does get a rough ride due to the Daley thing. I think she had every right to be annoyed with Charlie, she not only had Charlie's silly friend dragging up something that was not relevant to Charlie & Hazel so she was already upset but then she had Gina & Sophie telling her Charlie was saying things behind her back. Hazel should have walked away once she said her peace & not joined in with the others, that was their issues with Charlie not hers.

Lister of Smeg 07-08-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6257333)
They are,you are right and it always seems that whatever theme the show is set around each night the audience is near fully behind it.

Whats hilarious is the audience members that make good points usually get shut down .

megamaja40 07-08-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg (Post 6257356)
Whats hilarious is the audience members that make good points usually get shut down .

BOTS...... Pack mentality

Lex 07-08-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg (Post 6257047)
Tbh the only person that came out of tonights show better than when he went in was Dexter the rest bar maybe Sam all looked bad for ganging up on Charlie .

I agree Lister...Dexter showed that he was the only contestant with any modicum of compassion last night!...And apart from the ugly pack mentality that was shown from the majority of the housemates,...what I found telling was Sam's total inactivity in the "loyalty-factor"!...In the last few days since creepy Callum was booted out, she and Sam have been 'supposedly' getting on like a house on fire...hence surely it only stands to reason that if the lad was genuinely there for the experience, and to be a positive role model for the hard of hearing...and wasn't just another game-player that has a plan to win the cash....he would have stuck up for,..and comforted his friend Charlie!

Mmmm!...Proud of Dexter,...disappointed with Sam! [again!] :nono:

MrWong 07-08-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cfromhx02 (Post 6257014)
It was noticeable tonight how there was no noticeable sucking up to Gina on BBBOTS,means they know she's guilty tonight I think, and good that the whole panel defended Charlie , when they all know it's a den of Gina supporters and BB staff suck ups to Gina supporters,

There was barely any discussion about Gina so what exactly could the BOTS crowd react to? Oh and by the way, the crowd can support more than one housemate.

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but none of the panel had the courage to say they'd seen Gina misrepresenting Charlie and seen her stirring things up and steeping back to smirk and laugh at the fight afterward.
:joker: The panel not slagging off Gina means they lack courage? Far more likely that they didn't see Gina's role as significant in the grand scheme of things.

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But what was behind the BS from one of Gina's supporters who said Hazel was the one who had removed the pin from the handgranade and stepped back to enjoy the chaos afterward.

And what was behind the psyh who said that Hazel was the 1 who had reined in the dogs to encircle Charlie then let them loose to attack.

Didn't these people watch the same programme ?
Hazel was rattled by the nom's so threw her bessy under the bus. Much like Charlie did.

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And particularly despicable that the psych who's on the staff was misrepresenting who caused the aggro,

or were they deliberately lying to make out Hazel had caused the trouble.

Surely they all saw it was Gina who started it and who misrepresented Charlie that she reigned them in then let them loose and it was her that stepped back to laugh ?
The F&F nom's caused the trouble. Pretty obvious I would have thought.

barbel13 07-08-2013 11:09 AM

To be fair for Sam it was difficult to catch up and understand when a group argue at the same time due to his hearing problem.So this is not his cup of tea.Sam will express himself on one to one argument but not group argument.Dex to win.

daniel-lewis-1985 07-08-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6257275)
Hazel started it.

No she didn't it was Gina.

Speedster 07-08-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace (Post 6257276)
People can't see pass their hatred for Hazel over the Daley affair. If she is involved in anything she started it, when she retaliates, she's the aggressor, when she's a pawn in someone elses game, she's the ring-leader. Its the same old story people just can't see the wood for the trees.


:thumbs:

Livia 07-08-2013 11:23 AM

I've given up watching this abortion of a show. They've acted outrageously to Hazel, and they had the audacity to have a dispicable touch-feely interview with Daley. And that horrible old harridan on there last night, Carole... just before they went to a break saying that Hazel was responsible for Daley being thrown out". *******ing outrageous. That old bag is supposed to be a Sexual Health Worker. What does she say to the boys? Do anything you like to the girls, we can blame them for your bad behaviour afterwards.

Northern Monkey 07-08-2013 11:29 AM

Yeah Gina defo stirred it all up but i think they want her in the final.Hazel was bad too,I think the producers would rather see Hazel go than Gina.

Tozzie 07-08-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace (Post 6257276)
People can't see pass their hatred for Hazel over the Daley affair. If she is involved in anything she started it, when she retaliates, she's the aggressor, when she's a pawn in someone elses game, she's the ring-leader. Its the same old story people just can't see the wood for the trees.

I disagree, I admit I initially really didn't like Hazel because of the Daley business but over time I came to warm to her a little. I was liking her one minute then not the next, then liking her again. I must say last night her behaviour was awful, she was very vicious and cold so that is my reason for not liking her again, nothing to do with the Daley business. I understand some people can't see past the Daley affair but not all. Hazel has made me dislike her this time all on her own. She appears to me to have a nasty streak in her and I don't like that.

Livia 07-08-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 6257649)
I disagree, I admit I initially really didn't like Hazel because of the Daley business but over time I came to warm to her a little. I was liking her one minute then not the next, then liking her again. I must say last night her behaviour was awful, she was very vicious and cold so that is my reason for not liking her again, nothing to do with the Daley business. I understand some people can't see past the Daley affair but not all. Hazel has made me dislike her this time all on her own. She appears to me to have a nasty streak in her and I don't like that.

You don't think she had a right to be angry?

You think she should just keep taking it, in case she upsets anyone?

It amuses me that of all the odious personalities in there, Hazel is the one who's singled out for the most venom. She's an intelligent woman, eloquent and articulate, she takes no prisoners and she doesn't burst into tears every time things aren't going her way... and people hate her for it.

Lex 07-08-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by barbel13 (Post 6257606)
To be fair for Sam it was difficult to catch up and understand when a group argue at the same time due to his hearing problem.So this is not his cup of tea.Sam will express himself on one to one argument but not group argument.Dex to win.

To be fair barbel...Sam didn't need to keep up with what was said to show compassion to a 'friend in distress' did he..?
All he had to do was follow her into the bedroom as "The cold hearted rat Dexter" [as his detractors would portray him] did, and offer a shoulder to cry on!...but did we see any of the expected 'friend-etiquette' displayed by Sam?...did we hell!...we saw a display of the boy's gameplan to keep away from anything that might be unpopular with both the other housemates and more importantly....the voting public!...it's accumulation of niggly little things like this that has put the boy right down in my estimation in the last couple of weeks barbel..I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with "playing the game to win"...[and it might just be the fact that 'his sincere-lad act' had me fooled for weeks?:blush2:] but this level of sneakyness is too much for me!....I no longer want him to win, and refuse to brush his bad points off as "Well ..it's harder for lovely Sam!".. :hmph:

Cheers.

Speedster 07-08-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6257632)
I've given up watching this abortion of a show. They've acted outrageously to Hazel, and they had the audacity to have a dispicable touch-feely interview with Daley. And that horrible old harridan on there last night, Carole... just before they went to a break saying that Hazel was responsible for Daley being thrown out". *******ing outrageous. That old bag is supposed to be a Sexual Health Worker. What does she say to the boys? Do anything you like to the girls, we can blame them for your bad behaviour afterwards.


I heard her say that too, the silly woman (I'm being polite.) And I think you've got a really good point about the kind of message it sends out-namely that the guys can do what they want because society just blames women. Disgraceful.

joeysteele 07-08-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6257632)
I've given up watching this abortion of a show. They've acted outrageously to Hazel, and they had the audacity to have a dispicable touch-feely interview with Daley. And that horrible old harridan on there last night, Carole... just before they went to a break saying that Hazel was responsible for Daley being thrown out". *******ing outrageous. That old bag is supposed to be a Sexual Health Worker. What does she say to the boys? Do anything you like to the girls, we can blame them for your bad behaviour afterwards.

Ace post.
I agree with every word and although I haven't stopped watching,I am really appalled at the truly biased and unjust treatment towards Hazel too.

Carole was a hopeless housemate and she is even worse as a panellist.

Seanbon 07-08-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6257655)
You don't think she had a right to be angry?

You think she should just keep taking it, in case she upsets anyone?

It amuses me that of all the odious personalities in there, Hazel is the one who's singled out for the most venom. She's an intelligent woman, eloquent and articulate, she takes no prisoners and she doesn't burst into tears every time things aren't going her way... and people hate her for it.



:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

Seanbon 07-08-2013 03:14 PM

I firmly believe that the continued biased editing of BB,and the character assassination of Hazel on BBBOTS,is because Hazel would be of no use to BB if she won!! She probably would never have won,but they're making darned sure she doesn't.
Hazel already has a career,and her going on BB was in order to try and break into the UK market,which,despite the controversy,I think she will succeed in doing. She's a strong willed,savvy business woman,who will need no guidance from BB,and more importantly will not be easily manipulated by BB!?!
BB will get 6 months out of Gina,maybe a year out of Dexter,and then they will be forgotten,bar the odd "guest" appearance on BBBOTS!!!:joker::joker:

DanaC 07-08-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6257536)
I agree Lister...Dexter showed that he was the only contestant with any modicum of compassion last night!...And apart from the ugly pack mentality that was shown from the majority of the housemates,...what I found telling was Sam's total inactivity in the "loyalty-factor"!...In the last few days since creepy Callum was booted out, she and Sam have been 'supposedly' getting on like a house on fire...hence surely it only stands to reason that if the lad was genuinely there for the experience, and to be a positive role model for the hard of hearing...and wasn't just another game-player that has a plan to win the cash....he would have stuck up for,..and comforted his friend Charlie!

Mmmm!...Proud of Dexter,...disappointed with Sam! [again!] :nono:

You mean that same pack mentality that was directed at Callum when he was in there?


To be fair to Emma and the BOTS team, during discussions after the Daley incident, Emma consistently put forward the fact that Daley was the one cheating on his girlfriend, whilst Hazel was single. Most if not all the team seemed very uneasy with the idea of people blaming Hazel for his actions in the Safe House too. They didn;t want to crucify him for it,true, and some disagreed with his being booted out, but they all said he overstepped the line and that Hazel cannot be held responsible for that.

Spoon 07-08-2013 05:48 PM

BOTS is always biased.

Tozzie 07-08-2013 11:54 PM

Of course she has a right to be angry but there is a right and wrong way to go about things. She went head on at Charlie, she was awful with her and did it in front of the whole house. Thats out of order. I do not 'hate' Hazel Livia, I don't like her though, in my mind she has a horrible personality, you like her, I don't.

SurfersCreed 08-08-2013 12:01 AM

It was 100% GINA who stirred things up against Charlie.
She was also the only HM to show a vicious GLEE at Charlie's distress.
Gina is a NASTY peice of work.

Videostar 08-08-2013 12:03 AM

I do agree that Gina got an easy ride on BOTS tonight, she was heavily involved in the attacks on Charlie, and she was loving every minute of it.

But TBF, Hazel did steal the show with her very spiteful remarks and insults at Charlie's friend.

joeysteele 08-08-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SurfersCreed (Post 6260183)
It was 100% GINA who stirred things up against Charlie.
She was also the only HM to show a vicious GLEE at Charlie's distress.
Gina is a NASTY peice of work.

I like Gina but she was the one in the main loading the guns against Charlie after what her boyfriend said.

Hazel had a lot to say and did so, Hazel got a bolt from the blue as to Charlies awful friend nominating her and why she did so was right to get at Charlie in my view.

the_answers 08-08-2013 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6258363)
To be fair to Emma and the BOTS team, during discussions after the Daley incident, Emma consistently put forward the fact that Daley was the one cheating on his girlfriend, whilst Hazel was single. Most if not all the team seemed very uneasy with the idea of people blaming Hazel for his actions in the Safe House too. They didn;t want to crucify him for it,true, and some disagreed with his being booted out, but they all said he overstepped the line and that Hazel cannot be held responsible for that.

Yes they blamed Daley too.
But I don't agree with your analysis tbh.
Rightly or wrongly and whether you agree, from what I saw it was a moral crusade against the "behaviour" from start to finish.

Since when did "flirting" become a crime ?
Show me any man or woman who can only find ONE person attractive.
It's ridiculous (especially from BB)

But hey, let's just forget we're all human beings and just point the finger instead...


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