Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292179)

Dexter has been caught out as a con man, which is no surprise really. It is as clear as day that Dexter wanted to take the money and run. I was able to see and assimilate all the numbers on the board quickly and I wasn't even in the room. They each had plenty of time to choose.
As each HM came into the room one by one, the amount they had chosen disappeared from the board. Sam chose 100k - it was blacked out. The twins would have seen the 100k was gone and they chose 96 something K. Which means they also were trying for the money if the 2 to come after them went higher. The amount they took was then blanked out. With me so far?

Dexter came next and although there was still 99k left, and 4 or 5 other amounts in the 90k range, he chose 88k. Now, if he had really wanted to stay, why didn't he chose the highest number still available? He said he didn't see the 99k, which of course he waffled around, but what about the other numbers in the 90k range? Didn't he see ANY of them?
Then he changes his story and says he thought someone would take a £1. Immediately you can see he regrets digging an even deeper hole for himself.

When the amounts are revealed, he acts as if he is upset. Then when BB says, 'However, Dexter will not receive the money' his eyes dart about in a panic. A few moments pass and he says' thank god'. Why would he say that if he thought he was going to be leaving with nothing? BB hadn't told him he was safe yet. Didn't he say he wanted to stay?

Then comes the relief when he finds out he is safe from eviction and the tears were a genuine reaction to that and not because he had to pick a HM to evict.

Originally Posted by varouca (Post 6292205)

what if he picked 95 k and still was the lowest

wud you be saying the same stuff

Originally Posted by varouca (Post 6292205)

what if he picked 95 k and still was the lowest

wud you be saying the same stuff

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6292213)

He could have picked the £100,000 (if it had still been there!) and the haters would still find a way to demonize him.
They want a boring dullard like Sam to win so it kind of explains why they hate entertaining people!:bored:

Originally Posted by varouca (Post 6292205)

what if he picked 95 k and still was the lowest

wud you be saying the same stuff

Originally Posted by Kaitel (Post 6292232)

Dexter couldn't win, if he had stuck with the unknown unspoken plan, which he never agreed to in the first place, then Charlie would be out and his haters would say why did you not give her a chance of picking higher when you knew she wanted to stay. He went in talking about 4's and 8's saying he was gonna choose either 4400 or 8800, that's why he picked 8800. He had no way of knowing for certain what everyone else would pick. Sam grabbed the 100k with no thoughts of the others safety, that's more selfish IMO.
Sam was just annoyed Dexter was safe and Callum's brainwash kicked in to overdrive again, and the twins were just hypocrites cause they didn't choose the next highest either anyway.

Originally Posted by sway (Post 6292269)

I'd rather watch a conman than have bitter boring Sam on my TV screen. Sleeping through the entire show WTF ! why is sam still there ?

Originally Posted by Kaitel (Post 6292232)

Dexter couldn't win, if he had stuck with the unknown unspoken plan, which he never agreed to in the first place, then Charlie would be out and his haters would say why did you not give her a chance of picking higher when you knew she wanted to stay. He went in talking about 4's and 8's saying he was gonna choose either 4400 or 8800, that's why he picked 8800. He had no way of knowing for certain what everyone else would pick. Sam grabbed the 100k with no thoughts of the others safety, that's more selfish IMO.
Sam was just annoyed Dexter was safe and Callum's brainwash kicked in to overdrive again, and the twins were just hypocrites cause they didn't choose the next highest either anyway.

Originally Posted by lippyzippy (Post 6292275)

if you prefer conmen who lie and steal then good luck to you, I prefer honest people like sam who totally expose liars stand up to them and defeat them, now that's entertainment.

Originally Posted by Kaitel (Post 6292268)

He was only deciding between 4400 and 8800, he went higher cause he didn't wanna leave, but if it was him at least that would be worth it and he would have saved Charlie from going. Where's the crime in that? He didn't ask for this twist, agree to any plan, know what the others would do for sure or choose the order they went in. Why should he be forced to make Charlie go, and she would have taken even more than he did in her attempt to stay, so don't see the issue.

Originally Posted by Kaitel (Post 6292304)

They should have sent him in first then, and the rest could see what he took, but no Sam made sure he was first once he heard the rules to get what he wanted. It's Sam's own fault for giving Dexter the power. Dexter has earned the full 100k anyway so 8800 of it for having to walk seems fair to me, and Sam would have had a better chance of winning the show which is all he claims to care about.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6292312)

Obv he didn't click that.... dexter did he was desperate to go last.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292324)

He really was, because then he could see what the others had taken and he could be assured of taking the lowest amount.
Sam was at a disadvantage going first obviously. It's as clear as day.

Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292318)

As said before on here, again, Dexter wasn't lying. When he said he looked at the board to make a decision, and everyone said 'why didn't you choose 99,000 then' he clearly stated all he saw (as in all that was important to him in his eyes) was 4s and 8s. He scoured the board for those numbers. Not any others. It's possible to miss certain numbers when you're not actually looking for them...

And before anyone says that's a convenient lie, he was looking at 4s and 8s because it's his hardwired gambling mentality to go for superstition and lucky numbers. Hence going for 88,800, 8 is considered to be lucky to the Chinese. People are so determined to hate Dexter they just jump to unsubstantiated conjecture. As another comment had said before, you'd have to be a gambler to understand.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292329)

Are you really serious? :joker:

Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292327)

The numbers were random. He had no idea what the others had taken.

Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292333)

Makes a lot more sense that your spurious hatespeech.
He's an ex-gambler. He said he was going for those numbers. He went for those numbers. I don't see how you can't see this when it was presented to you.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292334)

He did. The amounts taken were gone. Again, he just had to look for the highest amount (100k) and go for the next highest amount NOT taken - 99k.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292348)

It makes no sense that he would do that. None.
I don't hate Dexter. He's a contestant in a gameshow and my hobby is commenting on what I see in that gameshow.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6292352)

I saw lots of 4's... £ 4'000, 14'000, £44'000...... he didn't like them 4's?

Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292351)

Those two amounts could have been anything. 100k I grant you would have been likely to have been there and subsequently taken, but he couldn't be 100% sure. He wasn't in there before to see the numbers before they were blanked out to him.

BUT that's not the point. He suspected a twist and in the knowledge of that, chose what he considered his lucky number out of a pool of lucky numbers - consisting of 4s and 8s - and hoped that by choosing something superstitiously lucky he would end up in a good spot. It paid off. He's a clever man and he must have realised that since this is Secrets and Lies, that there's a chance this task was bogus, and again, with that knowledge, relied on luck to see him through. That's the point. Be as nihilist as you want, but that's what he said, didn't lie about, and has been consistent about.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6292352)

I saw lots of 4's... £ 4'000, 14'000, £44'000...... he didn't like them 4's?

Originally Posted by Kaitel (Post 6292353)

Is it unfeasible that in a series of Secrets and Lies, that the BB team would go in and add/remove certain amounts from the board to confuse the pickers between each person? No, it's very likely in fact, so all this talk about see what has been taken means nothing. Just because they didn't, doesn't mean it wasn't possible and in Dexter's mind.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 6292365)

It doesn't matter what numbers were blanked out, the highest was still 99k and there were still other 90k numbers on the board.
And what he said was that he didn't see the 99k. In fact, he gave 3 different explanations, one after the other. I'm sure we'll get a video and you can refresh your memory. Then he ended by saying he thought someone would be selfless enough to take £1 and go - not him of course - when everyone said they didn't WANT to go. He's a con man, pure and simple. :joker:

Originally Posted by Antibinary (Post 6292360)

Your point is?

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6292202)

It is really hard to argue against all that post Jet and for goodness sake if Charlie could find the £99,000 board then it is beyond all belief that Dexter didn't see it.
They were pretty easy boards to see.

That is really where his argument fell flat on his face but prepare yourself for the backlash,good luck.:hugesmile: