How much did Sam's looks, age & hearing issues influence the vote?
 

Picture it.

Another male housemate who was 45 with no disabilities at all and who looked like Harry Redknapp (not Harry Styles) but who had behaved EXACTLY as Sam did these past few weeks

Same jokes, same comments about women, same amount of time in bed etc

Do you think HE would have won?

Honestly?

The fact is, Sam isn't a 45 year old man, so it's not worth picturing it.

Why not? Does that image not do it for you? :devil:

Well, it rather depends on the 45 year old I'm supposed to be picturing! Sam doesn't work for me at any age.

:joker:

It's just a hypothetical question and one that's worth asking

Do people vote just for housemate's personality or are they influenced by other factors such as their age, looks, disabilities, background stories etc ?

Well considering I'm a heterosexual male and I wanted Sam to win I can't really help you with your question.


Out of the girls I found Sophie the most sexually appealing but I never wanted her to win.

There was a huge amount of teenage girls on twitter saying they were voting for him because he was cute. If he was ugly as sin he would have had difficulty gaining as much support as he did, though the anti-Ginxter vote was pretty strong so he could have still won.

I don't believe his disability won it for him though. I'll be honest and say it probably was beneficial for him but if it was entirely down to that then SteveBB11 and MikeyBB9 would have won too.

Sam looks way younger than 23.

In fact if I saw him on the street I'd put him as actually 16/17 and not actually an adult.

There are loads of factors that played into him winning

• good looks/ harry styles looks
• looks young and angelic
• welsh vote
• deaf vote
• being seen as the good guy
• not doing anything to p*ss of voters whereas all other finalists had e.g. charlie's love triangle
• befriending Gina so not all her votes went to Dexter
• declaring 'feelings' to Gina knowing he was going to be rebuffed: "aww poor Sam"
• sticking up for unpopular Callum
• not just appealing to tweenies but older women when he romanced Jemima (loads of 30+ women fancied him)
• getting tasks that made him likeable e.g. joke task whereas Gina and Dexter got tasks that made them look bad e.g. Queen B and Magic task
• walking around with top off and having a surprisingly good body and a very good pout
• C5 determine to get him to win so editing out sexist offensive comments
• telling lies about nicey wicey 'Sophie' so that she looks as if she ignores him whereas in reality she constantly tried to get him out of bed in SH
• taking on Dexter in last 2 weeks and attempting to make him look bad
• not falling out with Charlie when Callum was angry with her
• being the 2nd lowest paid/ poorest housemate after Wolfy

Think its fair to say Sam played the deaf card throughout-if it wasnt for this he wouldnt have even got through the vetting process. He did bring his deafness up alot-made more of it that yer man Steve from another BB who lost an eye and both legs. He had a strategey-sell himself as a role model for young deaf kids and memorise alot of terrible jokes to make himself seem like a fun guy.

Lets face it winning a reality show wont really do much for deaf people-unless Sam donates a large chunk to charities concerned.Thats not to say Sam didnt do well considering his dissability,so if he is a decent bloke good luck to him.

Whether he does it or not is another thing but he has said he will give 25% to charity.

alex_front2 - that is some quality BB analysis right there !

Sam sure played a good game - and was dealt a helpful hand to play with by BB's editing, personal tasks etc.

eg - they never gave Sam the difficult choice to make someone 'disappear', just a comedy task with no such controversial fall out

Shame he never had the good grace to thank his voting public when he won or tip his hat to the other housemates for their part. Bit of good sportsmanship wouldn't have gone amiss, especially as he is supposed to be the nice guy..

And we all believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy!

Lol!;)

Don't you dare tell me Santa Claus isn't real? :bawling:


Who else gives my stocking a right good stuffing every Christmas Eve??!! :conf:

Santa is definitely real

I met him at my school Christmas fete.

Looked so much like the deputy headmaster, it was uncanny.

Yeh they do say Santa always looks like someone you know. One year he looked a bit like my Dad, which was a good thing too cos he was snogging the face off my Mum. It's a secret I've kept to this day....

Yes and i thought his behaviour was shocking on BBOTS.
He couldn't get an intelligible sentence out
He was rude about Dexter - when Dexter was mega nice to him when he found out Sam was the winner !
All in all he remained the cruse little s***e that her really is !

Shocking display of NO MANNERS:devil:

Yes and i thought his behaviour was shocking on BBOTS.
He couldn't get an intelligible sentence out
He was rude about Dexter - when Dexter was mega nice to him when he found out Sam was the winner !
All in all he remained the crude little s***e that her really is !

Shocking display of NO MANNERS:devil:

Hearing 88%
Age 9%
Looks 3%

yes,
you saw mummy kissing santa claus,
underneath the mistletoe that night
She didn't see you creep
Down the stairs to have a peek
She thought that you were tucked
up in your bedroom fast alseep!

:wink:

Welsh 70% ;)

I think his hearing affliction, youth, good looks and body all quite possibly contributed to his win especially by the younger teeny bopper female viewer. SteveBB11 & MikeyBB9 didn't have the youthful good looks and body that Sam has.

You might as well come out and say 'did he win cos hes disabled?' instead of trying to thinly veil your views.

Its as frivolous as saying did Sallie get evicted first because she has tattoos?

Ridiculous

He won

He won because he was the only regular, down to earth, honest, care free person that didn't feel the need to have chavy fights every 5 mins.

Get over it

80% Anti-Dexter vote
10% Disability
10% looks

no other reason to like the guy

He looks like a bloody hobbit!

Didnt watch his interview-didnt he bother to thank Callum? He helped him alot in there.

:shocked: You sang a Christmas song??!!

That's bad luck Tozzie, quick kick a black cat!

He won because voters voted for him to win over other HM's. They preferred him.
All the its just because of 'hearing loss' 'teen girl votes' or whatever claptrap they use is because they cant understand why voters didnt follow their favourite HM/s so they will pick any excuse for him winning other than people might have actually found him a nice bloke.

many people did follow my favourite housemate, in fact he did very well to get as far as he did. I was just saying I think many things contributed to Sam winning and not just the fact some saw him as a nice bloke. There are and have been lots of 'nice blokes' on BB but they don't all go on to win. It stands to reason there are going to be contributing factors

It wasn't me, it was Caudlehalbart pos/ting as me :hugesmile:

Some people probably voted because he was their cup of tea...others because they regarded him as the best of a bad bunch, others because they were impresed by the way he coped with the house under difficult circumstances, some because they liked his personality.

Why did dex come second? Why did so many vote for him? I daresay some because they thought he was cute, others because they thought he was the most entertaining, or the best of a bad bunch, some because they found him funny, and others because they were intrigued by his story/journey.

Same for most of the HMs. Different people vote for different HMs for different reasons.

I don't see how he played up the deaf issue really. He referenced it a few times. But he didn't seem to seek sympathy half as much as other housemates (Charlie with her constant tears and confusion, Dexter with his billy-no-mates- all-I-want-is-for-people-to-like-me-I-have-no-friends routine).

Everyone else talked (and talked and talked) about themselves, the issues they faced in life, the impact of those issues on them and what they hoped to gain from the BB experience. Was Sam supposed to stay silent about one of the most defining aspects of his life? What a double standard. So it's ok if people seek sympathy for the traumas they've had or the things their lives are missing, or the difficulty they're having with the emotional 'roller coaster' of the BB house, as long as anybody with a disability never mentions that. never mentioned how that is creating an extra layer of difficulty for them within the house.

Also: women over 35 fancying Sam? Fuhreels? My God that would feel like paedophilia.

I never could understand middle aged women going all gooey over Justin Bieber or Harry Stiles.

Excellent post .

Too old to fancy Sam.

Don't get the Harry Styles love at all, the Only thing I know about him is what my mate tells me as she has worked on their albums.

See past the deafness as hubby is deaf. Just don't see why anyone would feel sympathy.

All in all I liked him as he was a good genuine down to earth lad not pretending to be something he wasnt.:hugesmile:

Welsh vote and sympathy vote and BB team are corrupt who had money on SAM to win.This is why they painted dex on a bad light with love triangle when there was none.

:joker: :joker:

Corrupt lol. I guess they paid the crowd to all scream for Sam in the final too while they were at it. :joker:

Good post DanaC.

I wasn;t meaning Sam pushed his deaf issues I was meaning it is quite possible for people to feel sorry and it can and may, note I say can influence peoples votes. I guess this is something we will have to beg to differ on DanaC, I see it that his deaf issues quite possibly played a part in him winning, (not all of it) and you don't. I actually did feel sorry for Sam myself for his deafness, I'm not an ogre with no feelings. I consider myself a very caring woman, I take care of severely brain damaged people in my work. I am merely saying it how I see it.

I could never fancy someone of Sams age, he's a nice looking young man but fancy, urgh, like you say, it would be just wrong :nono:, but there are some older women who would I suspect :tongue:

I was referring more to what john said:

I can accept that there may have been people out there voting for him because he is deaf, if that's the issue that caught their attention. Likewise some will have voted him because he's a local lad, or because they liked his accent. But most/all housemates have something that differentiates them from the others and will hold significance for some of the people voting. There may well be people out there, who have had experience of eating disorders who saw something in Charlie that others might not get. And there may have been people who voted for Gina because she's a strong female, or because she's black. How many families out there with twins felt some sense of immediate kinship with Jack and Joe? How many just because they have 18 year old sons and so viewed the boys with some affection

They all have something that may draw a particular demographic. That's how it works. But that's fine, because that's how it works for all of them. For all the people voting for Sam because he was deaf, an equally committed group may have been voting for Gina as a black woman. or voting for Dex as an ex-gambler.

It had EVERYTHING to do with it. It had to. What else was there?

Yes he would still win, his competition was two people with genuinely awful personalities. 2 irritating twins and a girl who wasn't as funny as Sam.

Most people would win a final against these 4.

Doubt there'd be many of these! :D

hahaha. well, maybe not :p

I have a question then talking about sam he said he only got 70% hearing and in his vt he says he lip reads how can you lip read big brother