Isn't it strange about 9/11...
 

That despite it being such a catastrophic, life changing event which truly shocked the world... the media has never really focused on the people who hijacked the planes? I have no idea what those peoples' names are. Isn't that bizarre? Every year there is anniversary footage, anniversary documentaries etc... but the names of the people who committed such a heinous crime haven't been made forever infamous? Just struck me as odd, always has done.

Well there are 101 conspiracy theories, but it's undemocratic to discuss them so we best not.

Actually they have all been named and their backgrounds explored, but they have such forgettable names that they are now consigned to the Dustbin of History, who will even remember ONE of them in 5 years time?

Probably because they don't want to focus on it/give the cause airtime, and would rather concentrate on the lives that are lost/giving tributes to them I guess.

and yeah, the names are generally not memorable

I'm kind of glad I don't remember their names, they would probably love that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijacke...ber_11_attacks

15 were from Saudi Arabia. the other 4 were from Egypt, Lebanon, and the UAE.

They already had a far more charismatic villainous archetype waiting in the wings in the form of Bin Laden who could take all the media heat. The news wanted nothing to do with the more ordinary looking little brown people with weird names.

No doubt they are all cavorting with their respective 40 or is it 70 Virgins?

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~giri22m/cl.../hijackers.jpg

Atta looks cold as ice. The rest of them seem relatively cuddly.

I was going to say something really inappropriate about him and then remembered who he was and what we're discussing

What a fugly bunch of folk...

Because their motives weren't exactly mysterious. It's not like it came out of the blue. remember 9/11 was the SECOND attack on the WTC. The first one in 1993 by the same group.

Everyone already understands exactly why they did it and how they did it. They were just pawns in a much larger organization. So they as individuals are not really very interesting.

It's like asking why there isn't more interest in every husband that kills his wife. We already know why they do it, we understand that some men are just controlling jealous abusive assholes. It's really not interesting at all. The victims are far more interesting and the victims rightfully get more attention.

You're right, I just find it curious that these men aren't reviled in the same way that the likes of Al-Megrahi is, or people who infamously assassinated popular figures, like Sirhan Sirhan or Mark Chapman, for example.

It could be because they committed suicide during it, so in a way they were only weapons.

The only one I know is Mohamed Atta and that's because we learnt about his suicide note recently

Also there are way too many to be bothered with!

Yeah, I remember Mohamed Atta as well, but I'll have forgotten him by tomorrow, again!

Most people don't remember the names of everyone of the killers in the Manson family, but we all remember Charles Manson.

Al Queada is just OBL's Manson family.

i think you're right

plus there was 15 of them

19 methinks!

Whatever. There was a lot of them

19 is an odd number. surely there was meant to be 20, have they found the 20th hijacker?

also interesting that the 3 "successful" flights all had 5, Flight 93 only had 4, would Flight 93 have been successful too if the 20th hijacker was there?

some women too

and we invaded Iraq?

"invaded" is a bit harsh, i think the preferred term is "liberated". :wavey:

quit trolling in very bad taste:nono:

don't tell me what to do. :nono:

Yes he had been in Florida
learning how to Fly - But not take off or land.
Just fly straight etc

..I think that knowing their names gives them a kind of martyrdom, which they should never have for what they did and it doesn't change anything, so I don't feel the need to know a name...

I'm sure there has been a few documentaries about them on the discovery channel, giving details about one (or more I can't remember) took flying lessons before the attack there was more obviously but it was a while back and I just can't remember.

It's weird - people should actually pay them some attention, as it's their radicalisation that has the most to say. What makes well educated, and westernised Muslims do this? How Can they have been enjoying American strip clubs one day, then flying planes into buildings the next? Understanding that psychology is crucial.

..suicide bombings are the extreme of 'sheep behaviour' though so I'm not sure there is any psychology to try to understand because surely, they're 'mindless'....

That does these people a real disservice. There is no braver thing on earth than giving your life for a cause like that, even if you believe in an afterlife.

It's a really complicated issue, and is separate from the desperation of suicide bombers.

Shame that doesnt happen with other disasters tbh. Normally the rags cant wait to rip apart the people who did it, repeatedly. And often before they are even found guilty of doing it.

ATTA
was team Leader
Egyptian


He is the worst.
http://www.nndb.com/people/780/000028696/atta-80.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...in_airport.jpg
On the Evil day as went through Portland

..yeah, that is one way of looking at it, I can see that and I’m sure that psychologists have and will continue to do so...and certainly they must have been ‘fearless’ to do what they did or at least be able to overcome what fears they may have had, which ‘brave’ people obviously do...but to me, being brave would be a ‘hero’ and maybe they are heroes to their cause, but that cause extinguished the lives of many people and devastated even more lives..not people who were enemies in a war/conflict situation, a survival situation but lives of people who were just living their day in the way they always did and their families who loved them, expected them to come home that evening...children that will never grow to know a parent..that for me is ‘understanding’ that is deserved... if that does them a disservice, then what understanding of psychology to the families of those people and what they were about to do to them did they show..their empathy/compassion/their humanity was lost and buried underneath their cause and for me, with that, their rights to be understood as well....to have any bravery at all, would have been to have looked into the eyes of the families of their victims...

10 times as many people are killed by nursing neglect in this country per annum as were killed on 911....maybe we need some perspective and take a look at tragedies closer to home

War crimes happen regardless. We unnecessarily bombed the ****** out of Germany at the end of WWII, wiping out tens, if not hundreds of thousands of innocent Germans out of spite, and those hijackers believed they were at war.

I'm not sticking up for them, because it was a terrible act, but trying to understand it should be our first course of action, rather than George Bush blanketing out - "they hate us for our freedoms".

I'm not sure using WW2 as an analogy is the way to go on this one. It's quite a different thing.

That's because most of the so called terrorists named by the CIA are all alive and well, one of the many, many many inconsistencies with the official 911 story...!!!

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