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Jessica. 13-01-2014 12:59 PM

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Josy 13-01-2014 01:21 PM

This has been asked before, it would mean even less posting on the forum than there is now.

Z 13-01-2014 02:18 PM

I miss the karma system. It was essentially a thanks button - I'd love to see it brought back but with an additional feature that you could see which posts you'd been plussed or minused for. It would be anonymous, so you wouldn't know who had done it (although you might be able to guess) but you would see what people liked and disliked about your posts

Shaun 13-01-2014 03:04 PM

After all the so-called problems with karma (quite tame by today's, or 2010's, standards :laugh:) maybe it'd be better to reintroduce it without the minussing option? (Since that's the only one that could feasibly be abused). Positive karma for posts and so on.

Benjamin 13-01-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6613777)
After all the so-called problems with karma (quite tame by today's, or 2010's, standards :laugh:) maybe it'd be better to reintroduce it without the minussing option? (Since that's the only one that could feasibly be abused). Positive karma for posts and so on.

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Josy 13-01-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6613777)
After all the so-called problems with karma (quite tame by today's, or 2010's, standards :laugh:) maybe it'd be better to reintroduce it without the minussing option? (Since that's the only one that could feasibly be abused). Positive karma for posts and so on.

James was thinking of bringing it back a while ago I think, not sure if he still is or not.

Kate! 13-01-2014 05:12 PM

Yes to karma, just positive though as Shaun says. Negging would just cause aggro lol.

T* 13-01-2014 05:19 PM

Can we call it something othe than karma tho

Jack_ 13-01-2014 05:38 PM

The option to 'like' posts should have been added a long time ago, so yeah, positive karma only but on a post-by-post basis

And I really disagree with the notion that it would make people post less? :conf: just because I agree with a particular post now it doesn't mean I'll not add my own bits to the discussion

Jessica. 13-01-2014 05:44 PM

Does it really matter if someone clicks "thanks" on a post instead of saying "[2}", not a huge loss. :laugh3:

Shaun 13-01-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuda (Post 6614034)
Can we call it something othe than karma tho

I'm trying to think of a word like "appreciation" or "value" or "prestige" without it sounding a bit elitist... I'm sure whatever it's called some might moan about that but oh well.

Maybe call it something harmless like 'Post Points' (PP).

Kate! 13-01-2014 05:47 PM

Kudos?

Jessica. 13-01-2014 05:51 PM

This is just a random post from another forum that I spotted while googling something recently.
This is how it works there: Each post has a thank you button as seen on the bottom right, if you click thanks then the button disappears and your name appears underneath the post. Thanks count as the only way to receive karma and there are no negatives. They add to the stars under the names.

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Jesus. 13-01-2014 05:52 PM

Terrible idea. A reputation system should be a reputation system, but setting it up for rep-whoring won't add anything to the forum, especially when the same old faces, are ploughing rep into each other.

Shaun 13-01-2014 05:53 PM

Oh, that could be quite nice I suppose then (Jess.)

Marc 13-01-2014 07:14 PM

The Karma system had it's pros but it could essentially lead to people just targeting certain members and minusing them

Ramsay 13-01-2014 07:29 PM

The thanks system works great on another forum i use

MTVN 13-01-2014 07:30 PM

Don't really like the idea, feel it sorta puts pressure on posting making it more of a contest to see who can get the most 'thanks', would be endlessly abused in any arguments and stuff as well

Josy 13-01-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6614325)
Don't really like the idea, feel it sorta puts pressure on posting making it more of a contest to see who can get the most 'thanks', would be endlessly abused in any arguments and stuff as well

I agree with that and also don't see that many posts on here that would need a thanks tbh, what would it be used for someone posting a news article, or a video :shrug:

And even at that if you want to say thanks then just post a reply saying that and who knows maybe add a few other words that could lead to worthwhile discussion.

Jack_ 13-01-2014 07:40 PM

'Thanks' is definitely the wrong word, it would be a feature used to acknowledge good posts made in threads, so say there's a debate ongoing and someone enters with a post which would usually receive a few '[2]' or 'this' or 'good post', you could + it and show your appreciation. If anything I think it'd encourage people to make better posts and put more thought and effort into them

And if people really did just abuse it by plussing random posts or gifs or whatever idk (not that it would really matter anyway it's just a forum who cares) then get rid of it? It's worth a go, it's only a positive system

reece(: 13-01-2014 07:51 PM

I think it's a great idea, can let people know they're appreciated more

Me. I Am Salman 13-01-2014 07:54 PM

We should have + rating and - rating. don't keep it anonymous and that'll stop people abusing it, and don't make it count towards anything which will further deter people from abusing it

Jordan. 13-01-2014 08:13 PM

I don't really care but I'd use it if it was added.

Shaun 13-01-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6614325)
Don't really like the idea, feel it sorta puts pressure on posting making it more of a contest to see who can get the most 'thanks', would be endlessly abused in any arguments and stuff as well

isn't it...kind of...your job... to deal with that then...?

also who on earth would really get wound up about it?

Amy Jade 13-01-2014 11:48 PM

Don't see the point, it would probably just turn into just another a popularity thing

michael21 13-01-2014 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica‪ (Post 6613587)
So then we don't have to quote a post and say "this" or "[2]" if we don't have anything to add to what was said, I think it would make threads a lot cleaner and it's fun too. :smug:

[2]

Z 14-01-2014 12:00 AM

TiBB was a much calmer place when we had the karma system, we only lost it because of the server change I believe? It wasn't removed because it was causing any problems. There was an hourly limit on it I think, you could only plus or minus one post per hour. The site's fine without it but I think it encouraged people to make better posts when the karma system was around. Would be glad to see it return.

Josy 14-01-2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 6615479)
isn't it...kind of...your job... to deal with that then...?

also who on earth would really get wound up about it?

Well no it's not really not if the issue can be avoided in the first place, it's just another good reason why there doesn't need to be a thanks button tbh

For example someone posts a sarcy, condescending comment to another member, others that don't get on with said member likes the post just to bait then when it descends into an argument it's us left to deal with it.

Jordan. 14-01-2014 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6615563)
Well no it's not really not if the issue can be avoided in the first place, it's just another good reason why there doesn't need to be a thanks button tbh

For example someone posts a sarcy, condescending comment to another member, others that don't get on with said member likes the post just to bait then when it descends into an argument it's us left to deal with it.

I think you're looking at it from a negative point to be honest. That example can just as easily happen without a like system.

Jessica. 14-01-2014 04:13 AM

:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

Jessica. 14-01-2014 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6615563)
For example someone posts a sarcy, condescending comment to another member, others that don't get on with said member likes the post just to bait then when it descends into an argument it's us left to deal with it.

That happens already with people posting "[2]" or some kind of sassy gif.

Withano 14-01-2014 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6613632)
This has been asked before, it would mean even less posting on the forum than there is now.

More people would join the forum though.. cos it would be rad

Jordan. 14-01-2014 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica‪ (Post 6615729)
:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

-likes-

One of the main problems with this forum is the members hardly ever get listened to. The mods opinion is always correct and final. Chances are this thread will be getting locked soon despite it being a fair debate.

Ammi 14-01-2014 04:41 AM

..I think they have something similar on another forum I'm on...it's a 'reputation system'...I don't think that it's abused in that it's not for any negative/sarcastic etc posts anyway...mind you I think most people forget to use it anyway..well, I do...

Jessica. 14-01-2014 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6615748)
..I think they have something similar on another forum I'm on...it's a 'reputation system'...I don't think that it's abused in that it's not for any negative/sarcastic etc posts anyway...mind you I think most people forget to use it anyway..well, I do...

Yeah, it works on countless other forums, I don't see why it wouldn't work here.

Jesus. 14-01-2014 06:59 AM

Doesn't really make any sense why it's necessary. Can't people just appreciate good posts without the need for a thumbs up?

It will just become meaningless, and here's why: Stu or Jack or someone could write a really long, well thought out post in serious debates, whereas someone desperately trying to fit the word weave into their post will be in for far more reputation than the good post. It just adds to the dilution of quality.

You'll probably end up with a situation where posters are asking for reputation from others offsite, like they have done for votes in the popularity games on TIBB.

More importantly, it actually sets out a false hierarchy for any new members joining, which won't encourage participation or dissenting opinions.

Josy 14-01-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica‪ (Post 6615729)
:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

No need for the first comment in your post Jessica because tbqh that comes across as you getting childish because you can't get your own way.

The fact is a lot of the suggestions from members do get added, the twitter add on, new skins, smileys are a few of the top of my head but there's always something else being requested and just because it works elsewhere and you think it's a great idea for the forum doesn't mean we all have to agree.

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 6615705)
I think you're looking at it from a negative point to be honest. That example can just as easily happen without a like system.

That's probably true actually Jordan I just can't think of any real threads/ situations that it would be put to good use on tbh.

And I know some think well we could just remove it again but most don't seem to realise it's not as easy as pressing a butting in the control panel, the thanks button is an addon for vbulletin that would need to be installed by James then tweaked to run on the forum along with all the other addons then if it was to be named something else other than 'thanks' like someone else suggested then it would be the code that would have to be edited.

Atm I just don't see it being something we need on here.

Niamh. 14-01-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica‪ (Post 6615729)
:bored: The mods/admins act like they are brains surgeons or something, they are always against anything that MIGHT give them an extra post or two to delete every day, we never get anything slightly fun or interesting because "it would make more work for the mods/admins", well whatever, we could all easily give you a lot more work if we wanted.

Yes, we definitely know that Jess ............. ;)

Niamh. 14-01-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6615922)
Doesn't really make any sense why it's necessary. Can't people just appreciate good posts without the need for a thumbs up?

It will just become meaningless, and here's why: Stu or Jack or someone could write a really long, well thought out post in serious debates, whereas someone desperately trying to fit the word weave into their post will be in for far more reputation than the good post. It just adds to the dilution of quality.

You'll probably end up with a situation where posters are asking for reputation from others offsite, like they have done for votes in the popularity games on TIBB.

More importantly, it actually sets out a false hierarchy for any new members joining, which won't encourage participation or dissenting opinions.


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Z 14-01-2014 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6615922)
Doesn't really make any sense why it's necessary. Can't people just appreciate good posts without the need for a thumbs up?

It will just become meaningless, and here's why: Stu or Jack or someone could write a really long, well thought out post in serious debates, whereas someone desperately trying to fit the word weave into their post will be in for far more reputation than the good post. It just adds to the dilution of quality.

You'll probably end up with a situation where posters are asking for reputation from others offsite, like they have done for votes in the popularity games on TIBB.

More importantly, it actually sets out a false hierarchy for any new members joining, which won't encourage participation or dissenting opinions.

Very true also... it worked in the past on TiBB but then perhaps I'm being too optimistic that it would work today - it was a feature that we lost quite a few years ago so it's hard to really remember if it was ever a bad thing, I just remember it being a good thing because you would + posts that you felt added to the discussion and in my mind it encouraged people to make more thoughtful posts... I don't remember any of the bad stuff, perhaps because I want to remember it as a good thing...


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