He's a wife beater
 

And yet he has all this support? Honestly, I don't get it. The amount of times I see people stand up for women and domestic abuse and so many now support him.

He's not punched anybody in the house, I'm judging his house actions.

This is like when the other day there was that copied wikipedia page for Dappy, couldn't give a toss.

even judging him on his actions he's a nasty piece of work - amazed some people can't see it

Well he isn;t going to punch his wife in the house is he. But wow, I honestly cannot get over how people support somebody that has done this. I bet half of those that support Jim wouldn't for a second forgive Chris Brown for punching Rihanna or Saatchi for his actions towards Nigella. Domestic violence is domestic violence.

I have hated Jim since he walked into the house

Hated him before CBB anyway

Ben we know,he admitted it ,its in his past,Sam and Jasmine have also been violent,why nothing said about them?

Because I don't know about them or their past, feel free to make a thread. But Jim is the 2nd fave to win this show and I am honestly shocked that people are backing somebody who has hit their wife several times, even it was in the past, he still did it and more than once.

I feel the same about Luisa,although I draw the line at hating anyone I don't know,I strongly dislike her though,Ah well that's life.

How long ago did It happen?

I was one of the people on opening night who said I was going to judge him from what he does in the house but after reading the terrible things he's done I can't ever support him in there. I think he's funny at times but every time I think 'oh he's not bad' I picture him twatting his wife and it's like a red light.

His history is well documented so I dont feel the need to comment in this thread.

It's not even just that though. There are a million other things wrong about him and he's putting on an act in the house which I'm definitely not falling for

Thankfully as a country we tend not to eternally hold things against people that they did a good twenty years ago. Jim has been the first to admit in there on day 1 or 2 that he has had plenty of demons in his life, at that time he also spent years fighting alcoholism, why should we drag those things back up in order to judge him as a housemate?

I can't speak for anyone else but the reasons I like Jim are as follows:

1) I've never been into Celebrity Big Brother before, ever, so I've never had any kind of pre-house opinions of housemates to go on because I've never watched Celebrity Big Brother. On that basis, I just decided to judge the housemates as if they were normal people.

2) Most of the housemates revealed themselves to be deluded, despicable people within the first few days. Casey/Lee/Jasmine is pathetic to watch. Luisa's full of herself, bitchy and a cry baby. Evander had all sorts of insane Bible belt views. Dappy's been overtly sexist and horrible. Linda's been trying to provoke Jim into exploding which makes her look bad, not him. Lionel's been two faced and gotten into a few arguments. Liz, Ollie and Sam have remained in the background so it's been impossible to have an opinion of them either way. Jim is the only housemate in there who has been involved in the house without actually doing anything actively mean to anyone else in the house. By default, I like him more than I like most of the others. Plenty of others have had the same response; only they've chosen to support Liz, Ollie and/or Sam because by default they like them more than the others. For me, I like Jim the most because he's been entertaining without being nasty to anyone else.

3) Even though I have this prior perception of him and he himself has admitted to being a wife beater - I appreciate his honesty on that matter and I'd rather have my eyes opened to what a person is really like by observing them interact with other people, rather than relying on printed word one sided interpretations of them. I don't want to instantly judge someone and write them off without giving them a chance. I was put off him a bit when he admitted to Luisa that he's not been himself in the house; but I can only judge by what I've seen and because all of the other housemates have been either totally forgettable, not contributing anything; or they've been outright awful in the house, Jim by default is my favourite.

Didn't you say you weren't watching?

Because that is what we all do and that is the nature of CBB.

:worship::worship::worship:

He is just great, not interested in his past its now and in BB he's good.

We do?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...avile--010.jpg

I do since a few days ago

Kazanne, say your husband abused you several times, you would be able to forgive him and support him in something like this?

Don't see how that is comparable, Saville went his whole life sexually abusing dozens of young kids and got away with it, it's something that's only very recently come to light

Oh please you supported Conor

This just seems like an attack on anyone who supports Jim tbh.If you don't like him then just don't vote to save him.Who other people support is their own business,It's one thing to have an opinion of a house mate but to accuse people who like him in the house as supporting domestic violence is just plain wrong.

So in 20 years we will be able to forgive him? Yeah right.

What's that got to do with anything

I'm asking why people support him. No attack, I just don't understand.

Nobody knew about that until after he'd died - he managed to have a long media career despite the fact some people knew about his crimes but they were kept hushed up, so yeah, I'd say we do. People forgave Michael Barrymore when he was on CBB even though a guy died at his house and was found in his swimming pool; why shouldn't Jim be afforded the same chance? Either he blows it and everyone who said he was a horrible wife beater was right; or he proves himself to be different to what the public imagined and he's allowed to move past it. The fact he's admitted to what he did in the past surely shows some growth in him as a person? Acceptance is the key...

Again that's missing the point that Saville got away with everything he did and never repented for it, Jim has held his hands up to what he did, admitted he's had a lot of demons and has tried to fight them

Plus what Saville did is obviously on another level

He's dead though and people are still going on about it, that's not very forgiving.

Oh yeah I know what saville did was on another level, who even brought that up in here :laugh:

Sometimes I speak/post and I wonder if I'm invisible :laugh:

Why would anyone forgive a man who never had to face up to what he had done

Wonder is Jim's ex wife understands being beaten senseless then because it was so long ago

Benjamin, did Jim really beat his wife, please tell us more, sounds like groundbreaking stuff to me.

I appreciate your posts Zee, we just seem to be talking in one liners here atm and your posts don't meet that criteria

What, who said that? I thought I heard something.

I would leave him and be really pissed with him at the time .but if I saw he found someone else and was trying to change and be a better person over time I would move on and support him if he was trying his best,I do know what it's like to be to witness domestic arguments(not mine thankfully) but people see red men and WOMEN and lash out ,they shouldn't but they do,Jims admitted what hes done,and he's married again so hopefully this time he's changed,none of us really know the ins and outs,I would think he's been punished for it,why the need to keep punishing him?

Not really for me to speculate

This is what I want (And Zee's answers). I wanted to know why people are supporting him. Fair enough.