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reece(: 25-02-2014 05:49 PM

Uganda criminalizes being gay
 
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With the stroke of his pen, President Yoweri Museveni of Uganda defied science and world opinion to make lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people outlaws in his country.
“Homosexuals are actually mercenaries,” he said. “They are heterosexual people, but because of money they say they are homosexuals. These are prostitutes because of money.” Museveni added, “There’s now an attempt at social imperialism, to impose social values. We’re sorry to see that you (the West) live the way you live, but we keep quiet about it.” The “anti-homosexuality” law carries a penalty of 14 years for a first-time offense and life imprisonment for those convicted of “aggravated homosexuality.”
The world isn’t keeping quiet about the latest travesty against LGBT people in Africa. Denmark and Norway announced they were delaying or diverting aid. Secretary of State John Kerry announced that the United States was reviewing its relationship with the central African country, including $400 million in aid.
“This is a tragic day for Uganda and for all who care about the cause of human rights,” Kerry said in a statement. Museveni’s signature on the law and the motivation behind it show he doesn’t care at all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...zes-being-gay/
What kinda warped ass minds? :crazy: Shocking.

Jack_ 25-02-2014 05:51 PM

British asylum for LGBT citizens plz

Ramsay 25-02-2014 05:52 PM

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“They are heterosexual people, but because of money they say they are homosexuals. These are prostitutes because of money.”
http://i.imgur.com/qrEk7cq.png

Livia 25-02-2014 06:07 PM

Africa was the cradle of civilisation. Sadly, some countries haven't moved on much.

Tom4784 25-02-2014 06:08 PM

Hopefully enough powerful nations will end up snubbing Uganda and make them rethink this moronic law.

Let's see how much they want to demonise the gays when all the help and aid they get stops.

zakman440 25-02-2014 06:10 PM

What a ****ing disgrace.

Jarrod 25-02-2014 06:22 PM

Oh yes, I'm obviously gay for money.. :idc:

Vicky. 25-02-2014 06:26 PM

...because of money? How does that work then...

Jordan. 25-02-2014 06:29 PM

http://i54.tinypic.com/25gf9e8.jpg

Livia 25-02-2014 06:30 PM

So these people who are only being gay so they can be prostitutes... who's paying them, exactly?

Nedusa 25-02-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6732081)
British asylum for LGBT citizens plz

Oh yes ... Come to Britain and swap one type of discrimination (sexual) for another (racial) .

No thanks ... Stay in Uganda and fight for their freedoms there...!!

Black Dagger 25-02-2014 08:44 PM

I do suck cock for a few extra Ł20's

Niall 25-02-2014 08:55 PM

What a disgusting, bigoted, backward move.

Z 25-02-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6732106)
Hopefully enough powerful nations will end up snubbing Uganda and make them rethink this moronic law.

Let's see how much they want to demonise the gays when all the help and aid they get stops.

I completely disagree. Hurting the people in poverty isn't going to change anything. The politicians behind this are comfortably sitting at home wearing nice suits and deciding that gay people are criminals. Diverting aid won't affect them at all.

Shaun 25-02-2014 09:00 PM

This is a country that's still advocating 'corrective rape' so it's only the tip of the iceberg. Just... :/

Apple202 25-02-2014 09:05 PM

lol its uganda no1curr what they do

reece(: 25-02-2014 09:15 PM

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A Ugandan newspaper has named who it says are the country's 200 "top homosexuals" a day after widely criticised anti-gay laws were introduced.

The list, in the Red Pepper tabloid which carried the headline "Exposed!", featured some who have openly declared their sexuality as well as those who had not.

Prominent gay activists, including one who warned the legislation could spark violence against homosexuals, were named alongside a popular Ugandan hip-hop star and a Catholic priest.

The paper said: "In salutation to the new law, today we unleash Uganda's top homos and their sympathisers."

In 2011, prominent Ugandan gay rights campaigner David Kato was bludgeoned to death at his home after a different newspaper carried photos, names and addresses of people it said were gay in Uganda along with the headline "Hang Them".

"The media witch hunt is back," Jacqueline Kasha, a well-known Ugandan lesbian activist, tweeted.

Ben Byarabaha, Red Pepper's news editor, said they published the full names of only the well-known activists and had tried to use nicknames for those not publicly gay.

Others, such as a retired Anglican cleric who supports gay rights, are listed as sympathisers.

Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni
President Yoweri Museveni signed the bill into law
Mr Byarabaha has not given any details about how the full list was compiled.

Those taking part in gay sex face life in prison, under the 'crime' of "aggravated homosexuality" which also includes sex with a minor or while HIV positive.

The bill had originally proposed the death penalty.

The legislation also creates offences of "conspiracy to commit homosexuality" as well as "aiding and abetting homosexuality," both of which are punishable with a seven-year jail term.

Those convicted of "promoting homosexuality" face similar punishment.

The laws - which came just over a month after Nigeria passed a similar measure against gays - have been condemned around the world, although it is widely popular among Ugandans.

President Yoweri Museveni, who signed the bill into law, said it was needed because the West was promoting homosexuality in Africa.

And he rejected international criticism, saying other countries should not interfere in Uganda's internal affairs.

Mr Museveni also accused "arrogant and careless Western groups" of trying to recruit Ugandan children into homosexuality, but he did not name these purported groups.

Police spokesman Patrick Onyango said no homosexuals have been arrested since the president signed the bill but at least two had been taken into custody since politicians passed the bill last December.

US Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday's signing marked "a tragic day for Uganda and for all who care about the cause of human rights". He also warned Washington could cut aid to the East African government.
http://news.sky.com/story/1217198/ug...s-paper-slated

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Z 25-02-2014 09:26 PM

Jesus Christ

joeysteele 25-02-2014 09:36 PM

It is really sad to see these Countries going backwards. Full condemnation of this move is right to make and should be made very forcefully too.

GypsyGoth 25-02-2014 09:39 PM

:sad:

MTVN 25-02-2014 10:34 PM

It's ridiculous but not that unexpected, this bill has been knocking around since 2009 and homosexuality has always been illegal in Uganda since it was under the rule of the British Empire, this just gives wider measures to 'tackle' it. The Ugandan president has always been a disgrace as well, been in power nearly 30 years where he's carried out all sorts of human rights abuses and led a government that's always been corrupt, this is just another step to consolidate his power

Tom4784 25-02-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6732422)
I completely disagree. Hurting the people in poverty isn't going to change anything. The politicians behind this are comfortably sitting at home wearing nice suits and deciding that gay people are criminals. Diverting aid won't affect them at all.

Sending aid to Uganda is as good as advocating their various abuses of human rights. Stopping aid won't hurt the politicians but it'll hurt the people who can oust the politicians and demand change.

Until they change their ways I'd rather the aid goes to a country that isn't completely and utterly backwards.

Z 25-02-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6732579)
Sending aid to Uganda is as good as advocating their various abuses of human rights. Stopping aid won't hurt the politicians but it'll hurt the people who can oust the politicians and demand change.

Until they change their ways I'd rather the aid goes to a country that isn't completely and utterly backwards.

Or, more likely, the people will be in desperate need of food, drinking water and whatever else they need, see that the British are withholding those things because of something the vast majority of people probably aren't concerned with and think "**** those guys." Sending aid to Uganda is keeping those in need just about alive. There are far better ways to tackle problematic governments than by targeting the innocent citizens being oppressed by it. You wouldn't want benefits cut to people who need them the most in this country in order to get the government to do something else, so why would you apply that logic to another country? It's not like I don't get where you're coming from, it's just I don't see how you can think it would ever realistically achieve what you're hoping it would, when all it would do is hurt the people who need that aid and not change anything when clearly it's about ideology with these people, they fundamentally think being gay is a crime. They won't change their minds so easily.

Brother Leon 25-02-2014 11:15 PM

This honestly isn't shocking or surprising to me really. This is a large part of the African mentality unfortunately. It's not every African obviously, but this sort of thing is normal in that region. A few of my family members back in Nigeria see homosexuality as a crime and even think Jail is "too soft. Would they be different if they lived here? Perhaps, but even my Friend's parents in this country pretty much stopped talking to him when he came out.

Tom4784 26-02-2014 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6732592)
Or, more likely, the people will be in desperate need of food, drinking water and whatever else they need, see that the British are withholding those things because of something the vast majority of people probably aren't concerned with and think "**** those guys." Sending aid to Uganda is keeping those in need just about alive. There are far better ways to tackle problematic governments than by targeting the innocent citizens being oppressed by it. You wouldn't want benefits cut to people who need them the most in this country in order to get the government to do something else, so why would you apply that logic to another country? It's not like I don't get where you're coming from, it's just I don't see how you can think it would ever realistically achieve what you're hoping it would, when all it would do is hurt the people who need that aid and not change anything when clearly it's about ideology with these people, they fundamentally think being gay is a crime. They won't change their minds so easily.

You can't reap the benefits of aid from other countries while alienating a large part of them at the same time. If any lives are lost because of a lack of aid then it's the Ugandan government's fault for offending the nations that were offering them help.

We don't send aid to North Korea so why would we send it to another country that's neck deep in Human Rights abuse?

Samm 26-02-2014 08:21 AM

This is vile :bored:

Niamh. 26-02-2014 09:16 AM

So sad that this kind of thing is still happening in the world

Glenn. 26-02-2014 12:05 PM

“aggravated homosexuality.” :umm2:

Jesus. 26-02-2014 12:13 PM

Just to make this clear - this law was supported and pushed by the Christian right in America. They even helped write it for them.

Crimson Dynamo 26-02-2014 12:17 PM

They may have criminalised being gay but they have not taken steps to stop people actually catching gay. leaving that door ajar is remiss of them.

Redway 26-02-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6732847)
They may have criminalised being gay but they have not taken steps to stop people actually catching gay. leaving that door ajar is remiss of them.

Still a vile and totally backwards move.

Z 26-02-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 6732645)
You can't reap the benefits of aid from other countries while alienating a large part of them at the same time. If any lives are lost because of a lack of aid then it's the Ugandan government's fault for offending the nations that were offering them help.

We don't send aid to North Korea so why would we send it to another country that's neck deep in Human Rights abuse?

Do you really, truly believe that withholding aid to sting the general population who need it the most is really going to do anything to deter the Ugandan government? That manoeuvre is just begging to be spun into "look how evil the West are, they don't agree with traditional Ugandan values and want to hurt us" and stir the population into being angry at outsiders, not their own government. I just don't think that's a justifiable measure at all. The Ugandan government can't look after its population as it is, using aid as a good behaviour carrot stick is just as morally bankrupt as criminalising homosexuality in my opinion.

We don't send aid to North Korea because it's a hermit republic that we've never ravaged of its resources or enslaved its people. Not totally comparable but I get the point you're trying to make, it's just, as I said, I don't think withholding aid is at all appropriate.

Shaun 01-01-2015 07:13 PM

I never knew this was overturned in August :o

http://www.advocate.com/world/2014/0...-jail-gays-law

http://www.advocate.com/sites/advoca...A_WINSX400.jpg

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In a victory activists were unsure they'd get, Uganda's Constitutional Court overturned the country's draconian Anti-Homosexuality Act today, declaring the anti-LGBT law "null and void" because of a parliamentary technicality in how it was passed.

The court determined that when members of Parliament passed the law in December 2013, Speaker Rebecca Kadaga had not established quorum — a required minimum number of members present to vote — effectively invalidating the law.

"The speaker was obliged to ensure that there was a quorum," the court ruled, reports the Associated Press. "We come to the conclusion that she acted illegally."

LGBT activists, attorneys, and allies cheered inside the packed courtroom in Uganda's capital city, Kampala, when the verdict was announced, waving rainbow flags and raising their fists in victory.

Kasha Jaqueline, one of the nation's most prominent LGBT activists, a lesbian and feminist, and the founder of the country's first LGBT group, Freedom and Roam Uganda, was ecstatic upon hearing the ruling, according to her Twitter account. "I am no longer criminal today," Jacqueline tweeted. "We have made history for generations to come. Speak OUT now."

Notably, the court did not rule on the constitutional merits of the law, which imposed lifelong prison sentences on those convicted of "aggravated homosexuality," which included repeat instances of sexual contact with a person of the same sex (regardless of consent), and same-sex relations where any member was either HIV-positive, mentally disabled, or a minor. The law also required landlords to evict LGBT tenants or face seven years in jail, and required friends, neighbors, and family members to report known LGBT people to authorities or face jail time themselves.

The AP notes that the government can appeal the decision to Uganda's Supreme Court, or could pass a new antigay law in its place.

Frank Mugisha, one of the country's leading LGBT activists, executive director of Sexual Minorities Uganda, and one of The Advocate's "40 Under 40" honorees this year, told the AP he was pleased with the ruling, though nervous about possible backlash, as the law enjoyed widespread public support in Uganda.

After confirming that the LGBT advocates safely made it out of the courtroom — amid a swarm of press and antigay demonstrators — Mugisha and his colleagues took to Twitter to celebrate today's victory.

One of the plaintiffs who filed the lawsuit, a transgender man and self-described human rights defender, said that he was planning to "enjoy this moment fully" upon leaving the courtroom. He would "think about possible petitions and rotten eggs over my head across the road later," he tweeted. That same activist suggested that Mugisha, Jacqueline, and others be named grand marshals of Uganda's 2014 Pride celebration, which activists were already planning before the decision, but which will now likely be a celebration of thanksgiving, according to the activist.

And while the activists celebrated today's decision, they were also realistic that the battle is not yet won in the east African nation where homosexuality is still illegal.

"We welcome this ruling and Uganda's lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community can celebrate a small victory against oppression," Mugisha told The Guardian. "However, we are disappointed that the case was not heard on its true merits. The truth is that, not only is the anti-homosexuality act persecutory, it is also unconstitutional and illegitimate. This law has no place in our society, which values dignity, privacy and equality for all our citizens. Until the act has been dismissed on the substance of our arguments, we cannot rest easy."

"A ruling at this level represents an historic moment in the fight for the rights of LGBT people in Uganda, and we hope it will serve as an example for other countries in Africa and worldwide," said Human Rights First’s Shawn Gaylord in a statement. "We are deeply impressed with the hard work and dedication of our Ugandan colleagues who put their own lives at risk to seek justice for all. As the law is invalidated, we urge the Obama Administration to stay in close contact with the Ugandan government and civil society leaders to develop a plan for rolling back the sanctions it recently imposed as appropriate."

Similarly, the Washington, D.C.-based Human Rights Campaign commended the activists who brought the challenge to Uganda's Constitutional Court. "Today Uganda's Constitutional Court declared "null and void" the draconian and discriminatory anti-LGBT law that was enacted earlier this year, and we commend the courageous lawyers, advocates, and allies who stood up for the human rights of LGBT Ugandans," said HRC's director of global engagement, Ty Cobb, in a statement. "We also recognize that the ruling was based on the failure to follow parliamentary procedure during the law's passage, and that Uganda's Parliament could seek to once again further enshrine anti-LGBT bigotry into its nation's law. These past several months have shown that enacting such legislation can have very real and even violent consequences for LGBT people."
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