Street angels
 

Street angels are volunteers that aid people in many city centres who are too drunk to get themselves home, what are your thoughts on them? Have you ever been helped by one? Seriously considering signing up.

'Street Angels Leeds
Usually on Street Angels the first half of the night is really quiet. We walk around and chat to the door staff and we chat to revellers too around the city centre however tonight was a very different story. Just after we got going after 10 o'clock we started getting calls on the radio asking for our help. It was a busy night, we helped several people who were unconscious or not able to walk - we got them into ambulances or taxis and helped to save them from being assaulted or just on their own, stranded in the centre.

So many people get abandoned by their friends on a night out it's really difficult to understand why. Leeds - please make sure you stay with your friends throughout a night out - check where they are, call them or text if you have to - its not very nice when people are left on their own often with no handbag, no mobile phone and sometimes so drunk that they are unable to even say where they live, we had that tonight.

When you go out stay together and have fun'

http://leedsstreetangels.org.uk/

it sounds a really good idea on paper Kizzy and a kind one on behalf of the 'angel' but what if one of them turned on you?you just never know with people who are drunk which way they will go,so don't you be signing up we don't want you hurt.I suppose it's too much to ask for people to drink sensibly? yes I thought so:hugesmile:

I know but with 3 unis Leeds can get very messy :laugh: Don't worry I'll be fine, I'm a night owl anyway and think how good it'll look when I apply next year?

I agree with what Kazanne said, sounds like a nice thing to do, looks good on paper and a lot of the people helped would probably be grateful but then threres always a few that would get nasty so yeah there's some dangers involved.

Yes it seems a Great help.


Kizzy how would you stop some man wanting to kiss you?

"We are a Christian project"

Its a just a cover for a bunch of christians thinking they are being "godly" by helping people who are "drunk" so they can "save" them

Awful.

Same as always I just set my aura to 'deflect' arista :joker:

I'm not a christian, It's not mandatory.

I think you'd have to have a suicide wish to do this up in Aberdeen :laugh: but it's a very good idea

No neither is going to church.

If you want to make a difference join the police

They are just a pain for the police

If you have an overwhelming love of doing paperwork and not very much policing then join the police.

arista ! you'll just have to control yourself:hugesmile:

In what way are they a pain for the police? The police have better things to be doing than checking if the passed out guy in the doorway is still conscious; like separating the drunk guy who's trying to batter the other drunk guy for looking at him funny

That is a pretty stereotypical view that is inaccurate. paperwork is much less now due to the digital age but good records are very important.






Especially when fitting people up:devil:

It's well documented (way hey hey) that the police spend more time filing reports than they actually do out on the streets. Incident reports are time consuming.

I have a degree in Public Services so I could join the police.... but I also have a CCJ so I can't :laugh:
I don't think you know much about them trumpet, they are welcomed by the police, well in Leeds they are.

I do know quite a bit and know some people who do it. Its a total waste of time and misguided sentiment from people who think they will somehow save the people. Its arrogant christian nonsense.

Why is it arrogant nonsense? Do you not think deaths like that girl who fell off the bridge and drowned the other month are totally avoidable and something like Street Angels can help to reduce accidents like that from happening? And does it really matter if people are only doing it to make themselves feel better? They're still helping others.

What the feck are you on about? To link that poor girls death to some point about SA is ridiculous :nono:


I question if they are helping anyone. Who decides if someone is drunk? Do they want help, do they want some middle aged berk telling them about some made up claptrap about some god who will help them but watch 20,000 children die of hunger 365 days a year?

Its just too silly and is more about assuaging their christian guilt than helping anyone

in my opinion

How many people do you know who do it, and where do they do it....are they christian?
As I stated earlier I'm not. I don't want to 'save' people, just assist them if they're too intoxicated and or alone. What could be perceived as arrogant about that? I have been in that position before myself and believe me a friendly face would have been most welcome.

So how will you decide on who is so pissed that they need help or who is alone and needs help?

For the third time I am not a christian or a middle aged berk thankyou very much, zee is totally right in suggesting that her death could have been avoided if she had been identified as being at risk and at least escorted over the bridge.

And how would you have identified her as being at risk, its a theory that she fell in pissed but she could have tripped and fell or just jumped which is also very likely. Are you intending to stop everyone who goes over a bridge or just the ones who "look suicidal"?

'We patrol the city – centre from 10pm – 3am every Friday night, and we commit to being part of the team at least once a month.
We work in pairs and walk around the busy areas of the city wearing our hi – vis jackets. We build relationships with doorstaff, police and medical teams, and chat with people who are out and about.
We carry resources which help people out such as flip flops & water bottles, we give directions, help to reunite people with friends and/or possessions and aim to help people get home safely at the end of the night.
In particular we care for those who may have become vulnerable in the nightlife for any number of reasons.'

In other words sweet FA :joker:

How is that sweet FA, IF you get a girl off the floor and in a taxi home is that not something?

What girl, where?

Now your just being silly.

I find the name a little self-indulgent.

If their parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece that should be sufficient. Just who are they targeting and what do they think about todays youth?

I mean handing out flipflops is about as sickeningly happy clappy as I have heard.

Ghetto Grannies was taken :bawling:

Parents... now who's coming across as a hand wringer?
I would still consider it worthwhile, I appreciate you don't.

No it's not. If there were sober people about in the early hours of the morning whose job is specifically to make sure people who are too drunk to look after themselves get home in one piece, there's every chance deaths like that one could have been avoided. Yes, they are helping people. If somebody can barely stand up without support and has no idea where they are, they're evidently going to need help getting home. What happens when there's no one to help them? Why do you assume it's a "middle aged berk telling them up some made up claptrap about god"? Why isn't it a group of young people looking out for other young people and just making sure they get home? You're confusing religious preaching with assisting drunk people in getting home. Why does it bother you so much if somebody's doing it for their own Christian beliefs? If it helps them sleep at night and helps someone else get home at night then I don't really see what the issue is.

Im not having a go at you Kizzy but having seen these people in action I just question the need and motive. How do they select who to help, what is the real reason for them doing this at silly o'clock at the weekend?

We have police and ambulances for the real problems and everyone else just goes home, its a system that has worked for many years. They see young people drinking as corrupt and in need of saving .:conf:

Not everyone is an 18 year old going out on the town for the first time, living at home with their parents. Bad things can happen to you when you're drunk regardless of your age. Falling into the road and being hit by a car; falling off a bridge; getting into a fight; being sexually assaulted - the list goes on and on. They are targeting drunk people, you know perfectly well what the point of this is. If somebody's parents are fine with them going out and getting back in one piece, that's fine, but that doesn't always happen. Having a team of people looking out for potentially dangerous situations and making sure they don't happen is a good thing in my opinion. It's got nothing to do with judging "today's youth" and everything to do with safety. They could just as easily be looking out for a 40 something year old guy who's been in the pub and had way too much to drink, maybe he's been chucked out of the pub.

As for the flip flops thing - that would be for young women who wear high heels to clubs and then their feet hurt so they take their shoes off when they're walking around town and risk stepping in broken glass, vomit etc. You're being obtuse for the sake of it.

They want to help. Is that so hard to believe? They don't "select" people like it's some complicated process, it's just having pairs of fresh eyes patrolling the town making sure that people are okay. I've been assaulted twice by drunk people, neither times were my fault, both times were on main streets in the city centre. The police can't be everywhere. The police deal with crimes, not people who've had too much to drink, unless they're being problematic. A girl slumped in a doorway isn't going to be as pressing an issue to the police as the fight breaking out up the road - but an opportune mugging, rape, or even murder could just as easily occur as soon as the police pass that girl by. "Street Angels" are looking out for people, that's all there is to it.

Ok so define for me a drunk person? Do you mean someone in the actual gutter or do you mean someone swaying a little, or do you mean someone who looks a bit to one side or so you mean someone who is walking down the street with a traffic one on their head...what?

and how do you know that about women's feet?

I am not being obtuse I am just not agreeing with you so keep personal stuff out of the thread.

Someone in the gutter. Not someone who's clearly capable of walking, getting into a taxi and going on their way. There's a binge drinking problem in the UK and if you step into the city centre of any city in the UK at night you're likely to see people who are completely incapable of handling their drink.

Common sense.

I'm not being personal, I'm explaining exactly what these people do and you're deliberately trying to find flaws with something that just simply isn't flawed whatsoever. These aren't religious preachers trying to convert people to Christianity while they're drunk. They're just a group of people looking after people who need to be looked after.

Everyone else doesn't just go home though, some people get so drunk when they are out at the weekends they end up coming up of clubs and pubs and lying in the street throwing up and this isn't just young people so these street angels could help get them into a taxi and home and then police don't need to waste precious time escorting them back to the stations for the night and then ending up charging them with a d&d, girls go out to a club wearing impossibly high heeled shoes and then when they are drunk can't walk on them so the flip flops idea is a pretty good one, saves them walking home barefoot and standing on glass, nails and who knows what else.

I don't agree with getting so messed up on alcohol that you can't look after yourself, get home etc but a lot of people do it every week so even though I still think like I posted previously that there are dangers involved in volunteering for this king of thing, it still is a pretty good idea to help people that are worse for wear.