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Benjamin 19-03-2014 08:54 PM

Is being ruthless a bad thing?
 
Discuss.

Saph 19-03-2014 08:56 PM

in what way?

smeagol 19-03-2014 08:57 PM

if you want to be ruth and dont wear pink shoes it is. more is better than less

Vanessa 19-03-2014 08:58 PM

I'm not ruthless, but sometimes in life you need to be. I'm learning to be like that with people who have been consistently horrible to me. I still don't like being that way, buy then why should i be nice to mean people?

Benjamin 19-03-2014 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saph (Post 6762506)
in what way?

Well I always see people saying that being ruthless is a bad trait to possess but sometimes I think being ruthless is needed.

Kate! 19-03-2014 09:00 PM

Not always. Sometimes you have to be for self preservation. I'd find it hard to be ruthless as I'm a softhearted cow lol. But I can be in certain circumstance if it's deserved.

Kate! 19-03-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6762513)
I'm not ruthless, but sometimes in life you need to be. I'm learning to be like that with people who have been consistently horrible to me. I still don't like being that way, buy then why should i be nice to mean people?

Yes this exact thing. :hug:

Vanessa 19-03-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6762516)
Well I always see people saying that being ruthless is a bad trait to possess but sometimes I think being ruthless is needed.

I agree. Last wee i caught one of my work mates smirking at me. I snapped : wft are you looking at? you're always smirking! It felt good. :devil:

Toy Soldier 19-03-2014 09:03 PM

It depends on the situation. If it's a survival situation then it's entirely necessary sometimes.

These days unfortunately includes many work-based situations, e.g. if you know SOMEONE has to lose their job tomorrow and you know that you or your family will be in serious trouble if it's you... then you simply have to **** over your work buddy.

I don't think there's ever any need to take pride (or worse, pleasure) in it though, not if it's someone who has never done you any harm that's caught in the cross-fire.

MTVN 19-03-2014 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6762521)
I agree. Last wee i caught one of my work mates smirking at me. I snapped : wft are you looking at? you're always smirking! It felt good. :devil:

Maybe it was a friendly smile

Vanessa 19-03-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6762527)
Maybe it was a friendly smile

No, trust me, she's a bitch. Always making fun of people. And she's not the onl one. A lot of my work mates are like that.

Glenn. 19-03-2014 09:05 PM

I think its bad if you're ruthless all the time. I don't see a problem with being a little ruthless every now and again when needed.

MTVN 19-03-2014 09:07 PM

Yeah there might be times you have to be a bit ruthless out of necessity, but you shouldn't bask in your ruthlessness or take any satisfaction from it

Toy Soldier 19-03-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6762521)
Last wee i caught one of my work mates smirking at me. I snapped : wft are you looking at?

:shocked: where do you work that your workmates watch you on the toilet?? That seems unorthodox.

Vanessa 19-03-2014 09:08 PM

I only take satisfation if the person in question is an absolute cow.

Vanessa 19-03-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6762541)
:shocked: where do you work that your workmates watch you on the toilet?? That seems unorthodox.

It was while we were working.

smeagol 19-03-2014 09:10 PM

big difference between being hard or firm cause you got to me and being ruthless though. ruthless is stealing your ill home bound neighbours milk of the door step cause your too lazy to go to the shop lol

or saying your workmate is lazy so you get the promotion and he doesn't .
having ago at someone isnt ruthless .

Vicky. 19-03-2014 09:21 PM

Really depends on the situation

Marsh. 19-03-2014 09:24 PM

Bloody hell vanessa, your workplace sounds horrific. :laugh: How do you cope with a place full of arseholes?

Vanessa 19-03-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6762592)
Bloody hell vanessa, your workplace sounds horrific. :laugh: How do you cope with a place full of arseholes?

And i'm such a marsmallow. :joker: I've been nice to everyone. But most of them really don't deserve any kindness. They're a very rutless, cold hearted bunch.

Samm 19-03-2014 09:46 PM

I'm always ruthless & mean I find it fun most of the time but I only do it when I am at college to people that I don't like

joeysteele 19-03-2014 09:57 PM

Sometimes you have to be,sadly.

Vanessa 19-03-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam <3 (Post 6762649)
I'm always ruthless & mean I find it fun most of the time but I only do it when I am at college to people that I don't like

I'm starting to be like that at work and i must say, i am enjoying it. :devil:

Livia 19-03-2014 09:59 PM

Ruthless is okay so long as you don't crap on people in the process because they remember it. Focused is better... unfortunately, and especially in my previous job, if you don't have a penis 'focused' is sometimes just seen as 'ruthless'.

Kizzy 19-03-2014 10:00 PM

Well I wouldn't say it's a very positive personality trait, it's best to get by on your merits but it's helpful if you can recognise it in others and make sure you keep one step ahead of their game.

Marsh. 19-03-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6762683)
Ruthless is okay so long as you don't crap on people in the process because they remember it.

Isn't crapping on people the definition of ruthlessness though? A lack of care about others and all that.

InOne 19-03-2014 10:28 PM

If people get in my way then they have to be whacked. It's just business :idc:

lostalex 19-03-2014 10:39 PM

I don't like ruthless people. whether that makes them good or bad, i don't know, but i certainly don't care to surround myself with ruthless people.

I enjoy watching ruthless people get their just desserts. What goes around comes around.

Livia 19-03-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6762748)
Isn't crapping on people the definition of ruthlessness though? A lack of care about others and all that.

I guess that's one definition. It seems to me that in certain circles of business, ruthlessness in men is quite highly regarded, while it's frowned upon from women. This may be just my perception. I need thetruth to come and put me right on that one.

Marsh. 19-03-2014 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6762797)
I guess that's one definition. It seems to me that in certain circles of business, ruthlessness in men is quite highly regarded, while it's frowned upon from women. This may be just my perception. I need thetruth to come and put me right on that one.

:laugh: I look forward to his contribution in the morning.

Kate! 19-03-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 6762757)
If people get in my way then they have to be whacked. It's just business :idc:

D:

Marsh. 19-03-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 6762757)
If people get in my way then they have to be whacked. It's just business :idc:

In a horny way?

Vanessa 19-03-2014 11:44 PM

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/upl...ng-Day-GIF.gif They have to be whacked? :laugh:

lostalex 19-03-2014 11:55 PM

To me, ruthless means overly competitive people, people who want to win at any cost. It's okay to want to be successful, but success doesn't mean that everyone else has to lose.

Ruthless people don't try to find win/win solutions, they think that their success depends on destroying other people. Instead of trying to raise themselves up, they try to tear down everyone else.

Marsh. 19-03-2014 11:56 PM

Yeah, it's a lack of compassion for others.

Vanessa 19-03-2014 11:57 PM

I feel sorry for eveyone, except those people who are always mean to me.

the truth 20-03-2014 03:08 AM

its the worst trait we have as english people. we save to wallow in being cold and ruthless.....its something that shames me of being english sometimes.....stoicism is great, stiff upper lip isnt so great and when it becomes a cold ruthless detachment it fast becomes disturbing. Ive found in my travels people from other parts of the world seem far warmer than us in many places

the truth 20-03-2014 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6762797)
I guess that's one definition. It seems to me that in certain circles of business, ruthlessness in men is quite highly regarded, while it's frowned upon from women. This may be just my perception. I need thetruth to come and put me right on that one.

I think thats totally untrue. In fact Id say in general these days women are far far more ruthless

Ammi 20-03-2014 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 6762748)
Isn't crapping on people the definition of ruthlessness though? A lack of care about others and all that.

..yeah, a lack of compassion/heartlessness etc..I don't think that many people would be 'ruthless' with that actual definition but I understand what Livia means in that I think that if you work in a male dominated environment and one that is largely opposed to females in higher positions, then you have to be very focused and I think that is a more accurate way to describe it...

Ammi 20-03-2014 05:15 AM

..but no, I wouldn't say I was a ruthless person, I don't think many people are..in terms of my job though, I don't work in a competitive environment so I don't really feel any pressure like some people do...when it comes to keeping 'clutter' and stuff though, I am fairly 'ruthless' with not hanging on to too many things..


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