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Kyle 02-05-2014 07:28 AM

Trophy Hunting (your opinion)
 
What is your opinion on trophy hunting as a whole? The sporting concept of going out and hunting animals and sporting their carcasses as trophies?

Have you ever done it? Do you think it's deplorable or do you not care at all?

Might put a poll up after the forum closes for maintenance :think:

thesheriff443 02-05-2014 07:38 AM

to hunt an animal for sport is disgusting apart from fishing, in which you put the fish back.

Nedusa 02-05-2014 07:44 AM

Hunting animals for sport is obscene but hunting animals for food is OK.

But we don't need to hunt animals for food as we factory farm them and then slaughter them and them eat them and wear their dead skin.

But as long as we don't hunt them for sport it's OK

No hypocrisy there.....

Kyle 02-05-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6824715)
Hunting animals for sport is obscene but hunting animals for food is OK.

But we don't need to hunt animals for food as we factory farm them and then slaughter them and them eat them and wear their dead skin.

But as long as we don't hunt them for sport it's OK

No hypocrisy there.....

It's not really hypocrisy when one is to provide people with one of the primary functions of life and another is to satisfy nought but pure bloodlust.

thesheriff443 02-05-2014 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6824715)
Hunting animals for sport is obscene but hunting animals for food is OK.

But we don't need to hunt animals for food as we factory farm them and then slaughter them and them eat them and wear their dead skin.

But as long as we don't hunt them for sport it's OK

No hypocrisy there.....

we have beef mountains and yet people are starving to death.

Cherie 02-05-2014 07:55 AM

Fox hunting, Badger baiting, dog fighting, hunting wild animals as trophies, no idea how anyone gets any enjoyment out of any of it.

Nedusa 02-05-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 6824717)
It's not really hypocrisy when one is to provide people with one of the primary functions of life and another is to satisfy nought but pure bloodlust.

I think I am unable to get truly angry with people who hunt the odd animal for sport whilst we slaughter millions upon millions of animals everyday under the moral legitimacy of needing meat for food to survive.

Kyle 02-05-2014 07:58 AM

Listen before people think I'm one of the rainbow children or something I didn't make this topic because I am totally against killing and eating of animal flesh cos I'm not.

This is more about taking a rifle and popping out to the desert or jungle or whatever to pop off whatever giant menacing looking animal you can find from a safe distance then take it's head like your the creature from predator or something and pose for a picture with a great big beaming smile on your face.

Like that South African tv presenter woman who was in the news a few months back.

Nedusa 02-05-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 6824719)
we have beef mountains and yet people are starving to death.

Yes that is a whole separate debate.

Kyle 02-05-2014 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6824722)
I think I am unable to get truly angry with people who hunt the odd animal for sport whilst we slaughter millions upon millions of animals everyday under the moral legitimacy of needing meat for food to survive.

It's a different cookie altogether. If you want to argue the merits and wastefulness of animal husbandry that's fine and dandy but I don't see it as any form of justification for topping off animals because you feel like it.


Tbh I would be less against it if the people insisted on fighting the beasts more fairly. At least I can understand them to a degree, the sense of danger, achievement in tackling one of natures big beasts with nothing but a letter opener and a bottle of febreeze but seriously where's the sport in taking a rifle and popping them off from the top of a tree.

Nedusa 02-05-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 6824725)
It's a different cookie altogether. If you want to argue the merits and wastefulness of animal husbandry that's fine and dandy but I don't see it as any form of justification for topping off animals because you feel like it.


Tbh I would be less against it if the people insisted on fighting the beasts more fairly. At least I can understand them to a degree, the sense of danger, achievement in tackling one of natures big beasts with nothing but a letter opener and a bottle of febreeze but seriously where's the sport in taking a rifle and popping them off from the top of a tree.

I hate the idea of hunting animals for trophys and would always like the idea that you have to defeat the animal in hand to hand combat to claim that trophy. It probably wouldn't be such a popular pastime under those conditions.

Kyle 02-05-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6824727)
I hate the idea of hunting animals for trophys and would always like the idea that you have to defeat the animal in hand to hand combat to claim that trophy. It probably wouldn't be such a popular pastime under those conditions.

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Kate! 02-05-2014 08:21 AM

Yes I'm in the think it's deplorable camp. :(

If bloodlust is so strong, get all the murderers, child abusers etc out once or twice a year, take them to a hunting ground and cull the entire load of bastards :pipe:

Kyle 02-05-2014 08:34 AM

Poll!

Suze 02-05-2014 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6824727)
I hate the idea of hunting animals for trophys and would always like the idea that you have to defeat the animal in hand to hand combat to claim that trophy. It probably wouldn't be such a popular pastime under those conditions.

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Originally Posted by Katherine. (Post 6824735)
Yes I'm in the think it's deplorable camp. :(

If bloodlust is so strong, get all the murderers, child abusers etc out once or twice a year, take them to a hunting ground and cull the entire load of bastards :pipe:

Both good ideas.

Your micro pig siggy is so cute and cuddlesome :lovedup:

Crimson Dynamo 02-05-2014 08:46 AM

I would like to hunt trophy hunters

Kyle 02-05-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6824745)
I would like to hunt trophy hunters

Now that's an idea. Way better than my 'put snakes in the big brother house when everyone's asleep' idea. :worship:

Kizzy 02-05-2014 09:03 AM

Hunting for sport is barbaric imo.

Kazanne 02-05-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6824721)
Fox hunting, Badger baiting, dog fighting, hunting wild animals as trophies, no idea how anyone gets any enjoyment out of any of it.

This,some people have weird concepts of entertainment.

Livia 02-05-2014 09:18 AM

I think you have to be really strange to get a kick out of killing something for "sport". I am totally against blood sports of any kind.

smudgie 02-05-2014 09:19 AM

Hunting just for a trophy is wrong.
The same as killing elephants/ rhino for their tusks.

When it comes to little cute furry animals like rabbits then I have a different outlook.
Hunting rabbit for the pot is fine, it is food.

Farm animals are bred purely for food, leather, wool etc. if they had no use they would probably not still exist.

Kazanne 02-05-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6824727)
I hate the idea of hunting animals for trophys and would always like the idea that you have to defeat the animal in hand to hand combat to claim that trophy. It probably wouldn't be such a popular pastime under those conditions.

I agree,the cowards do it from a distance,bloody arseholes.I think I'de pay to see the hand to hand conflict:hugesmile:

Livia 02-05-2014 09:32 AM

Where's the sport in shooting something from hundreds of metres away with a high-powered rifle and massive scope? I think the worst thing for me are the places in Africa where they tether an animal to a tree and let some dickless, gutless excuse for a human being shoot it at close range. I don't want to go into details... but I watched a programme about it on telly and the sound the animal made as it was wounded a couple of times before it was killed haunts me still.

Me. I Am Salman 02-05-2014 09:34 AM

i had a big argument about it on twitter with these random rednecks, they kept stalking my tweets and mocking me though so I stopped replying

this was the last response

http://s29.postimg.org/n8tpilvnr/image.jpg

some people just aren't worth your time http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilie...es/shakeno.gif

Kyle 02-05-2014 09:38 AM

I'd argue it's almost cowardly. Your relying on a weapon that puts you at such a significant advantage you might as well be shooting tins of beans off a wall. it's no more dangerous.

If you seriously want to have any sort of legitimacy as a 'hunter' go out and fashion a spear out of whatever materials you can find out in the wild and take them on like the earlier hominids had to.

Livia 02-05-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6824779)
i had a big argument about it on twitter with these random rednecks, they kept stalking my tweets and mocking me though so I stopped replying

this was the last response

http://s29.postimg.org/n8tpilvnr/image.jpg

some people just aren't worth your time http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilie...es/shakeno.gif

There's probably not much else to do on his trailer park.

MTVN 02-05-2014 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 6824784)
I'd argue it's almost cowardly. Your relying on a weapon that puts you at such a significant advantage you might as well be shooting tins of beans off a wall. it's no more dangerous.

If you seriously want to have any sort of legitimacy as a 'hunter' go out and fashion a spear out of whatever materials you can find out in the wild and take them on like the earlier hominids had to.

It's not really supposed to be that dangerous though is it? It's more about the skill of the shot and the 'thrill' of the chase then putting yourself at risk

Also just because they keep the trophies doesn't mean that's all they've hunted for, most of the time they will put the meat to use as well if they can. I don't hunt, never have and neither have any of my family. Though I know quite a lot of country folk who do, one of my friend's dad is big into his hunting and does have some 'trophies' up but he also has a motto that 'never shoot what you won't eat'

Me. I Am Salman 02-05-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6824789)
There's probably not much else to do on his trailer park.

:joker::joker:

Livia 02-05-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6824790)
It's not really supposed to be that dangerous though is it? It's more about the skill of the shot and the 'thrill' of the chase then putting yourself at risk

Also just because they keep the trophies doesn't mean that's all they've hunted for, most of the time they will put the meat to use as well if they can. I don't hunt, never have and neither have any of my family. Though I know quite a lot of country folk who do, one of my friend's dad is big into his hunting and does have some 'trophies' up but he also has a motto that 'never shoot what you won't eat'

Personally I feel it should be the rule for hunters.

Although I worry for people who get a "thrill" from shooting a beautiful, sentient being from long range.

Kyle 02-05-2014 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6824790)
It's not really supposed to be that dangerous though is it? It's more about the skill of the shot and the 'thrill' of the chase then putting yourself at risk

Also just because they keep the trophies doesn't mean that's all they've hunted for, most of the time they will put the meat to use as well if they can. I don't hunt, never have and neither have any of my family. Though I know quite a lot of country folk who do, one of my friend's dad is big into his hunting and does have some 'trophies' up but he also has a motto that 'never shoot what you won't eat'

And if it isn't dangerous then I don't see it as legitimate. The only possible understandable reason I can think of someone possibly wanting to go out and kill an animal and take it's carcass as a trophy is to take it on in combat where the risk/reward ratio is at least semi balanced.

I have a 1.77 rifle and a Recurve bow so I'm aware of the thrill of lining up shots and hitting targets etc but I wouldn't turn them on animals unless I had to. I just don't agree with taking out a weapon that makes hunting essentially redundant. It's just wanton bloodletting to me.

Kazanne 02-05-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6824776)
Where's the sport in shooting something from hundreds of metres away with a high-powered rifle and massive scope? I think the worst thing for me are the places in Africa where they tether an animal to a tree and let some dickless, gutless excuse for a human being shoot it at close range. I don't want to go into details... but I watched a programme about it on telly and the sound the animal made as it was wounded a couple of times before it was killed haunts me still.

Oh don't Livia,makes me sad just to think about that.

Livia 02-05-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6824797)
Oh don't Livia,makes me sad just to think about that.

Actually, you're the reason I didn't say exactly what it was. I know how it'd upset you.

As horrible as stuff like that is, I think people should try to watch it because then the protest can be taken up.

InOne 02-05-2014 10:55 AM

I'm against it. And the fact they're usually so smug and proud about what they do infuriates me more.

Kazanne 02-05-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6824802)
Actually, you're the reason I didn't say exactly what it was. I know how it'd upset you.

As horrible as stuff like that is, I think people should try to watch it because then the protest can be taken up.

I remember years ago reading and article in one of the Sunday papers about a bull in Spain that had been hung from a crane by its horns and the description of it bellowing and the picture has stayed with me ever since , I could cry thinking about it,I do get very emotional over animals,I just don't get how anyone could hurt one maliciously,I am going to look a fool now,but I don't even like flies killed.:hugesmile:i do agree ,people should try and watch as it maybe would make them take note,we do bury our heads a lot I know,but it's so heart breaking sometimes.

Kyle 02-05-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6824864)
:hugesmile:It was all going so well

It's still gone well Kaz. :hugesmile:


According to my professionally conducted poll 8.33% of Tibb users and therefore the world confirm what we've known all along that it's all Josy's fault.

Kazanne 02-05-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 6824866)
It's still gone well Kaz. :hugesmile:


According to my professionally conducted poll 8.33% of Tibb users and therefore the world confirm what we've known all along that it's all Josy's fault.

lol,I cant be doing with spam,just pink,fatty and yuk!

Kyle 02-05-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6824867)
lol,I cant be doing with spam,just pink,fatty and yuk!

Get out of my thread with this blasphemy! :fist:


I will not tolerate spam bashing!

Brother Leon 02-05-2014 12:02 PM

If someone wants to do it then it got nothing to do with me.

Kazanne 02-05-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6824873)
If someone wants to do it then it got nothing to do with me.

But if we all thought like that Leon,people would be running riot ,sometimes we need to stop being apathetic and do something.

Z 02-05-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6824882)
But if we all thought like that Leon,people would be running riot ,sometimes we need to stop being apathetic and do something.

That's true and it does make me feel bad for not really paying it much thought. One of my friends has worked as a grouse beater a few times and it's almost treated as a novelty among our group of friends rather than thinking about the reality of what that means. I guess I think trophy hunting is wrong - seeing stags' heads mounted on walls is a bit gruesome when you think about it; as a city dweller for my whole life I suppose it's just never really figured into my daily life as something I've ever had to think about.


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