Originally Posted by InOne (Post 6886658)

Why do we care about people flipping burgers in the USA?

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6886661)

McDonalds is a HORRIBLE place to work. I genuinely used to go sleep and night hearing the machine noises.. and whenever I go there to eat I get flashbacks. And all for £4 something an hour.. my friend got paid double in his job, it was so embarassing.

they really do need to increase the pay, it's slave labour. feel so sorry for the people who work there all week in order to make a living, it's no life at all

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6051492)

I constantly just applied online and finally got a job (at McDonalds lol)

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6122252)

I ****ing work my arse off cooking and cleaning in McDonalds and only get £4.50 an hour

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6410710)

I was fired after 3-4 weeks

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6410818)

it was really busy and I was alone at fries and the floor was a mess, all covered in oil. I had no time to clean it though because you have to take your apron off / bring the mop from the backroom / place the wetfloor sign which would have meant customers' time being wasted. Bear in mind this was during Ramadan & I was fasting and that made me even more exhausted. The owner (my store is part of a chain of five other stores and he's the one who runs it all) just happened to visit (he was this really big, REALLY intimidating Iranian guy) and saw what was going on, then asked me how long I've been working there so I said 4 weeks (which is 8 days as I only did weekends) and he seemed really angry and next thing I know one of my managers calls me to the office, tells me to sign a sheet and hand in my uniform. o had to do it along with the super

I'm so glad I'm not working there, it was AWFUL. One week there was an upcoming inspection so they deconstructed all the cabinets and stuff in the kitchen and made me clean all the wheels with a brush and a bucket of soapy water. It had to be immaculate, I even spent up to fifteen goddamn minutes on some wheels. And even then it apparently wasn't good enough. Then they made me clean the insides of the metal cabinet which bruised and cut my hands a bit and this kind of excess cleaning was apparently going on the next day too so I called in sick lmao. I was like the only crew member who had to do it along with the supervisors and managers, which was really unfair. It was genuinely like slavery and all for £4.25 an hour.. did I mention that the supervisors treat you like ****. The only good thing about the job were the other crew members who were amazing, although one or two were quite bitchy and rude

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6886673)

a thrilling saga

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6886671)

McDs is a great job for a young person. Work hard, get many promotions, learn about life and get free food.

jobs a good un

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6887048)

Oh yeah. You can learn all about life... Working at McDonald's. :joker:

I fear that some of you have a slightly idealised understanding of the realities of working on the bottom rungs of these large companies. You are an ant amount thousands, the chance of progression is slim and more often than not, down to luck (being in the right place at the right time when a position opens up). Or of course, your ability to be female and willing to suck a fat greasy dick in for a £1 an hour promotion.

Because the lower level management positions in these companies don't pay much over minimum wage either.

Working full time somewhere like that is a miserable job and a miserable existence. A couple of days a week for a bit of pocket money, fine, but a full time "career"? No. It's dead end rat slog.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6887061)

If it was the only thing I could get, I'd do it. It doesn't have to be long term.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6887075)

Working in burger kind introduced me to drugs. I shit you not.

My manager used to have us on ridiculously long shifts everyday, like literally 16/18 hour shifts constantly (I was doing 100 hour weeks at one point :o Wages seemed amazing for a 18 year old when being paid for that many hours). And he used to give us all ecstasy and speed to get through them...

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6887075)

Working in burger king introduced me to drugs. I shit you not.

My manager used to have us on ridiculously long shifts everyday, like literally 16/18 hour shifts constantly (I was doing 100+ hour weeks at one point :o Wages seemed amazing for a 18 year old when being paid for that many hours). And he used to give us all ecstasy and speed to get through them...

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6887092)

WTF? :eek:

:laugh2: Sounds like a sweat shop.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6887075)

Working in burger king introduced me to drugs. I shit you not.

My manager used to have us on ridiculously long shifts everyday, like literally 16/18 hour shifts constantly (I was doing 100+ hour weeks at one point :o Wages seemed amazing for a 18 year old when being paid for that many hours). And he used to give us all ecstasy and speed to get through them...

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6887067)

Utter Bollocks


The Current CEO On McD Don Thompson
started at the bottom.


The Young Today are to sloppy
Get To Work
and stay at Work
Climb The Ladder




Feel The Force

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6887061)

If it was the only thing I could get, I'd do it. It doesn't have to be long term.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6887491)

" Don Thompson (born 1963) is the president and chief executive officer of McDonald's, succeeding Jim Skinner on June 30, 2012.[1][2] Thompson is an electrical engineer who joined McDonald's in 1990 from a fighter jet maker that is now part of Northrop Grumman. At McDonald's he designed robotic equipment for food transport and made control circuits for cooking."

" Thompson is a graduate of Purdue University and holds an honorary doctorate from Excelsior College. Thompson is a Brother of the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity. [2]"


CHECK YOUR FACTS Arista. "the bottom" indeed.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6887854)

My Facts are right

wiki - not enough on it.


He was on a Bloomberg docu.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6887061)

If it was the only thing I could get, I'd do it. It doesn't have to be long term.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6887956)

Whether it tells the full story or not is irrelevant - he is a skilled engineer, a university graduate and a golden ticket frat boy. To represent him as a "rags to riches" Cinderella story who clawed his way through the company from burger flipper to CEO, is a complete work of fiction.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6888033)

http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/ou..._thompson.html



He started Flipping Burgers
at McD
Ref: Bloomberg Docu

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6888466)

What are you linking to? Did you even read it yourself?

"During his 23 years at McDonald’s, Thompson has helped drive business results and global strategic innovation across the organization. Since joining as an electrical engineer in 1990, he has held a variety of key leadership positions within the company including Regional Vice President, Division President and Chief Operating Officer. Between 2006 and 2010, Thompson served as President of McDonald’s USA, the company’s largest business segment. Most recently as President and COO of McDonald’s Corporation"

He joined McDonald's as an engineer, a University graduate, nowhere near minimum wage. It says so on their own site. You just... Linked to it. He was not "flipping burgers"... He was probably on a six figure salary??

He was also at this point already fraternity. If you don't know what that means, then you're more naive than I'd given you credit for.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6888518)

This idea of doubling the wage though..its ridiculous. Imagine if they did that here and McDonalds workers and such ended up on £13 per hour...it would be one of the most popular jobs going :joker:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6888518)

This idea of doubling the wage though..its ridiculous. Imagine if they did that here and McDonalds workers and such ended up on £13 per hour...it would be one of the most popular jobs going :joker:

I think in service based min wage jobs, the workers should get a bonus depending on the profit of the company though. Quite like wetherspoons do. My sister was working all hours on min wage which seemed bad, BUT she got a bonus each month depending on how well her restaurant did

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6888589)

Well, it would be pretty sought after if it was paying £13 an hour and the NMW was still £7ish. If ALL min-wage jobs were £13 on the other hand... I'd genuinely choose almost any other job over fast food service. In busy ones it looks truly horrendous.

Although, I'd rather do that than work for Aldi... they work their staff like dogs. I've literally never seen more miserable, frazzled looking staff, anywhere.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6888503)

Yes TS it was the former CEO
that started flipping burgers from the start
I am in Error.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6888636)

That's fair enough.

However, I would add as a final thought... why do you think there was a documentary about him? It can only be because his story is interesting... and it can only be interesting because it is so uncommon. Very, very few people ever rise through the ranks of a company like that. McDonalds has potentially millions of entry level staff worldwide, and only a handful of top-level positions... the likelihood of achieving that sort of success as someone starting on the bottom rung, is tiny.

You might as well say "buying lottery tickets is thew way to go - someone has to win, right?".

Hard work can play a part but it's a relatively small one when it comes to progression within a company, SO much more of it is down to making the right friends and kissing the right arses, and even more of it is down to simply being in the right place at the right time when an opportunity arises to progress. In other words; dumb luck. The vast majority of enrty-level McDonalds staff will simply never progress much beyond minimum wage (maybe duty manager / assistant manager level... still doesn't pay very well) no matter how hard they work or how good they are at the job.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6888674)

My friend got promoted to supervisor about 4 months after starting work at BK. However the wage was exactly the same, the only difference was she got to sit in the office doing basically **** all gossiping with the other supervisors/managers while everyone else had to take on her workload :bored: