i feel jale has fooled the public
 

i feel she is playing the victim. no way she let people 'bully' her in the outside world. her VT does come across she would stand up for herself and she letting pauline treat her like dog turd. she was evicted 6 times for a reason

I agree with you on this, but I would like her more if she was entertaining and not just playing up to the Pity Me game.

It's sad for me as I thought Jale would be more than she's actually been so far, I mean what is her best bits gonna be if she carries on at this rate?

not at all

I think it's possible. Either way she does nothing for me. Not even remotely entertaining.

Pauline, is that you ?.......................

she doesn't fool us:joker: public seem to remember Tamara's VT but not jale's! jale is acting different from her VT and emma described her as a "nightmare tenant" on show 1 when she was describing fridays housemates.and she just sits there looking moody acting victim

Yes and I'm Helen.

People wanted to remember Tamara's more because she was better looking.

No

I wish she'd fight back. Hence why I said yes. In her VT she said she was confrontational, she looked like the kind of person to take n Pauline. She's been pretty meek and may be using this to her advantage as opposed to being real and fighting back.

pauline is being harsh on her but Jale came across strong on her VT like she would stand up for herself

She's not fighting back because she knows she's up every week. She's playing it all extremely carefully. One wrong move and she's gone

how? i know you like her but come on jale comes across in her VT she can stand up for herself and WAS evicted 6 times for a reason. but she letting pauline treat her like s***

even if she does stand up for herself against pauline, the public wouldn't care

So people think it's okay for Pauline to behave like this ?.
Let's face it, no matter what Jale does in that house she is in the wrong.
She get's jumped on for every little thing in there.
If you don't like Jale, fine but that does not excuse the awful way some of them are treating her.
How can she fool the public ?. Has she made the housemates do this ?.

Exactly. The public hates Pauline and want he gone. :joker:

no me and others are not saying it's ok but Jale did come across in her VT as a strong person who can stand up for herself to anyone, and she letting Pauline bully her so people feel sorry for her

She must have Pauline says so !!!

I think its the killer nomination that's stopping her tbh.

EVERYONE acts up in their VT.
When they get in the house it's different.
She has so may people in there against her.
If she walks out they win. It's not like "real life" when you can just walk away.
If she spoke up they would all start shouting at her. Look how aggressive Steven can be ?. And Helen, could Jale really win an argument against that ?

Jale if she tried could definitely beat Crybaby Steven and Helen in an argument, she just can't be bothered because it takes her victim status away, how a lot of people can't see this is beyond me.

Jale is as tough as old boots and is playing for the sympathy vote.

I am going off her a little bit cos I really do think she is strong enough to stand her ground and not take any crap from Helen and Pauline. She should sit it out with the rest of the group, sitting outside in the garden on her own (well with Winston) is playing straight into their hands. Surely there are a few housemates she actually gets on with, she should gravitate towards them and don't let ANYONE force her into going around on her own with a moody face

This!

I'm not a fan of jale at all but I don't think she has a gameplan because she didn't exactly plan on being the killer nomination choice or making pauline's group dislike her.

don't think she planned to be disliked but i think now she is she is playing on it. which is fair enough and good on her. she's got a lot of support

i think i know what i have to do if i wanna stay in the house longer if i'm ever a housemate :joker:

Obviously she wouldn't have known that Pauline was going to go into the house, but she definitely planned on making the other Housemates be horrible to her so she would be classed as being a "victim" in this series.

Well whatever she is doing its working. Her main enemy is hated by the public and is going at the next eviction. In fact all of her enemies are imploding and making arses of themselves.

that may be true. she's certainly very different to how I thought she was going to be. I expected her to have some arguments but she's keeping herself on the low.

Jale is not playing a victim, that's like saying she is asking for it.

Also Jale does have a gameplan and I believe it's like Joe mentioned, to not get involved in any big arguments. She is up for nomination every week, so she can't afford to slip up and risk the public turning on her.

it's not saying she asked for it but she can easily have a argument with pauline and still survive evictions.

Oh come on Luke!...You've been posting long enough that you can't possibly be naive enough to think that anyone that enters the BB house without a "Game-Plan"! [with the exception of Mohamed bb 9]

....Of course she'll turn out to be a villain...but for now at least, i'm enjoying how her 'lil innocent gal' act is winding the two pantomime baddies.. "Poisonous Pauline and Nasty Helen" up!...Her time will come Luke!...so just sit back and enjoy the game for what it is my friend. :thumbs:

Cheers.

How is it? Thinking that someone is not being bullied is also not thinking that the other team are bullies to her so not asking for any of the bullying.

Pauline came across as a lovely lady in her VT, but she is anything but... Just because Jale came across as confident & as someone that would take no sh*t, doesn't mean to say that when confronted with a bunch of bullies she would want to kick off with them...

Now one really come out of BB arguments looking good. Remember Helen versus Danielle, both of them came across as pretty classless after that.

So even though the public hate Pauline, Jale doesn't need to risk arguing with, she has nothing to gain.

Playing the victim here suggests that Jale is manipulating the viewers by getting some type of pity vote. But people are actually being mean to her in there, that fact isn't up for debate.

I don't see what's happening in there as bullying. And I don't believe that in some way Jale is welcoming this treatment as some type of masochistic game plan.

Exactly!

its obvious she has a game plan she is the biggest player. the real jale wouldn't put up with that.. she is playing it. fair dues to her its a game and takes great restraint and cunning , but dont be fooled

i think we think the same things haha :joker: first with pauline now jale

No gameplan at all