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Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 07:50 AM

Just because Chris is one of the oldest + least attractive in there
 
and was slightly octracized because of it on night 1, does not mean you have to feel sorry for him at every given opportunity. it doesn't make him a saint, it doesn't mean all housemates must go out of their way to please him and it does not mean anyone who goes against him is a bully that deserves stoning.

let's say it was Pauline's name which was shouted from outside.. absolutely no way would jale be condemned the way she's being right now. in fact people would probably have condemned jale if she did conceal the information, accusing her of always pandering to Pauline

just why should Jale be expected to keep it to herself for Chris' benefit anyway? IT'S A GAMESHOW. the power housemate's at an advantage to everyone else in the house so of course they're all gonna want to get to the bottom of who it is, especially when the PH makes decisions at their expense. coupled with the unnatural levels of paranoia in there it only makes sense for Jale to do what she did. her actions were nothing personal. if the roles were switched and Chris was the one who blabbed, I'd bet a lot of money people on this site would defend him and be all He Was Just a Thinking Of The Others

getting really, really fed up of the extremely fickle and songs of praise mentality on here. what chance does the show have if even the supposed diehards have adopted the general public's way of thinking that has destroyed/come close to destroying so many series in the past?

MeMyselfAndI 18-06-2014 07:52 AM

Jale is disloyal and a liar soz

Winkie Expand 18-06-2014 07:53 AM

Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

rubymoo 18-06-2014 07:57 AM

If you say you're not going to say anything then you shouldn't say anything, Jale only blabbed because the information she was given made her feel important.

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

Agreed it is a game show...however i think the housemates have forgotten this!

Patricia4 18-06-2014 08:00 AM

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

This above I agree with.

HBB1508 18-06-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winkie Expand (Post 6951390)
Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

This sums it all up!

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 6951389)
Jale is disloyal and a liar soz

but bitchiness/two-facedness is everything the show is about?? s2g I don't understand why people want to watch BB but hate on the one thing that embodies it. and anyway for reasons I brought up in the OP what jale did wasn't two-faced for the sake of being two-faced, it was understandable. chris isn't even a friend of hers, why should she be loyal him? where was he when jale was supposedly being bullied? chris hasn't done anything to gain her trust

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 6951392)
If you say you're not going to say anything then you shouldn't say anything, Jale only blabbed because the information she was given made her feel important.

If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

Agreed it is a game show...however i think the housemates have forgotten this!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 6951394)
If Jale had kept the information to herself she'd have come across to the public alot better.

This above I agree with.

lmfao what? the BB house isn't meant to be some kind of finishing school. it's a trashy show geared towards people who thrive off trashy behaviour

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winkie Expand (Post 6951390)
Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

Um. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Pauline never 'stood out' from the rest like Chris did on the first night, he was never octracized. Perhaps you should next time read the rest of my post instead of the first two lines.

rubymoo 18-06-2014 08:36 AM

I thought it was a social experiment show, for us the audience to observe behaviour???

Maybe i should switch off then as i don't like trashy shows!

Verbal 18-06-2014 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 6951422)
I thought it was a social experiment show, for us the audience to observe behaviour???

Maybe i should switch off then as i don't like trashy shows!

It stopped being a social experiment after series 1 :joker:

rubymoo 18-06-2014 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 6951425)
It stopped being a social experiment after series 1 :joker:

True, that's when i stopped watching!!!:hehe:

Just restarted watching a few series ago.

I do find peoples behaviour fascinating:pipe:

MTVN 18-06-2014 08:44 AM

I see your point, though I don't think Chris being old and unattractive has anything to do with it really. It's true though that the whole concept of the power housemate is supposed to mess with them and even if Jale doesn't personally suffer from it it's still aimed at affecting all of them negatively by secretly elevating another housemate to a position of power over the others, by sowing seeds of doubt in all their minds and by trying to promote dissension among them, I don't see why she should be obligated to keep it a secret from the others when its something which doesn't really help any of them. It's unfortunate for BB and Chris that some randomer has spoiled it but that's just tough luck. Jale wasn't entrusted with a secret and it's not like Chris confided in her, she was just relaying something that could have been heard by any one of them after it got shouted into the garden

rubymoo 18-06-2014 08:46 AM

:puzzled:But she said she wasn't going to tell anyone!

MTVN 18-06-2014 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 6951436)
:puzzled:But she said she wasn't going to tell anyone!

People change their minds I guess, I think it was more stupid of her to promise that in the first place and start going on about how she wasn't a 'grass', it would only make her a grass if someone had entrusted her with that information as a secret but they didn't

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 08:53 AM

the edit just made it seem like she promised to stay quiet one minute and went back on her word immediately after

a lot of time probably passed for her to think about it more/things that didn't make the edit might have happened and swayed her thinking

Crimson Dynamo 18-06-2014 08:54 AM

Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

rubymoo 18-06-2014 08:55 AM

I just see it as Chris is doing what big brother has asked him to do.

It was unfortunate that some idiot spoilt the 'secret'.

It's just a game, so housemates need to lighten up.

And i'd rather Chris on my side than Pauline and Jale.

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6951435)
I see your point, though I don't think Chris being old and unattractive has anything to do with it really. It's true though that the whole concept of the power housemate is supposed to mess with them and even if Jale doesn't personally suffer from it it's still aimed at affecting all of them negatively by secretly elevating another housemate to a position of power over the others, by sowing seeds of doubt in all their minds and by trying to promote dissension among them, I don't see why she should be obligated to keep it a secret from the others when its something which doesn't really help any of them. It's unfortunate for BB and Chris that some randomer has spoiled it but that's just tough luck. Jale wasn't entrusted with a secret and it's not like Chris confided in her, she was just relaying something that could have been heard by any one of them after it got shouted into the garden

exactly
but chris being the oddball is definitely garnering him more sympathy, imo

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6951440)
Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

so you admit a double standard?

rubymoo 18-06-2014 08:57 AM

I like oddballs, they bring colour to the world! (and i don't mean that pervy!)

joeysteele 18-06-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6951440)
Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

Well said, absolutely spot on.

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 09:03 AM

this is about jale's behaviour though
you all are pretty much admitting what I said in the OP.. lolz

jyunga 18-06-2014 09:21 AM

BB told Chris not to let anyone find out.
Jale knows the shouting is the truth and hates that Chris is lying to her face about it.
He's kinda between a rock and a hard place but she's right about him lying to her face. It's a shame really cause they'll probably be good friends in there if it wasn't for him having power this week.

Jake. 18-06-2014 09:29 AM

:worship: agreed with pretty much all you've said

calyman 18-06-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6951440)
Chris has an attractive personality

Pauline has not

simples

My thoughts also.

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 09:41 AM

oh dear.. :unsure:

Gusto Brunt 18-06-2014 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winkie Expand (Post 6951390)
Um.

1) Pauline is the oldest, least attractive in there.

2) Not many feel sorry for her.

And Jale is a year older than Chris. And how does one judge attractive.

To me as a straight guy he has a lot to offer. He's mature, sensible, talented and intelligent.

None of the qualities you'd find in most of them if you look inside instead of outside.

Ammi 18-06-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyunga (Post 6951480)
BB told Chris not to let anyone find out.
Jale knows the shouting is the truth and hates that Chris is lying to her face about it.
He's kinda between a rock and a hard place but she's right about him lying to her face. It's a shame really cause they'll probably be good friends in there if it wasn't for him having power this week.

..that's quite a good summing up, jyunga...

smeagol 18-06-2014 10:20 AM

what is this propogander , dont sin chris to win. the rest need to go in the bin yes you can grin ding a ling a ling

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 6951594)
And Jale is a year older than Chris. And how does one judge attractive.

To me as a straight guy he has a lot to offer. He's mature, sensible, talented and intelligent.

None of the qualities you'd find in most of them if you look inside instead of outside.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6951597)
what is this propogander , dont sin chris to win. the rest need to go in the bin yes you can grin *ding a ling a ling



no relevance to this thread at all.

smeagol 18-06-2014 10:23 AM

quiet your giggle box and joing the chris fan club. you know you want to

Natalie. 18-06-2014 10:28 AM

I think Jale shouldn't have said she would keep it to herself if she was just going to blab it out anyway.

Gusto Brunt 18-06-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrissey (Post 6951615)
I think Jale shouldn't have said she would keep it to herself if she was just going to blab it out anyway.

Christopher kept to his word, though. ;)

Bluerang1 18-06-2014 12:57 PM

such truth tea

very wow

Iggy 18-06-2014 01:01 PM

I dont know about unattractive...

its true that we tend to rally behind the ones who are treated badly in the house, but I actually liked Chris the most in his VT before anyone was non accepting of him

would I rather have a session with ash? yes...but a relationship I would gladly go on a date with Chris and Im considered an attractive woman...Chris has alot of offer...

anyway....just sayin :)

Jordan. 18-06-2014 01:01 PM

stop moaning and let people have their opinions, that's what the show is supposed to create. FYI I went off Jale a bit because of what she did but I'm not exactly wanting her out because of it because obviously I can see she's good for the show. People CAN have a negative opinion on something that happens but still appreciate the entertainment rather than just blindly excusing anything they wouldn't agree with IRL

Me. I Am Salman 18-06-2014 01:03 PM

why tf would it make you go off her what she did was so minor

Iggy 18-06-2014 01:07 PM

It wasnt minor...the action itself was minor I guess, but she s a clever girl...she knows what area she is walking on, and that is stepping on others to make herself more popular in the house...its not what she did so much as what it symbolises

she was one of the outsiders and kinda made out that she accepted that place in society, but she has shown that really she wants to be in the ''in crowd'' and will step on others and go against her own ethics to get there

its not lying or being a grass......its igoring what she heard or being a grass...and she was a grass...boooooooo to being a grass

Crimson Dynamo 18-06-2014 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy (Post 6952002)
It wasnt minor...the action itself was minor I guess, but she s a clever girl...she knows what area she is walking on, and that is stepping on others to make herself more popular in the house...its not what she did so much as what it symbolises

she was one of the outsiders and kinda made out that she accepted that place in society, but she has shown that really she wants to be in the ''in crowd'' and will step on others and go against her own ethics to get there

its not lying or being a grass......its igoring what she heard or being a grass...and she was a grass...boooooooo to being a grass

http://destinysrehab.com/wp-content/...ee12.jpg?w=300

Jordan. 18-06-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6951998)
why tf would it make you go off her what she did was so minor

+ She's being annoying taking it so seriously and trying to expose the power housemate, it ruins the whole theme if it can't be kept a secret.


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