Housemates contact the recently deceased - Ashleigh exposes Helen and Kim
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foEqMHevuaQ

For clarification...

Ashleigh asks Kimberly and Helen...

"Would I be right in saying Helen and Kimberly were bitching/gossiping about myself and Danielle in the toilets"


Helen and Kimberly's response... "No that's never happened"


Note that on Digital Spy the people who don't like Ashleigh are deliberately leaving out the fact she included the word "gossiping" in the question and are arguing over the definition of the word "bitching". :laugh:

It did happen
Here is the clip

Yep, but as I said, there's some people (posters on Digital Spy) trying to make out that they weren't bitching. Imo they clearly were (I don't have a problem with that) but even if you try to argue about the definition of the word, the fact is Ashleigh asked if they were "Bitching/gossiping" about her and Danielle in the toilet.

Ashleigh is a bigger bitch than any of them. I know Helen is vile and her voice is grating and she is like a timebomb about to explode but Ashleigh has bitched constantly with Danielle with the last week. Fed up with her. Let the girls deny it. She can sod off

Well no actually. She's not a bigger bitch that someone whose abuse has been so aggressive and insulting she's had to be called to the diary room on countless occasions to be warned about bullying.

Yes we all know they bitch. That is not the point dear. The fact is Helen and Kimberly have just lied about it and been caught out doing so.

No one has a problem with them bitching, or even lying. It's just amusing to see them oblivious to the fact that Ashleigh already knew the answer, lying about the truth and then trying to put it down to Toya.

Why is Ashleigh pulling anyone up about bitching, she's the biggest bitcher in that house :umm2:

Nope Helen has that crown mate!

Coming from Ashleigh who hasn't spoken a single sentence in two weeks that didn't contain the word "Helen"?

So yeah we can add hypocrite to the ever growing list of descriptive words for Ashleigh.

No...Helen has bitched, she's nasty and aggressive etc but Ashleigh bitches with Danielle more than any other housemate.

She isn't pulling them up on it. She's merely asking if they were "bitching/gossiping" in the toilets about her and Danielle to see if they would tell the truth.

Not really. And even if she does, it matters little to the point of this thread.

Have I missed the episode where Ashleigh was truthful with the housemates about all of her bitching?

Surely you can see were my hypocritical comment comes in?

It actually does matter to the point of the thread because Ashleigh is interested to see if Helen and Kimberly will admit to bitching when she never does, again that's hypocritical.

Has anyone asked her? And again, why does this matter to the point that Helen and Kimberly have clearly been caught out lying?

Not really. Ashleigh is just messing with their heads. Not taking a moral stand.

Who cares if Kimberly and Helen lied? they aren't the only ones and if you need an example just look back at tonight's show when Ashleigh lied straight to Ash's face in the bedroom.

No, she's just messing with their heads and seeing what they say. And they lied to someone who already knew the answer, rather amusingly.

How is that messing with their heads? I think you are giving Ashleigh a tad too much credit tbh.

Those of us who find it amusing. Especially given that Ashleigh already knew the answer.

Who said they were?

I've no problem with people lying in this game. I just find it amusing that Kimberly and Helen lied to a question the person who asked it already knew the answer to. And are going to try to put it down to Toya's influence. :laugh:

Of course it's messed with their heads. They were taken aback at the question.

Ok..

Given that BB have been giving Helen a good edit since the start I think it's a bit unfair to say that Ashleigh is the bigger bitch when we haven't even seen the worst of Helen. Ashleigh could very well be justified in her actions.

Everything we discuss comes from what we are shown in the highlights and the clips we are provided with, don't really see why it should suddenly be different now?

And from what we have seen so far it's pretty obvious to me who the person is that bitches about the other housemates the most (I never said biggest bitch btw)

You are assuming that Helens been given a good edit too.

Of course she's justified. Even with the good edit, her main target (Helen) has been a loudmouthed, aggressive bullly.

Ashleigh and Danielle vs. Helen and Kimberly.

:joker:I love this post, totally agree with near it all,well said again.

Doesn't look like this part is going to make the highlight show - Complete with flashback video. That's a shame.

I've had enough of Ashleigh constant bitching. Lighten up, girl! :fist:

She's great. The only reason I'm still watching. :dance:

Ashleigh has delusions of grandeur and thinks she is above everyone else.the dork:hehe:

Sounds more like Steven.

Agree :thumbs:

No,it's Ashleigh I'm talking about.:laugh:

Josy why are you even changing the topic of discussion? Ashleigh asked Helen if they had bitched in the toilet and Helen straight up lied. But you haven't discussed that once, just discussed Ashleigh bitching on separate occasions not related to this incident.

I hope this is put in the HL's show, it will make Ashleigh more popular :clap1:

I discussed Ashleigh, Kim and Helen and those three were the topic of the thread. So transparent that more people talk about other completely unrelated housemates yet you quote mine :joker:

Can they hear them?

I think that OP will find that not many support her favourite housemate Ashleigh. I certainly don't care if Kim and Helen lied to her. There have been plenty of lies in that house. Ashleigh is a spiteful girl and is totally and UTTERLY jealous of the attention the two girls are getting specially Kim

. Any time I have seen her look at Kim she has a horrible look on her face as if she has just stepped on dog poo. If Kim had been nasty to her, spiteful, bitchy, or unkind in the first few weeks she might have had some kind of reason to dislike her but Kim was a friend to her and as in the case of Danielle a few nights ago when Ashleigh didn't want her talking to Kim, Ashleigh didn't want Kim mingling with Helen and the others either. I hope she is up for eviction soon. I will spend every cent I can afford to get her out of there

You were the first person to go off topic so I quoted you

I never went of topic like I said above.

Maybe you should concentrate more on what your comments contribute to the thread topic in future.

^Nah I just think you were going off on something completely different to what the thread was about. You haven't even mentioned the fact that Ashleigh was in the right in this situation and that Helen was lying.

What Ashleigh does at a separate time is a different matter IMO...