Gay cake drama in Northern Ireland!
 

"Bert and Ernie gay marriage cake refused by Northern Ireland bakery
Ashers Baking Company accused of discrimination after refusing to make cake featuring gay pressure group slogan.

A Northern Ireland bakery run by devout Christians could face legal action after they refused to make a gay-themed cake depicting Sesame Street couple Bert and Ernie.

Ashers Baking Company published a statement on its website defending its decision to refuse to bake the cake as the slogan above the puppets was in support support gay marriage.

Northern Ireland is the only part of the UK where gay marriage is still not legal. That ban is expected to face a legal challenge later this year, firstly in the high court in Belfast, with the possibility of the action going all the way to the European court of human rights.

In its statement, the company's general manager, Daniel McArthur, said: "The directors and myself looked at it and considered it and thought that this order was at odds with our beliefs.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...-ashers-bakery


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...2_2967282b.jpg

Gay puppets Bert and Ernie, yesterday

They should have agreed what the cake design was
and give it to them in a box covered up.

back door etc - Cash

back door etc? :joker:

yes more private

What if they ordered the cake and went round the back but there was no reply. Would they then have to smash the back door in?

lol

:joker:

Those Puppets are sooooooooooooo Gay........lol.







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I don't think this couple will have a leg to stand on tbh.The bakery did'nt refuse to serve the couple because they are gay,Infact the couples sexuality was never brought into it.They just refused to print an offensive(to them) message.Imagine if someone went in and asked for a cake with profanity or blasphemy on,They would'nt have to make it.I wonder what would have happened if this couple went into an Islamic bakery?

No as by phone
the owner would go to the back door
and get his CASH



Life In The City

For gods sake, bert and ernie are not gay.

That cinema is in my town. Nothing to do with anything but just felt like pointing that out.

You live on craggy island!? :D

a business can choose to not make any product it likes. this non story is a joke.

A gay joke or a straight joke...???




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wed better make it a straight one, gay ones are banned by the thought police.

Bert and Ernie are gay? :eek:

Bakery is found guilty of discrimination, too right :smug:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-31233797.html

Will they Close?

I wouldn't think so, I'm sure they were just find £500 or something

We'll have no talk of smashing back doors in on this thread LT:fist::whistle:

looks like god loves a good gay and not a prick who discriminates

They haven't even been put out by this... they have some kind of christian action group paying their legal fees and fines.... and now they have advertised themselves to the christian community and probably picked up loads of business

Leave them to it I say, atleast this ruling has set a precedent now, if they want to keep paying legal bills and fines, that's their stupidity and loss :shrug:

oh I agree... I wouldn't want them to be putout of business. that isn't the solution. But if I was a gay advocacy group set up in their area, I would probable send someone in every day to order a gay cake :hehe:

:fan:

That's a great idea.:joker:

Really glad however that they have had the court ruling go against them and the publicity that goes with that too.

Well then

The Angry Gay Activists
will start Stage 2

Yeah - So great an idea that if I was the cake shop owners I would close all 9 branches across Ireland and put all their 80 employees on the dole to prevent just such a probability.

Well good for that, they could of course sell the businesses and let people who weren't religious bigots provide the cake making service instead of them.
I say that from my Roman Catholic upbringing too, I hate the discrimination done in the guise of religion.

I would cheer if such prejudiced people lost their businesses.

Mokka: But if I was a gay advocacy group set up in their area, I would probable send someone in every day to order a gay cake

JOEY: "That's a great idea."


And I hate the thought of dickheads deliberately going into a cake shop to bait people who have now been rendered vulnerable and defenseless to such bullying because of a ruling by the Equality Commission - an organisation wide open to corrupt and banal actions by the PC brigade.

Lee is a Gay Rights activist who deliberately targeted these people to create a 'Test Case'. It was a 'set up' from start to predictable finish - as the statement from Lee's lawyer attests:

""It is difficult being a pathfinder in a discrimination case."

This dickhead could have simply taken his business elsewhere.

I have not spoken to one single GAY person out of dozens since this case started who does not think that a mountain has been made out of a molehill and that this could have been avoided.

This Christian Irish family did not refuse to bake the cake because of anyone being gay - they serve gay customers daily - so any talk of 'discrimination'is pure B.S.

Oh - and these decent people have as much right to be Christian as Lee has to be Gay.

Really? REALLY?

Religion is a choice but your sexuality is just part of who you are. You aren't born religious, you're indoctrinated into it. Comparing a religion to sexuality and saying they should be treated the same is incredibly ignorant. Religion's one of the main reasons why discrimination is such an issue because people use literature from thousands of years ago to justify their bigotry.

Religion doesn't need protecting.

You must have an incredibly deep seated hatred of the gays to think that putting so many people out of work just to spite gay customers who are giving you business is a good and reasonable idea.

As usual, you are jumping into a thread to 'take me to task' for what I have stated in a post, but as usual, you are MISINTERPRETING what I said and spouting rubbish based on a CATEGORICAL and DELIBERATE IGNORING of FACTS.

Why is it is ALWAYS night time when you jump in and SOUND OFF in this manner? Is it SAFE for you to INDULGE your PERSONAL PREJUDICES because the other - more equitable and rational Mods are OFFLINE?

Whatever the reason, your ACCUSATION that I "must have an incredibly deep seated hatred of the gays" is a deliberate false one in light of my many posts on here concerning my many years of friendship with hundreds of Gays, my enduring close friendship with numerous Gay close friends, my decades of patronage of Gay venues and Nightclubs from Heroes in Manchester to Heaven in London, the fact that I was a supporter and active Campaigner for the CHE - Campaign For Homosexual Equality - for many years -- through a time when Gays REALLY KNEW THE MEANING OF DISCRIMINATION.

So do me a favour, keep your tiresome, personal little attacks to yourself because you are lying in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

If you have anything logical to discuss I will be only too pleased to accommodate you, but until then stop lying and get your facts straight.

Coming to what you state, although I am tired of having to do this with you, I suppose if you GENUINELY cannot comprehend good English, then I must once again expound:

"to think that putting so many people out of work just to spite gay customers who are giving you business is a good and reasonable idea."

I never SAID close down the SHOPS and put 80 employees on THE DOLE TO "spite gay customers" - that's YOUR INVENTION again - I said to do so to avoid being bullied and baited by Gay people DELIBERATELY going into their shops to order DAILY, AS THE SUGGESTION WAS IN THE POST I WAS RESPONDING TO.

In simpler words; IF I WAS LAID VULNERABLE TO BEING DAILY BAITED AND EITHER FORCED TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST MY WILL OR BE CONSTANTLY PROSECUTED BECAUSE OF THIS COURT RULING, THEN I WOULD PROTECT MYSELF, CLOSE MY SHOPS AND SAY FECK THE EQUALITY COMMISSION.

GOT IT NOW?

GOOD.

Oh - and you're opinion that the type of 'Gay' customers in the context of my post would be "giving you business is a good and reasonable idea is nonsense if they are merely being sent in DAILY to place orders merely for baiting purposes.

Read the posts if you do not understand as much.

Yeah, I'm not reading that essay because I already know it's going to contain nothing but (not so) sly digs and random capitalised words.

What's with all the capitals and 'Gay' being a capitalised word :umm2:

It is actually a legal court that has found them guilty of discrimination Kirk, not the movement that helped bring the case.

In other words, under the law, they have been deemed to be and found guilty of breaking the law, not the original customers.


It could have been avoided definitely, they could have simply baked the cake, made a nice profit from it and left it all at that, they never had to personally approve of what was on the cake.
Just do what they do for everyone else,provide the service their business is for.

Agreed joeysteele... and in answer to my post... the law has been set and enforced now. If the shop owners want to keep their business open, which I am all for, then they need to bake any cake that is requested of them, provided it isn't pornography in cake form that is.
My point was that they have had huge financial backing from the church and haven't felt the sting of their punishment, so they most likely feel justified in continuing to turn away one certain type of customers over and over. If they are willing to admit that the law is binding in this situation, a gay cake a day should be like money in the bank to them. If not, then they still haven't learnt their lesson.