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daniel-lewis-1985 08-07-2014 11:47 PM

*WATCH* Ashleigh did not just sit there and take it from Helen
 
So its very annoying to have Judy ****ing James analysing an over edited clip and say Ashleigh retreated into herself and was terrified.

The actual unedited (watch below) clip tells a different story and shows Ashleigh very much stood up for herself. I don't know why it was cut because it was far more entertaining.


Hofman 08-07-2014 11:54 PM

Totally different perspective, fare play to Ashleigh! Terrible really that their airtime wasn't balanced fairly.

Jase. 08-07-2014 11:57 PM

"**** me, you're an absolute embarrassment"

Queen Ashleigh slaying :hugesmile:

Creggle 09-07-2014 12:00 AM

You have to look at it like this, either BB wants her to become the victim in the publics mind (who majority hate Helen) to help her this week.

OR

They could of shown the entire thing, given the public a chance to build respect for Ashleigh and the support of all the Helen haters.

I think BB wants her gone personally, giving Marlon the chance to save himself screwed her over completely, as she is now the main target, and editing tonights episode in the way they did has not given her the support she may need. I hope she doesn't go, because she's just perfect tbh, but she needs a bigger miracle than Ash got.

mooo 09-07-2014 12:01 AM

Eugh BB whyy

Hofman 09-07-2014 12:02 AM

Watched a few times now to catch everything.

Totally understand why Mark got on his soap box now.

waylander1973 09-07-2014 12:07 AM

Why does people here think last show edit did hurt ashleigh, helen just walk up and yelled at ashleigh and she stayed silent, mark and winston step in at some point and gave the impression that helen overreacted.

Alf 09-07-2014 12:08 AM

Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

Jords 09-07-2014 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ja$e (Post 7029413)
"**** me, you're an absolute embarrassment"

Queen Ashleigh slaying :hugesmile:

:joker:

Good to see a 'fuller' clip. Ashleigh handled it fine.

tbh I found Kim most annoying just sitting there yapping away

daniel-lewis-1985 09-07-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 7029433)
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

Im guessing you didn't take the 2 minutes to watch that 2 minute clip at the top of the page where Ashleigh tells Helen to **** of and calls her an embaresment then.

rusticgal 09-07-2014 12:46 AM

At the end of the day Ashleigh seriously needs to stay.....otherwise it's all about Helen and her gang...oh and the boring love fest....

andybigbro 09-07-2014 01:06 AM

Yeah they should have shown this

waylander1973 09-07-2014 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 7029433)
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

Personally swear I thought heard her start to break down right towards the end of the video, might explain why the mark and winston vs helen and kim happened.

Amy Jade 09-07-2014 01:33 AM

I'm a bit confused.

When BB showed Ashleigh saying barely anything people say she handled it with dignity.

When a clip shows up of her reacting and calling Helen back she is a hero?

The hypocrisy of it all.

Marsh. 09-07-2014 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StupidHoe (Post 7029587)
I'm a bit confused.

When BB showed Ashleigh saying barely anything people say she handled it with dignity.

When a clip shows up of her reacting and calling Helen back she is a hero?

The hypocrisy of it all.

Translation: Ashleigh's sh*t smells of roses no matter what. :joker:

ImBatman 09-07-2014 02:02 AM

Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

Amy Jade 09-07-2014 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImBatman (Post 7029610)
Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

Judi James is terrible though :(

Creggle 09-07-2014 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImBatman (Post 7029610)
Im more inclined to go with what Judi James says rather then some non trained person on here.

:thumbs2:

Jake. 09-07-2014 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StupidHoe (Post 7029587)
I'm a bit confused.

When BB showed Ashleigh saying barely anything people say she handled it with dignity.

When a clip shows up of her reacting and calling Helen back she is a hero?

The hypocrisy of it all.

Yet you called her a coward after being shown the edited clip, so where's your praise after being shown that she stood up for herself?

Gusto Brunt 09-07-2014 06:04 AM

Helen totally overreacted. She made an embarrassment of herself ranting away.

Ashleigh was more dignified. I never thought at any point Ashleigh was intimidated, but she did look a bit shell shocked. More to do with what BB had done showing the clips rather than Helen's pathetic rants.

Ammi 09-07-2014 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 7029682)
Helen totally overreacted. She made an embarrassment of herself ranting away.

Ashleigh was more dignified. I never thought at any point Ashleigh was intimidated, but she did look a bit shell shocked. More to do with what BB had done showing the clips rather than Helen's pathetic rants.

..I don't think it could have not been intimidating tbh, but I think she held herself together very well...

Verbal 09-07-2014 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 7029433)
Ashleigh was terrified, you could tell in her face and her nervous responses.

The girl was under attack from a loud mouth yob in front of a huddle of people.

She wasn't prepared for that and it caught her off guard which left her in a vulnerable position. It's a good job Winston stepped in.

But why would anyone want to get rid of Ashleigh now? even the people championing Helen, this was just the start, Ashleigh will fight back in time, she's no pushover. Why would you so called drama lovers want rid of someone at the centre of the drama?

:joker: yea ok

She's been exposed as someone who will gladly screw over anyone that stands in her path.

Gusto Brunt 09-07-2014 06:10 AM

If Ashleigh was scared of Helen she would have got up and ran to the bedroom and cried.

She didn't. She sat where she was. It was Helen who walked off.

As I said, Ashleigh was more shell shocked how BB had shown the clips. No way she Ashleigh scared of Helen.

Helen was a total embarrassment. I'm very surprised people see it any other way.

JTM45 09-07-2014 06:17 AM

I just couldn't believe Helen giving it all the "people will see you for what you really are and so will all of the other housemates...etc. etc.".

They'll all be too busy finding out about who you really are and what you've gotten up to in the past to even care about what Ashleigh (along with pretty much every other housemate in there) has said about other housemates behind their backs!
If they had showed everyone else's Diary Room rants about their fellow housemates Ashleigh's would have paled into insignificance ffs!!!! Helen's bitching and calling other housemates C,U en tees would have topped the bloody lot of them put together!

It just shows what a sh*tty show they're producing these days when the only thing they have left to resort to to stir up some footage is to show housemates supposedly private diary room conversations that were only shared in confidence! No wonder they get less and less DR footage from people year after year. You're pretty much guaranteed to have it thrown back in your face when they inevitably run out of proper entertainment!!!:bored:

They need to fire the bloody lot of 'em and start over with a production team that actually know how to produce an entertaining TV show!!!

JohnnyBB 09-07-2014 09:14 AM

They cut a lot last night the girls coming out screaming laughting at ashleigh helen takeing the piss out of her voice, kimberley allmost in tears by asleigh and the boys it was NOT a true reflection what we seen and im sure danielle stood up for her im sure of that, not to memtion helen going back in the house screaming shes an fing bitch

sampvt 09-07-2014 09:27 AM

You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

kefln 09-07-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 7029687)
If Ashleigh was scared of Helen she would have got up and ran to the bedroom and cried.

She didn't. She sat where she was. It was Helen who walked off.

Not the first time Helen has done that.

She walked off on Jale, despite the fact that Jale barely said a word. She walked off on Daneille. She walked off on Matthew, then followed him.

I think she needs to regroup if someone responds, even slightly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 7029687)
As I said, Ashleigh was more shell shocked how BB had shown the clips. No way she Ashleigh scared of Helen.

BB should never show the DR clips.

The DR is supposed to be a confident for the the HMs. Why would, could, a person open up and let BB know how they are really feeling if there is no trust.

If BB ask Ashleigh into the DR and ask how she's feeling about Friday, I hope she tells them to bog off. Because if they actually cared, the DR clip would never have been played.

HM's should learn from this. Talking to BB is only feeding them ammunition. The DR is supposed to be a safe place. It should be about the viewers gaining insight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 7029687)
Helen was a total embarrassment. I'm very surprised people see it any other way.

Helen has been an embarrassment from day 2. But people will always hate the pretty blonde more ;)

smeagol 09-07-2014 09:49 AM

That low life scum helen has really got a jealousy problem with ashleigh being 18. its the most craziest thing ever. never seen someone so obsessed with age. she acts like shes 70

Ellen 09-07-2014 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7029939)
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

This :thumbs:

smeagol 09-07-2014 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7029939)

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

nothing honest about her. bullying people is not being honest or real or whatever claptrap people say.

jackc1806 09-07-2014 10:07 AM

Hate when they edit things to create a different perspective

Northern Monkey 09-07-2014 10:25 AM

I blame Jale.Get her out now!

Jake. 09-07-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 7029685)
:joker: yea ok

She's been exposed as someone who will gladly screw over anyone that stands in her path.

So she deserves to be scrutinized for playing a game on a gameshow?

Miranda123 09-07-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO (Post 7029421)
You have to look at it like this, either BB wants her to become the victim in the publics mind (who majority hate Helen) to help her this week.

OR

They could of shown the entire thing, given the public a chance to build respect for Ashleigh and the support of all the Helen haters.

I think BB wants her gone personally, giving Marlon the chance to save himself screwed her over completely, as she is now the main target, and editing tonights episode in the way they did has not given her the support she may need. I hope she doesn't go, because she's just perfect tbh, but she needs a bigger miracle than Ash got.

I think you are wrong about producers, they knew that Ashleigh would press the button so they tried to save her, but my hero Marlon got there first

Marlon: Searched for the hero inside himself........and found it!!

Miranda123 09-07-2014 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 7029988)
nothing honest about her. bullying people is not being honest or real or whatever claptrap people say.

how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

Miranda123 09-07-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kefln (Post 7029961)
Not the first time Helen has done that.

She walked off on Jale, despite the fact that Jale barely said a word. She walked off on Daneille. She walked off on Matthew, then followed him.

I think she needs to regroup if someone responds, even slightly.


BB should never show the DR clips.

The DR is supposed to be a confident for the the HMs. Why would, could, a person open up and let BB know how they are really feeling if there is no trust.

If BB ask Ashleigh into the DR and ask how she's feeling about Friday, I hope she tells them to bog off. Because if they actually cared, the DR clip would never have been played.

HM's should learn from this. Talking to BB is only feeding them ammunition. The DR is supposed to be a safe place. It should be about the viewers gaining insight.


Helen has been an embarrassment from day 2. But people will always hate the pretty blonde more ;)

and yet if Ashleigh & Danielle/Chris had got to see DR chats, you would have loved it lol

#doublestandards

Verbal 09-07-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 7030229)
So she deserves to be scrutinized for playing a game on a gameshow?

Erm...yea:huh:

kefln 09-07-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miranda123 (Post 7030295)
I think you are wrong about producers, they knew that Ashleigh would press the button so they tried to save her, but my hero Marlon got there first

Marlon: Searched for the hero inside himself........and found it!!

Have to love how people "blame" Ashleigh for things she didn't do.

When your argument is weak, make things up :thumbs2: :joker:

kefln 09-07-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miranda123 (Post 7030305)
how is it bullying, when there is one person, having a go at another??

Jale said f..k all

Kim said f..k all

In fact mark & winston stood up for the little bitch even though she was having a row with Just Helen.............double standards much

If the little girl cant take it, she should not have entered a houseful off grown ups....hopefully she can go home to her Mammy on Friday

Can you please pick out the point where Ashleigh couldn't take it.

Or should it be pointed out that she handled the situation like an adult? Unlike Helen who could only resort to mocking accents.

Because when your argument is weak - make stuff up - like calling the more mature one "little girl".

:joker:

Kazanne 09-07-2014 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7029939)
You are all missing one very vital point....Did Helen back down.....answer is no.

Did Ashleigh offer anything except nasty rhetoric....answer is no.

Plain verdict, no matter how long the clip was is that Ashleigh got her arse wiped by an angry adversary and she learned nothing. She went straight back to closet bitching behind helens back.

When the day comes that Ashleigh has the balls to confront someone face to face, i will give her kudos. Untill now her greatest triumph, according to her fans, is that she stood her ground. Sorry but her ground was there because she is a sly little bitch that talks crap behind everyones back.

That my friends is the whole crux of the matter. Helen might be a wanker, but at least she is an honest wanker.

:worship::worship::worship:


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