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Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:13 PM

Is Chris an insincere person trying to win the public over in the DR?
 
That's how he comes across to me sometimes.

Kazanne 18-07-2014 10:15 PM

No , Chris is the only sane one in there , the voice of reason , a decent man with a brain and morals and so deserves to win.

Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7069971)
No , Chris is the only sane one in there , the voice of reason , a decent man with a brain and morals and so deserves to win.

Seems smarmy to me.

mrflibble 18-07-2014 10:17 PM

No, I just think he feels he can't really speak honestly to most of the housemates and needs somewhere to vent. He's a reserved person, so doesn't want the confrontation and he's also a polite person, so doesn't feel the need to get in people's faces or upset them. That doesn't mean he doesn't have opinions or feelings though and the diary room is the place for him to let those out.

lily. 18-07-2014 10:18 PM

I love Chris. I think he's the most genuine person in there.

Josy 18-07-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7070014)
I love Chris. I think he's the most genuine person in there.

Definitely this.

He says so much stuff both in the DR and to his mates in there that I would say myself, normally he is spot on with his judgement on the other housemates too.

Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:20 PM

I think he's a con artist personally. Always be wary of the people in the diary room

Shaun 18-07-2014 10:22 PM

I love how every HM who just goes to the diary room whenever they have a niggling problem is seen as sly or cowardly... like, can you honestly say that every time something happens you don't like you immediately jump in and make your voice heard? You never stew on it for a few days and say it behind someone's back?

I can only imagine trying to reason with Helen/Steven is like trying to teach a donkey to cook an omelette. I wouldn't want to have to tell them every time they do something I find objectionable either because:
a) I'd be nominated immediately
and b) I'd be talking 24/7.

MrWong 18-07-2014 10:24 PM

His opinions on the other hm's are spot on.

I like him.

Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7070050)
I love how every HM who just goes to the diary room whenever they have a niggling problem is seen as sly or cowardly..

They NEVER are. The diary room is the one place you can be a bitch without a problem. Chris is clever enough to know this.

Lister of Smeg 18-07-2014 10:29 PM

His Wisdom is unparalleled he is feeding the the fools crums at his feet and they devour it with great gusto :smug:

Shaun 18-07-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7070081)
They NEVER are. The diary room is the one place you can be a bitch without a problem. Chris is clever enough to know this.

You literally just made a thread about it, so...yeah... they are...

mrflibble 18-07-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7070081)
They NEVER are. The diary room is the one place you can be a bitch without a problem. Chris is clever enough to know this.

I don't see what the problem is. Why is it a good idea to bitch where there would be a problem? We've seen him talking to Ashleigh and Danielle about stuff a few times, and we probably don't get to see a lot more, so it's not as if he saves it all for the DR. Not everyone wants to cause problems and get into arguments, I would imagine I would also go to the DR to let off steam a lot just because I wouldn't be able to trust people in there. I love how restrained he is though, I'm quite reserved like him but I'm quick to anger and would likely end up losing it with the rest of that lot which wouldn't be any good for anyone. The fact that he takes himself away from all of that and saves it for private time in the DR is one of the things that makes him so obviously genuine and sincere.

I'm slightly biased with Chris because I'm friends with some of his friends so I know how they are and by extension have some knowledge of Chris, but I think is just a genuinely nice person.

icecakes 18-07-2014 10:35 PM

He,s a right misery, always moaning,he should marry ashleigh :joker:

Heaven = Winner 18-07-2014 10:35 PM

I like his opinions, but there's something about him that I really don't care for :/

Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7070150)
You literally just made a thread about it, so...yeah... they are...

Yes, but I am in the minority here.

I think there is something of the politician about him. I remember when Nick Clegg supposedly won the debate against David Cameron and Gordon Brown. He won it by looking down the camera lens and making people feel like he was talking to them at home. Chris does all of his bitching and character assassination in the diary room and I think there's something a bit insincere about it.

Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mrflibble (Post 7070172)
I don't see what the problem is. Why is it a good idea to bitch where there would be a problem? We've seen him talking to Ashleigh and Danielle about stuff a few times, and we probably don't get to see a lot more, so it's not as if he saves it all for the DR. Not everyone wants to cause problems and get into arguments, I would imagine I would also go to the DR to let off steam a lot just because I wouldn't be able to trust people in there. I love how restrained he is though, I'm quite reserved like him but I'm quick to anger and would likely end up losing it with the rest of that lot which wouldn't be any good for anyone. The fact that he takes himself away from all of that and saves it for private time in the DR is one of the things that makes him so obviously genuine and sincere.

I'm slightly biased with Chris because I'm friends with some of his friends so I know how they are and by extension have some knowledge of Chris, but I think is just a genuinely nice person.


I just wonder if what he's doing is essentially trying to manipulate the audience. That's what the diary room is for.

MrWong 18-07-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7070191)
Yes, but I am in the minority here.

I think there is something of the politician about him. I remember when Nick Clegg supposedly won the debate against David Cameron and Gordon Brown. He won it by looking down the camera lens and making people feel like he was talking to them at home. Chris does all of his bitching and character assassination in the diary room and I think there's something a bit insincere about it.

Not true. He has similar chats with Ashleigh, Danielle and Christopher.

karezza 18-07-2014 10:40 PM

He's a creepy fake but he isn't evil like Ashleigh.

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2014 10:40 PM

I would respectfully suggest op that you may be a poor judge of character

MrWong 18-07-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by karezza (Post 7070227)
He's a creepy fake but he isn't evil like Ashleigh.

:umm2:

Yaki da 18-07-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7070228)
I would respectfully suggest op that you may be a poor judge of character

Possibly. But I think someone needs to sound the alarm on this guy a bit.

What Bianca said tonight about him and Helen for example...

"I was worreid you were going to take Helen away from me"

Vomit inducing.

Me. I Am Salman 18-07-2014 10:51 PM

@Lily @Josy he's clearly not the most genuine one in there, lol. helen is far more honest and real than chris.. she just goes about it in a way you don't like. shouldn't let your hatred for her cloud your judgement.

personally i don't mind him on the whole but he has a bit of a superiority complex about him.

mrflibble 18-07-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7070278)
Possibly. But I think someone needs to sound the alarm on this guy a bit.

What Bianca said tonight about him and Helen for example...

"I was worreid you were going to take Helen away from me"

Vomit inducing.

Well he did spend 5 weeks trying to get her to actually talk and listen to him. It obviously takes him a long time to open up to people and he'd finally gotten to that point and then Biannca came in and tried to stir trouble and take everyone back to week 1. I think that's what he would've meant by that.

Josy 18-07-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 7070318)
@Lily @Josy he's clearly not the most genuine one in there, lol. helen is far more honest and real than chris. don't let your hatred for her cloud your judgement.
personally i don't mind him on the whole but he has a bit of a superiority complex about him.

:umm2: Have you ever read my posts about Helen? I defend her a lot on here.

rusticgal 18-07-2014 11:02 PM

Christ is totally genuine....he is very perceptive and he sees things for what they are. His analogy of people and their behaviour is spot on and he is so calm about everything.
He has backtracked on a couple of things and I think he does that as part of his gameplan....

He so deserves to win...

Yaki da 18-07-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7070397)
Christ is totally genuine....he is very perceptive and he sees things for what they are. His analogy of people and their behaviour is spot on and he is so calm about everything.
He has backtracked on a couple of things and I think he does that as part of his gameplan....

So he backtracks as part of a gameplan? How is that "totally genuine"?

Me. I Am Salman 18-07-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7070332)
:umm2: Have you ever read my posts about Helen? I defend her a lot on here.

the rules prohibit discussing members so I don't tend to keep track on people's opinions as a precautionary measure, of course

my actual point still stands though. he's nice, but not the realest.

Alf 19-07-2014 05:48 AM

Yeh bored of Chris now

His head went in the DR, he looked like a bit of an oddball, and not in a humorous way.

King Sing 19-07-2014 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7070029)
I think he's a con artist personally. Always be wary of the people in the diary room

Well put. It's been clear from day one like a bunch of other house mates.

No one here will agree with you until it's verified because they can't think for them selves. :dance:

billy123 19-07-2014 07:10 AM

No.
Chris has a brain on top of his shoulders and that seems to make some people feel a bit insecure.
Not everybody is at the level where they can only find entertainment in slags who wave their tits about or miserable little tramps who sit in corners bitching.

Chris is one of the most entertaining and witty people in the house.

waterhog 19-07-2014 07:42 AM

down to earth - feet on ground and humble - even when they said to him he apoligiesed which i don't feel he needed to.


i like chris.

GypsyGoth 19-07-2014 07:59 AM

I like Chris a lot, he is like one of us in a way. He watches the show from the inside and comments about it in the DR.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 08:07 AM

Another thing I would add... Let's say someone came into the house in BB1 and exposed Nasty Nick for what he was, a total sham. Would Chris have defended Nasty Nick? Would he have spoken about the unfairness of it all?

Why do people think Danielle was above and beyond being exposed for what she was? She pretended to be something she wasn't to the very people she was close to. That's not a good person, and it's something that was worth them hearing.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7071247)
No.
Chris has a brain on top of his shoulders and that seems to make some people feel a bit insecure.
Not everybody is at the level where they can only find entertainment in slags who wave their tits about or miserable little tramps who sit in corners bitching.

Chris speaks very highly of that "miserable little tramp". So is he wrong about her?

And he sits in the diary room bitching down a camera lens to the audience, behind people's backs, rarely ever standing up for what he supposedly believes is right in the actual house.

Patricia4 19-07-2014 08:10 AM

I like Chris and he was spot on with what he said tonight.

Yaki da 19-07-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 7071285)
I like Chris and he was spot on with what he said tonight.

What was he spot on about? He was wrong about Danielle. It was quite right for her to be exposed for what she was.

mrflibble 19-07-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7071291)
What was he spot on about? He was wrong about Danielle. It was quite right for her to be exposed for what she was.

No it wasn't. And it's not right that it's ok for her to be exposed and not Helen. If one person is allowed to be exposed, then they all should be. Their outside lives are irrelevant and as Chris said, he's judging her on the person she is in the house and as the person he lives with (as they should).

Yaki da 19-07-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mrflibble (Post 7071297)
No it wasn't.

Why not? Would you have objected to Nasty Nick being exposed as someone who didn't have a wife who died in a car crash?


Quote:

And it's not right that it's ok for her to be exposed and not Helen.
Why does everything come back to Helen? Forget Helen for a moment, Danielle was a fraudulent character and we all knew that.


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If one person is allowed to be exposed, then they all should be. Their outside lives are irrelevant and as Chris said, he's judging her on the person she is in the house and as the person he lives with (as they should).
How are their outside lives irrelevant? Is the fact Nick didn't have a wife that died in a car crash and he only said that to make himself sympathetic to the others irrelevant? Was it wrong for it to be revealed that Kim had a boyfriend and that she was withholding this important info from a man she was getting off with?

The person she was in the house was someone who was lying to him. And he wasn't interested in that. He was more interested in going to the diary room and putting on a performance.

mrflibble 19-07-2014 08:35 AM

I don't know who Nasty Nick is, but it's the same thing. And how come Helen should be forgotten about, but this Nasty Nick guy should be considered? They can come in as characters or themselves or whoever and that's all they should be judged on by the people in the house. Outside info should only be revealed at their discretion. It's supposed to be about a bunch of people in a house with no contact with the outside world, so yes, their outside lives are irrelevant unless they want them to be otherwise.


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