Chris is the most two-faced person in there...
 

He never says anything that he does in the diary room to their faces. He literally just sits on the fence and then when he goes in the DR he's like a different person :shrug:

yes, well, everyone who "sez it 2 ur face xx" ends up evicted by week 3, don't they toya hayden?

I'd be able to like him if he'd stick up for what he believes in and say more out of the DR instead of bitching in there all the time.

I suppose he plays the game in a less nasty way, and will probably stay longer for it.
Not that bad a gameplay really if it works.

He was worried Bianca was going to take Helen away from him :laugh:

Chris isn't any more two faced than the rest of them.

How is it two faced to keep a professional and tolerable relationship with people that you have to live with 24/7 and then talking about his day with BB in private? It's not like he's saying he loves everyone in the house and the going to the DR and saying he hates their guts. Look at Danielle being friendly with him in the house and then nominating him for eviction for some two-facedness. I do wish he would stand up for himself a little more in confrontations, but I understand why he doesn't because those people don't listen. He also said in his VT he'd probably apologize if someone punched him in the face and he's not really wrong...

This.

If you say so :pat:

No...it was clear what he was worried about and he also said himself he didn't like Biannca dragging Helen away to bitch about other housemates when they just had all finally started getting along.

Chris exposed how two faced everyone in the house is

Yeah I did say so since it was my opinion, isn't that what you made the thread for to get peoples opinions? :huh:

And some housemates have been a lot more two face than Chris has in the DR.

Wouldn't say two-faced, but I don't like how against confrontation he is (even running away from an argument that didn't even involve him, iirc) knowing that a show like Big Brother thrives on confrontation.

He was right what he said in the diary room about not exposing helen

I find it a little weird to call someone two faced for what they say in the diary room. I dunno, I guess I just feel like the diary room is a place to vent. It's called the diary room for a reason, it's a place to sort of record your personal thoughts.

You don't ALWAYS have to voice ALL of your opinions to people's faces. He rarely bitches about people.. Like he said the other day, twice he's done it in the house and both times it's been revealed in some way.

Basically, I don't think he's two faced just because he voices stuff in the DR and chooses not to voice it all the time. EVERYONE thinks things about people that they don't say to their face.. It'd be complete chaos if they did and it's pretty cruel. Not sure why "I'm a person who tells it how it is!!!" is considered such a positive trait

Or he's just a pleasent bloke who doesn't do confrontation?

I think your opinion is wrong, from what I've seen Chris is a different character in the Diary Room! :pat:

:joker: BOOM.

Anyway, I don't get the whole obsession with "say it 2 ma face xxx" like, that's not how people operate in the real world at all. Everyone talks behind each other's backs in there and quite frankly it's a much more peaceful route to take. If we had a house full of everyone telling it to everyone's faces we'd essentially have a house full of Helens which is a true post-apocalyptic nightmare.

Yeah, but it's the language he uses. It's smarmy. Like when he was confronted by Jale and he just meekly accepted he had done wrong and didn't actually stand by anything he had said at all.

Chris is to real for the fools in there :smug:

Did you see the full Youtube clip of that conversation? I felt like he held his own a bit more than the edit in the highlights

Watching people act differently depending on the room they're in is not entertaining. I want consistency.

Can you direct me to it?

He even has a chin for each face

To his defence it has kept him in, Toya, Pauline and Helen have proved being upfront is not favoured.

It's quite hypocritical that Chris' constant bitching is acceptable but it's different for any other HM.

We don't see it all though and I think he done well getting his point across to Helen the other day without things descending into an argument for example, they don't all have to get things out in the open by screaming and shouting at each other and like others have posted Chris doesn't seem the type to enjoy confrontation, it's also not good in the long run if you argue a lot as the evictees this year prove.

It's because he's a white male.

Not here for any chris shade

Bye

:joker:

You being racists :nono:

I agree with that. But to me it sometimes comes across as a man wriggling his way out of situations.

Yes I'm being racist.

There's no denying it's a great gameplan! It can't fail!

But I dislike how he's slating others off in the Diary Room for being fake or whatever, when he doesn't say any of this to their faces!

I'm not sure how to embed videos but here's the link http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBovTYXwtEk. At about 1:35 and 2:35 he's trying to explain his side and stuff but she just talks over him. If I remember correctly, in the highlights it basically just showed Jale having a go at him and him saying "yeah you're right I shouldn't have, sorry"

Bitching is just trivial gossip or insults, eg calling someone a slug. Chris doesn't really bitch, he just gives observations. He vents, he complains but he's not really insulting or mean.

He does very clever character assassinations in the diary room, knowing full well people are never seen as being a bitch or said to be saying things "behind people's backs" when you do it in there.

My alarm bells went off with Chris back when the men were facing the chop and he gave that speech about what a tough year he had. There's something smarmy about a man laying it on that thick in a situation like that. Winston turning it into a joke was a far more honest thing to do and Marlon's awkwardness was totally genuine as well. Chris? I just don't trust the guy.

Yes, Helen and Ashleigh don't get pulled up on their two faced bitching because they're white. Matthew didn't get pulled up on being an arsehole or Steven for being an are licking/two faced twat because they're white males. Jale wasn't completely torn apart after finally joining the group she was against.

It's only the black females Toya and Pauline that have been picked out. Oh, it must be about their skin. Bore off.

Chris and Curistopher are without doubt the most decent people in there in my opinion!
Everyone talks about other people in there. Chris just does the same but tries to do it in the way that will cause the least crap and arguments. Similar really to what Christopher does and again, Christopher is a really decent, good-hearted person!

What Chris said about Bianca and Helen was absolutely correct! Bianca was bringing in info from the outside with the sole intention of stirring things up and when she told Helen in the toilet they both bitched about Danielle. He was spot-on! :shrug:

Being non-confrontational, in my opinion, is a good trait. These gobsh*tes who try to justify their mean and bitchy actions by saying "i'm just up-front me. I just say things to people's faces instead of behind their backs" are just full of it. They still bitch behind people's backs, usually to a far greater degree than anyone else, but when they get drunk or get caught out they just use the same old "i'm just up-front" bullsh*t line to try and squirm out of the situation.

He is meant to give his opinions in the DR, they all are.

Yeah, when housemates are accused of being "two faced" it's not really about their diary room sessions. The whole point of the diary room is the housemates to give their thoughts and feelings on Big Brother, including those they choose not to voice in the house.

That's not the same as Helen bitching about Danielle or Toya bitching about Helen.

I wouldn't say any of them are two faced based on their diary room talks, as that's the purpose of it, to vent and talk. Bitching between themselves in the house is when they're labelled two faced.