I think they seriously rigged it when Matthew went home
 

I swear to god i was so shocked when he went home and he didnt deserve it. And he was so safe in polls.

He deserved it, and he went, end of!

Hopefully he can go out for a drink with Ashleigh this weekend, that would be nice for them both

It was a fix. BB is sponsored by Supercasino and the bookies made a lot of money when Matthew went instead of Ash.

It's too risky to rig votes I don't think they would bother

I'm starting to think it as well. No one as far ahead as Ash was on those polls has ever not gone out on Big Brother.

We've heard about this sort of stuff before. And though you might think people are all the more unlikely to do it because of what the fallout might be, I think these people are actually drugged up to their tits this year and don't know what they're doing.

I don't think the voting was rigged, but they messed about with the editing to the extreme. he got a much more negative edit than usual and ash (who the previous week was hated and not getting a good reception at all) was barely getting any airtime whatsoever.

I can see what you're saying about the editing - but even with that, Ash was a cert to go in ALL the polls. when someone is odd on favourite to go and then they don't, well, the bookies make a LOT of money.

Ash's fans were voting to evict Matthew like crazy people, all over his twitter they were posting screenshots saying the had voted 20, 40, 50 times each.

I think it is utterly hilarious that some people (hopefully a tiny minority on here) think that those who run BB actually care about who goes or stay. :D

They care about the profit the show is making - mainly from advertising and sponsorship.... and those deals are sealed before the series even starts.

They do not give a flying ***k who goes or stays.

I've followed Big Brother for years and have paid particular attention to the polls for all of them... I have never ever seen anyone get evicted when they were as far behind as Matthew was, campaign or no campaign. There was a campaign to save Ashleigh and that was reflected on every poll that had Jale going out.

The most reliable one is tellymix and he was no where near Ash that week. They called Toya going correctly, and they called Jale going correctly. Yet somehow they were that far out on that Matthew eviction? They called Pauline's eviction correctly within a percentage point.

Just think about what they've done this year...

After a campaign to Save Ashleigh by evicting Jale, they decide to take the public vote out of the eviction process altogether.

When it takes out Marlon and Danielle (though Ashleigh was in the running both times), they then have a vote for PH and tell us and her that she will be immune from this weeks eviction and be the most powerful PH yet. What then happens? She ends up for eviction.

This is beyond farcical now.

People keep saying this, but I don't know what's so difficult to believe about a bunch of pot smoking half educated media student twats doing this sort of thing. These people are not professionals. Aaron from BB12 spoke about what nasty pieces of work they were. Deana refuses to have any involvement with them at all after they told a blatant lie about her being informed about what Conor had said about her. They're amateurs, and horrible people as well.

Yeah you have mentioned all of that before.

None of it however proves in any way that any votes were rigged at all, which was the point of this thread, none of it proves that the producers want certain housemates out and certain housemates in and most of all none of it gives a reason as to WHY they care either way.

The votes for BB are monitored by Electoral Reform Services and the show producers and the tv channel would be in very serious trouble if any vote rigging was going on.

Also Toya and Matthew were also told they were safe and weren't it wasn't specifically thought up to target Ashleigh.

Matthew went because:

A. Ashleigh used him as a pawn and at the time she was unpopular and as a way for people to mess up her plan they voted out Matthew.

B. Ash fans noticed and used it to their advantage, he was the only one Ash had a chance against.

C. He wasn't very interesting, he's a slightly posh, camp know-it-all.

I wish people would give up on the conspiracy theories surrounding evictions. Why would BB rig the vote and risk utter ruin to save anyone?

Oh I admit, I can't prove it. And as for WHY they care. Again you're asking me to answer something only someone privy to their conversations could know. It would take a court of law with all the evidence to prove the motive. All I ask of people is to recognize how dodgy this show is this year.

We were told on the night Toya and Matthew became PH that one of them would face the public vote and they became PHs due to housemates nominating. I still think that was dodgy, but this is far worse... Not only have housemates been told they were immune, but we have voted for someone to be that PH and were told repeatedly afterwards that they were immune. They're telling flat out lies to us now after getting us to waste energy voting.

Do you not think something very dodgy is going on here this year? It's almost as if they are trying to infuriate viewers and run this show into the ground

No I don't think anything dodgy is going on that's the honest truth, I think they are doing everything they can to play up to the 'power' twist since they have made such a big deal about that the whole way through.

Also yes we were told that either Toya or Matthew wouldn't be as safe but they were told they were immune.

And again... Never, ever, has anyone that far behind on eviction polls, tellymix being the most reliable of the ones left, been evicted. They said it was close, and maybe it was, but I still think there's something worth looking into there.

It's not as if television channels and programmes haven't done this before.

As much as I dislike Matthew and was so glad to see him go, I felt really bad for him. He has to be the most unhappy person I have ever seen. Life is too short to be that unhappy. Good luck to you Matthew.:cheer2::dance::cheer2::dance:

I dont think they would risk it, what would be their reason? If they wanted to save ash, or get rid of matthew they would just manpulate the vote (as they have done to save steven numerous times)

Yakida, have you read Ash's twitter for the week he was against Matthew? his fans vote like crazy but that week they went mental with it, there was tons of screenshots being shared to show how much they were voting.

Yes, but you admit they are now lying to the viewers?

And you don;t think all this interference and constant manipulation despite viewers repeatedly saying they are fed up with it isn;t being done with some sort of strange agenda behind it?

It doesn't make you think "What the hell are they playing at" at all? Emma looked fed up tonight, Rylan was oblivious. It's very strange.

Josy... The same thing happened with Ashleigh and Jale, but all of that was reflected in the polls. Jale was way ahead on every one of them. Why wasn't all this support reflected in the polls with Ash like it was for Ashleigh/Jale?

I only see people on forums saying they are fed up with manipulation when it isn't going well for the housemates they support tbh myself included :laugh:

The viewers in general aren't annoyed because they are still watching going by the ratings.

They never really lied to us, only to the housemates but they also covered their backs by repeatedly saying 'No one is safe'

Lowest rated series on Channel 5 isn;t it?

I'm sure they told us repeatedly that they were immune. They did so in press releases and on BOTS didn't they?

But they asked us to vote for the PH without giving us these sort of details and letting us think that person would be immune like Chris was when he was voted PH.

I just don't know why fans of this show are defending them over and over this year.

Fair point about the poll but then people obviously went with that poll and thought Ash was a cert to go and never bothered to vote enough to evict him at the same time as his fans were voting like mad to evict Matthew.

Reading fb and twitter that week you could see there was lots voting for Matthew because they support Ash but then others (mostly on fb) were voting for Matthew because Ashleigh tried so hard to get Ash out.

Brilliant post Yaki da and spot on.

How anyone cannot see the blatant bias and unfairness is beyond me.

And how anyone can defend a TV programme getting people to spend money voting for a housemate (Ashliegh) to be immune from eviction - and then BLATANTLY rigging it so that the housemate is NOT immune - well, words fail me.

Offcom should really get involved in this one.

Not only is it playing nasty mind-games with Ashleigh, it is also lying to the public and getting us to spend money under false pretences.

Bloody wrong.

They never really gave any details about the PH during that poll though, wasn't it actually worded like 'If the power returned who would you like to get it' or something like that?

Did people have to pay for Ashleigh to be power housemate? I thought it was a free poll on a free app?

I don't have much sympathy anyway to be honest, Ashleigh fans who voted her to get power should have thought more about the negative effect it had on Toya.

No it was free and they definitely only worded it as a 'what if' too

Yes, but they did tell us afterwards they were all immune. Christ, Rylan was shocked when he found out on twitter. And as others have said, Emma looked fed up with it all tonight.

I thought so, again I find it hard to be sympathetic to those crying foul.

BB have said before the series even began power came at a price.

In response to Josy...

BB Spy tweeted this...


bbspy @bbspy · 4h

Verbatim quote from Channel 5 press release today: "All Housemates in the Alliance will be immune from eviction"

So people voted Ashleigh Power housemate. She was told she would be immune and be the most powerful PH yet and it was said on BOTS they were immune and the press release said they were immune. The BOTS presenter believed them to be immune.

Suddenly she's up for eviction. It's one thing to do twist after twist after twist... But they are now taking viewers/voters out of the eviction process and lying to them as well. Pathetic.

They said repeatedly that the power HMs were immune and gave out press releases saying the same thing.

They said Ashleigh would be the most powerful HM yet and people thought it might mean she could take Helen's free pass away.

Instead, she ends up for eviction. Farcical.

I know... it's odd when it was suggested I bet everyone went 'WE DO WHAT?!'

That was essentially Rylan's reaction on twitter. Emma seemed peeved about finding out about Kim on twitter as well (some people thought she was anyway)

Ah so basically the twist worked against you so it was a farce but had it worked in your favour it would have been fantastic.

I totally get it now.

The producers manipulated the voters to get Matthew out.

No, I couldn't have cared less about Marlon but I thought that was farcical. As well as the way Danielle went out. And now you can add this to the list.

The fact is they first take the viewers vote out of the eviction process and then when they ask viewers to vote they just lie to them afterwards about what they voted for. They told us repeatedly on the show, BOTS and in press releases that they were immune.

I just can't fathom why people are defending this crap.

If international football can be rigged to benefit the corrupt, then Big Brother would be easy! BB is small-fry compared to football.
So yes, based on the information we have, I don't think its a stretch at all to assume Mathews eviction was arranged so that some rich bastards can get even richer!

spot on crocodile. Some people are very naive and actually believe that TV companies 'play by the rules' at all times. And when you look at the shambles of the production team on this series of BB.... well, it's obvious they have no morals of 'fair play' or even honesty. Totally dishonest, totally corrupt and all in the name of 'it's only a game, and the more 'twists' the better' - substitute 'twists' for 'lies'.

They are fools, because they treat us the public like fools.

And some people are very surprised at so much conspiracies surrounding the voting when the votes are regulated and the tv shows and channels would get into a massive amount of trouble for even thinking of tampering with the votes.