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Babschap 24-07-2014 10:40 PM

Deluded bitch
 
Watching her wriggling her foul mouthed way out of being caught bang to rights!

rusticgal 24-07-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Babschap (Post 7093870)
Watching her wriggling her foul mouthed way out of being caught bang to rights!

Show the clip and all her other bitchy comments made behind people's backs...if only for her fans who share her selective memory...:joker:

Kizzy 24-07-2014 11:18 PM

I'm a fan and I don't have a selective memory... she did say those things but not in a bitchy way, that wasn't put across in the task.

Kazanne 24-07-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7093995)
I'm a fan and I don't have a selective memory... she did say those things but not in a bitchy way, that wasn't put across in the task.

:clap1::clap1:

rusticgal 24-07-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7093995)
I'm a fan and I don't have a selective memory... she did say those things but not in a bitchy way, that wasn't put across in the task.

Why didn't she say it to his face...and why is she denying it?.... I will tell you why because NOT saying it to his face is what she preaches...and saying what she said was a detremental comment about trying to change the viewers concept of him... Maybe it wasn't meant to be nasty but why deny it if it wasn't meant to be so.

jet 24-07-2014 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7093995)
I'm a fan and I don't have a selective memory... she did say those things but not in a bitchy way, that wasn't put across in the task.

Saying Kimberley was a tramp was a bitchy comment whatever way it was said....and she denied saying it and then in the DR she was asked if she regretted saying it and she said NO. :crazy:
The girl is an absolute immoral lying mess.

She should had owned it to Steven's face - after all, isn't she the 'I tell it like to is to people's faces' person?
She also called Jale a '********** fat knobhead tonight. Yep, Helen has really changed - not the same schoolyard bitch at all....

Kizzy 24-07-2014 11:48 PM

it was just a comment made during a conversation... no big deal.
I missed that fat comment how did jale come into the conversation? she couldn't really say tht to her face she's not there :laugh:

rusticgal 24-07-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7094075)
it was just a comment made during a conversation... no big deal.
I missed that fat comment how did jale come into the conversation? she couldn't really say tht to her face she's not there :laugh:

I guess it's never a big deal if you are a fan...hypocritical. If It had been Ashleigh it would have been a different story to you few Helen fans.

Kazanne 24-07-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094094)
I guess it's never a big deal if you are a fan...hypocritical. If It had been Ashleigh it would have been a different story to you few Helen fans.

Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality:hehe: Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:01 AM

All those quotes was fabricated, Helen would never say anything like those comments, she's very calm and sweet.

jet 25-07-2014 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7094097)
Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality:hehe: Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

Do you really, in your heart, believe that there is no difference between Helen and Ashleigh Kazanne?

Lwize 25-07-2014 12:02 AM

Sober Helen doesn't remember what Drunk Helen says. Figures.

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7094097)
Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality:hehe: Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

I agree, Ashleigh has but when Helen gets found out why is it 'no big deal' when Ashleigh's is?

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094094)
I guess it's never a big deal if you are a fan...hypocritical. If It had been Ashleigh it would have been a different story to you few Helen fans.

Yes and you Ashleigh fans would be calling Ashleigh a brilliant mastermind if it was her that made those comments, and the fits of rage at her comments being aired to the house.

Anyway why are we fighting over the entertainers? We should be all clubbing together to take out the dullards like Winston & Zoe.

kistar 25-07-2014 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7094075)
it was just a comment made during a conversation... no big deal.
I missed that fat comment how did jale come into the conversation? she couldn't really say tht to her face she's not there :laugh:

Don't most comments happen during a conversation ? Calling your alleged friend a ******ing tramp is pretty low, I don't recall Ashleigh bitching about her friends behind their back, maybe Helen but then who wouldn't and they are not and never have been friends.

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7094097)
Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality:hehe: Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

...and quality stands for nothing when it's vote to WIN :joker:...so in this game it's quality AND quantity...:cheer2:

Kizzy 25-07-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094094)
I guess it's never a big deal if you are a fan...hypocritical. If It had been Ashleigh it would have been a different story to you few Helen fans.

I like ashleigh too though.... what box are you going to put me in now? :hehe:

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7094121)
I like ashleigh too though.... what box are you going to put me in now? :hehe:

I like Ashleigh as well, I don't get this childish behaviour of such and such doesn't like my favourite so I'll hate that person for it.

Both are great Housemates in their own right and I wish them both the best of luck along with Astro Ash.

Kazanne 25-07-2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7094103)
Do you really, in your heart, believe that there is no difference between Helen and Ashleigh Kazanne?

Oh yes they are different in how they go about things,Helen is gung ho,gobby and potty mouthed,but Ashleigh for me is much worse as she is devious,sly and whispers ,both bitch,but sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it,I've had a complete turn around on these two since it started,couldn't stand Helen,but I've seen true emotion in her even if she doesn't express it in the way some would like sometimes,she also has a fun side too and seems pretty loyal until crossed!

Kazanne 25-07-2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094115)
...and quality stands for nothing when it's vote to WIN :joker:...so in this game it's quality AND quantity...:cheer2:

Depends how much your willing to spend:joker:

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7094109)
Yes and you Ashleigh fans would be calling Ashleigh a brilliant mastermind if it was her that made those comments, and the fits of rage at her comments being aired to the house.

Anyway why are we fighting over the entertainers? We should be all clubbing together to take out the dullards like Winston & Zoe.

Ashleigh was exposed and she didn't deny it....that's because they a SHOWED her saying it unlike Helen... It's when people come on here wanting proof when we all know she said it. Ashleigh didn't try and defend her bitchy comments...she said nothing against the backlash because she meant what she said...unlike Helen who has denied it completely.

However I agree with your comments we should be getting the dullards out..but it's because they are dull we have nothing to discuss about them :wavey:

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:17 AM

Helen and Ashleigh are both probably nice people outside of the house, it's the game that brings their competitive side out in force.

The ones to watch out for are the fakes like Mark, Winston, and Zoe, it's very rare that them three give away how they're really feeling to the public.

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:17 AM

Helen and Ashleigh are both probably nice people outside of the house, it's the game that brings their competitive side out in force.

The ones to watch out for are the fakes like Mark, Winston, and Zoe, it's very rare that them three give away how they're really feeling to the public.

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7094136)
Depends how much your willing to spend:joker:

Lol...if all her fans voted once she would win hands down...:cheer2:

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7094145)
Helen and Ashleigh are both probably nice people outside of the house, it's the game that brings their competitive side out in force.

The ones to watch out for are the fakes like Mark, Winston, and Zoe, it's very rare that them three give away how they're really feeling to the public.


Well Helen and Ashleigh are both very strong minded people but that's where their similarities end.... Helen has no morals,self awareness or respect for others and Ashleigh does...that's why I like Ashleigh and despise Helen.
You are right about Winston, mark and Zoe....just trying to play 'nice' isn't enough to be a winner.

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094138)
Ashleigh was exposed and she didn't deny it....that's because they a SHOWED her saying it unlike Helen... It's when people come on here wanting proof when we all know she said it. Ashleigh didn't try and defend her bitchy comments...she said nothing against the backlash because she meant what she said...unlike Helen who has denied it completely.

However I agree with your comments we should be getting the dullards out..but it's because they are dull we have nothing to discuss about them :wavey:

I suppose you're right about the bottom part in particular, has Winston had a discussion on here in the past week?

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:29 AM

Nope...off to bed...chat tomorrow. :wavey:

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094163)
Well Helen and Ashleigh are both very strong minded people but that's where their similarities end.... Helen has no morals,self awareness or respect for others and Ashleigh does...that's why I like Ashleigh and despise Helen.
You are right about Winston, mark and Zoe....just trying to play 'nice' isn't enough to be a winner.

I just think with Helen that she's hot headed, I honestly think she's harmless compared to some contestants that we've had in the past.

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094171)
Nope...off to bed...chat tomorrow. :wavey:

Okay good night, I enjoyed reading your posts.

rusticgal 25-07-2014 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7094172)
I just think with Helen that she's hot headed, I honestly think she's harmless compared to some contestants that we've had in the past.

There certainly has been worse...

Kizzy 25-07-2014 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094163)
Well Helen and Ashleigh are both very strong minded people but that's where their similarities end.... Helen has no morals,self awareness or respect for others and Ashleigh does...that's why I like Ashleigh and despise Helen.
You are right about Winston, mark and Zoe....just trying to play 'nice' isn't enough to be a winner.

As kaz said I would say helen is more vocal and ashleigh a whisperer, but ultimately they're quite similar in the bitchy stakes.

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094176)
There certainly has been worse...

Yeah Conor and Chanelle Hayes spring to mind for me.

AarynGriesfan 25-07-2014 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockinator (Post 7094144)
Helen and Ashleigh are both probably nice people outside of the house, it's the game that brings their competitive side out in force.

The ones to watch out for are the fakes like Mark, Winston, and Zoe, it's very rare that them three give away how they're really feeling to the public.

If you exclude sleeping with married men for money than yeah I am sure she is a perfectly lovely person in the outside world.

jet 25-07-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7094135)
Oh yes they are different in how they go about things,Helen is gung ho,gobby and potty mouthed,but Ashleigh for me is much worse as she is devious,sly and whispers ,both bitch,but sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it,I've had a complete turn around on these two since it started,couldn't stand Helen,but I've seen true emotion in her even if she doesn't express it in the way some would like sometimes,she also has a fun side too and seems pretty loyal until crossed!

Thanks for giving your perception of Helen and Ashleigh, Kazanne. For myself, I could never like someone who tries to degrade and humiliate other people openly on a public TV show and who is warned for bullying. NEVER. A person who picks on those who she perceives as weaker than herself and has done plenty of talking behind peoples backs. A person who lies their way out of being caught out and then cries to get sympathy from the person (Steven) who they have not admitted they have hurt. A person who then says in the DR they don't regret saying what they did. An immoral, nasty bully called Helen.

Ashleigh, on the other hand, has bitched, yes. But WHO has she bitched about and tried to overcome - the ones who bully and are cruel to others, NEVER the nice HM's.

Ashleigh is a big fave with the forums and the public. If she is worse than Helen, as you think, why do you think the majority prefer her?

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan (Post 7094186)
If you exclude sleeping with married men for money than yeah I am sure she is a perfectly lovely person in the outside world.

She probably did that profession to put food on the table for her family, we have no idea what circumstances she was put under and Rooney was the worst in that scenario as he was the married person in the affair.

jet 25-07-2014 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7094163)
Well Helen and Ashleigh are both very strong minded people but that's where their similarities end.... Helen has no morals,self awareness or respect for others and Ashleigh does...that's why I like Ashleigh and despise Helen.
You are right about Winston, mark and Zoe....just trying to play 'nice' isn't enough to be a winner.

That is it in a nutshell! :clap1::clap1::clap1:

Mystic Mock 25-07-2014 01:02 AM

Helen and Ashleigh fans need to take away their personal dislike for each others favourite Housemate and team up together as they've been two of the three biggest characters of the series, almost every discussion is about them, Ash, and Steven, these out of the ones left are holding this week together and the series to a lot of people, it's certainly not been Pav, Mark, Zoe, or Winston that's for sure.

kistar 25-07-2014 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan (Post 7094186)
If you exclude sleeping with married men for money than yeah I am sure she is a perfectly lovely person in the outside world.

What's that got to do with it?

sampvt 25-07-2014 08:50 AM

All we hear nowadays from certain posters is that we need to judge people on their merits in the house and in the same breath they crucify Helen for her life outside. I think her haters are grasping at straws and its easy to slag off a persona in favour of their fav. Helen has made the series this year for all the wrong reason but her bitchiness has nowhere come up to the level of deceptive behaviour other HM's have shown. So in closing, the show has bitches, gamers and scammers. I hate the later 2 but some people are fixated on hating someone so much, it clouds their judgements and different weapons get used and fights break out. Its only a bloody game and if helen wasn't there we would all be saying Its bloody boring and why doesent BB do something bla bla bla.

MrWong 25-07-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7094183)
As kaz said I would say helen is more vocal and ashleigh a whisperer, but ultimately they're quite similar in the bitchy stakes.

Yes they are both bitchy.

Helen's disliked for more than being bitchy though. She's nastier, and attacks peoples physical appearance. She's also aggressive and threatening.


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