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Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:30 PM

Really can't stand the woman!
 
I've been coming on the forum since this series of bb has started . I've enjoyed looking through people opinions on the hm.

I've come to the point where I need to vent !!!!!!! So I've decided to join and do just that.
What's got me to this point? Tonight's show , where Helen just blatantly lies and fabricates everything , in regards to the conversation where she " walked " in at that moment" BS !!!! You didn't walk in at that moment love , you purposely/sneakily walked into the toilet to listen to a conversation that you wasn't invited too?
What about how she talks in regards to Ashleigh ? Smashing her head in because of what she "heard" absolutely disgraceful !!!
This woman (Helen) has a son , what a great role model ! To go around threatening to smash a young girls head in and also call her a C....I can't stand her double standards either . The woman is vile.

I can't stand Helen !!!!!!!! How I would wish to be in that house and put her in her place.

Rant over :blush::blush:

Denver 07-08-2014 09:32 PM

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:35 PM

I don't think she denied that tho , she was actually trying to explain but Helen kept cutting in with what she supposedly heard! Either way , I much prefer Ashleigh's character and comportment !

Denver 07-08-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139587)
I don't think she denied that tho , she was actually trying to explain but Helen kept cutting in with what she supposedly heard! Either way , I much prefer Ashleigh's character and comportment !

She said those words never came out my mouth

Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:39 PM

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

Marsh. 07-08-2014 09:39 PM

She went into the toilet and then heard them talking about her. Everything she relayed to them we heard them say yesterday.

Denver 07-08-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139626)
Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

They slagged her off then didnt have the balls to admit it when they got busted

Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:45 PM

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

Marsh. 07-08-2014 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139709)
Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

You said in the OP that she'd "fabricated" though. She hadn't.

LukeB 07-08-2014 09:46 PM

can anyone?

Denver 07-08-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139709)
Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

So its normal to slag someone off but when they challenge you on it say you didnt say it then call them a lier?

Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:49 PM

She did fabricate it ?? She said what she thought she heard in a manor to suit her argument ? She didn't hear the whole conversation first, she heard only bad things and rolled with it ! Then went in to the bathroom and told ash what she heard but not in the way it was exactly said .

Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:51 PM

Not at all .both sides need to be honest . Helens making out she was accidentally walking past when she wasn't ??? I just don't like her approach to things and the way she goes about it .

Denver 07-08-2014 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139786)
Not at all .both sides need to be honest . Helens making out she was accidentally walking past when she wasn't ??? I just don't like her approach to things and the way she goes about it .

She has every right to eavesdrop when its about her

Miche30584 07-08-2014 09:55 PM

I disagree! Eavesdroppers never hear anything good about them selfs and it's your own fault to be so sneaky and listen to people's privet conversation

RodHull 07-08-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139626)
Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

Crimson Dynamo 07-08-2014 10:24 PM

Helen is a self hating paranoid mess

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 7140085)
The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

Who's making a poor innocent argument ?? I haven't made any indication that they are poor innocent people.

And yes , she did purposely go to listen. If you look back , you will clearly see that she was in mid convo with ash stood still. She started walking to the toilet to hear the conversation , when she did ash said something like "what you doing" and Helen says shhh.

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:35 PM

My bad , she was actually sat on the floor ! Her head perks up and starts walking towards what she wants to sneakily hear.

Forgetmenot 07-08-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139534)
I've been coming on the forum since this series of bb has started . I've enjoyed looking through people opinions on the hm.

I've come to the point where I need to vent !!!!!!! So I've decided to join and do just that.
What's got me to this point? Tonight's show , where Helen just blatantly lies and fabricates everything , in regards to the conversation where she " walked " in at that moment" BS !!!! You didn't walk in at that moment love , you purposely/sneakily walked into the toilet to listen to a conversation that you wasn't invited too?
What about how she talks in regards to Ashleigh ? Smashing her head in because of what she "heard" absolutely disgraceful !!!
This woman (Helen) has a son , what a great role model ! To go around threatening to smash a young girls head in and also call her a C....I can't stand her double standards either . The woman is vile.

I can't stand Helen !!!!!!!! How I would wish to be in that house and put her in her place.

Rant over :blush::blush:

I would trust Helen more than any one else in the house. You are blinded by the swearing and her defend dive nature as a lot of people were perhaps but underneath that is a decent person with a troubled past. As to sweet Ashleigh, I heard her use the c..t word few days ago, in general conversation, mother Teresa apprentice she is not, take the word of an oldie! And no need to blush!

Northern Monkey 07-08-2014 10:38 PM

Welcome!Good points too.

Denver 07-08-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Forgetmenot (Post 7140188)
I would trust Helen more than any one else in the house. You are blinded by the swearing and her defend dive nature as a lot of people were perhaps but underneath that is a decent person with a troubled past. As to sweet Ashleigh, I heard her use the c..t word few days ago, in general conversation, mother Teresa apprentice she is not, take the word of an oldie! And no need to blush!

This^^^^ my i add she is fiercely loyal to her freinds

Marsh. 07-08-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139759)
She did fabricate it ?? She said what she thought she heard in a manor to suit her argument ? She didn't hear the whole conversation first, she heard only bad things and rolled with it ! Then went in to the bathroom and told ash what she heard but not in the way it was exactly said .

She quoted what they said. She misinterpreted the meaning a couple of times but Ashleigh flat out denied saying it, when we saw that she did.

Jords 07-08-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7140194)
This^^^^ my i add she is fiercely loyal to her freinds

ha good luck becoming her friend not sure theres enough room up her arse with Mark, Winston and Ash all there

Forgetmenot 07-08-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139847)
I disagree! Eavesdroppers never hear anything good about them selfs and it's your own fault to be so sneaky and listen to people's privet conversation

But its Big Brother, so nothing is private..if we, the viewers can listen to them slag her off why should she not be able to?!

Marsh. 07-08-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7139847)
I disagree! Eavesdroppers never hear anything good about them selfs and it's your own fault to be so sneaky and listen to people's privet conversation

She went into the toilet and heard them say her name and she listened in.

I thought it was completely dumb of Ashleigh and Chris to be speaking so loudly in the first place.

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:42 PM

With all due respect and to cause no offence to anyone ..I wouldn't trust a woman who sleeps with a married man , whom she blatantly knew and knew his wife was heavily pregnant . That speaks volumes for her character .

I doubt Ashleigh is anything like her . Most people bitch , I don't think Ashleigh's bitching makes her a terrible person . I think the situation probably has brought out the worse in Ashleigh . However , Helens seems to have always had this attitude!

Denver 07-08-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7140224)
With all due respect and to cause no offence to anyone ..I wouldn't trust a woman who sleeps with a married man , whom she blatantly knew and knew his wife was heavily pregnant . That speaks volumes for her character .

I doubt Ashleigh is anything like her . Most people bitch , I don't think Ashleigh's bitching makes her a terrible person . I think the situation probably has probably brought out the worse in Ashleigh . However , Helens seems to have always had this attitude!

Thats her past yes it was wrong but it shouldnt define her future

Kazanne 07-08-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7139559)
Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

The truth

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7140230)
Thats her past yes it was wrong but it shouldnt define her future

Totally true!!! But the way she has carried herself through out proves my point to me . I thought she was going in there to possible prove that's she's not all that people make out , yet she is vile in the way she speaks to people , how she deals with them . I think there is some truth in what she said in regards to smashing Ashleigh's head in. Why say it ?? I know we say things in a heat of a moment but still , she has a conviction when she says all the things she does !

RodHull 07-08-2014 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7140149)
And yes , she did purposely go to listen. If you look back , you will clearly see that she was in mid convo with ash stood still. She started walking to the toilet to hear the conversation , when she did ash said something like "what you doing" and Helen says shhh.

She was going to the toilet i believe then overheard them and decided to listen (I would have to)

How could she have purposely gone to listen how would she have known they were talking about her (considering they spend 90% of their time talking alone)

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Forgetmenot (Post 7140211)
But its Big Brother, so nothing is private..if we, the viewers can listen to them slag her off why should she not be able to?!

Again true ! But you cannot deny it looked and it was sneaky? Imagine if it was the other way round ? I think Helen would be worse then how she was tonight ?!? Possibly

I think it's rude to listen in on a conversation that you're not apart of . Maybe I am different , I don't know ?

Marsh. 07-08-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7140271)
Again true ! But you cannot deny it looked and it was sneaky? Imagine if it was the other way round ? I think Helen would be worse then how she was tonight ?!? Possibly

I think it's rude to listen in on a conversation that you're not apart of . Maybe I am different , I don't know ?

If you went into the toilet and heard two people having a loud conversation about yourself, you wouldn't be the least bit curious and listen to what was being said?

You lie. :smug: :laugh:

Marsh. 07-08-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7140247)
Totally true!!! But the way she has carried herself through out proves my point to me . I thought she was going in there to possible prove that's she's not all that people make out , yet she is vile in the way she speaks to people , how she deals with them . I think there is some truth in what she said in regards to smashing Ashleigh's head in. Why say it ?? I know we say things in a heat of a moment but still , she has a conviction when she says all the things she does !

Ashleigh said the same thing about Christopher?

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 7140267)
She was going to the toilet i believe then overheard them and decided to listen (I would have to)

How could she have purposely gone to listen how would she have known they were talking about her (considering they spend 90% of their time talking alone)

Are you serious ?? I just watched the clip back . She was on the floor speaking with ash. The way her head moves indicates to me , that she either heard her name or heard something of interested . To say she was going to the toilet is laughable . She blatantly tells ash shh, she has her fingers against her lips .

Miche30584 07-08-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7140274)
If you went into the toilet and heard two people having a loud conversation about yourself, you wouldn't be the least bit curious and listen to what was being said?

You lie. :smug: :laugh:


Honestly , I wouldn't ! I've learned to not listen to people's conversations , especially that don't involve me and if you are silly enough to stand in the toilet to listen to something that you're not invited to, then it's your fault that you heard 'certain' things about you.

Miche30584 07-08-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7140274)
If you went into the toilet and heard two people having a loud conversation about yourself, you wouldn't be the least bit curious and listen to what was being said?

You lie. :smug: :laugh:

Also being in a toilet and hearing stuff said about you is different to actually- purposely go to the toilet to listen

Miche30584 07-08-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7140220)
She went into the toilet and heard them say her name and she listened in.

I thought it was completely dumb of Ashleigh and Chris to be speaking so loudly in the first place.


Doesn't that say something ? I even think Ashleigh said she speaking loud enough so people in the garden to hear.

If Ashleigh was actually bitching and slagging her off like she has done in the past , I'm sure it would be under quieter tones and not in such a public area .

joeysteele 07-08-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7140224)
With all due respect and to cause no offence to anyone ..I wouldn't trust a woman who sleeps with a married man , whom she blatantly knew and knew his wife was heavily pregnant . That speaks volumes for her character .

I doubt Ashleigh is anything like her . Most people bitch , I don't think Ashleigh's bitching makes her a terrible person . I think the situation probably has brought out the worse in Ashleigh . However , Helens seems to have always had this attitude!

What about that married man looking for and paying to sleep with her,how does he get off scot free, was he thinking of his wife and future child.

Marsh. 07-08-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Miche30584 (Post 7140355)
Doesn't that say something ? I even think Ashleigh said she speaking loud enough so people in the garden to hear.

If Ashleigh was actually bitching and slagging her off like she has done in the past , I'm sure it would be under quieter tones and not in such a public area .

So why flat out deny saying stuff?


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