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Jords 07-08-2014 10:11 PM

Chris & Christopher - fully redeemed and back in the game!
 
I thought after last week with Chris and his mild obsession in stating that him and Ashleigh are JUST FRIENDS, coming across slightly odd around her and resulting in being boo'd on the Friday, that hed completely blew his chances of winning. And as for Christopher with his kinda erratic behaviour the past couple of nights and his relationship with Mark that people would probably be put off him. However tonight they completely smashed the episode showing Mark and Ash up as cowards who hid silently whilst Chris took all the heat and they took down Helen who was just left there harking on and on. Winston also came off bad showing himself as selfish and an idiot once more when he tried giving Chris lip over his decision but not Ash or Mark.

Im definitely sensing a BB13 finale vibe with Ashleigh/Chris/Christopher as Top 3 similar to Luke A/Adam/Deana.

Denver 07-08-2014 10:12 PM

You wont be saying that when one of them goes tomorrow

Samm 07-08-2014 10:14 PM

No ty if Chris or Christopher won I think I will die

Josy 07-08-2014 10:14 PM

I don't see it that way at all Jords, Chris was fully exposed as a liar and Christopher's entire argument was based on a lie also because Chris was never sharing the cash with all of the housemates.

Jordan. 07-08-2014 10:14 PM

Not at all. Christopher basically did exactly the same as Helen (defend his friend) but raised his voice and got all dramatic about it, yet somehow is getting praise & Chris showed what a fake he is taking the money for himself after doubting the pact like he's above everyone else.

LukeB 07-08-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140016)
I don't see it that way at all Jords, Chris was fully exposed as a liar and Christopher's entire argument was based on a lie also because Chris was never sharing the cash with all of the housemates.

all housemates wont share it either :shrug:
its big brother

ash would give it to helen,mark,winston
helen would do the same

so on

Jords 07-08-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7140005)
You wont be saying that when one of them goes tomorrow

Ive been wanting Winston and one of them to go. Now Im on-side with the public and want a Mark eviction. He might have been fun throughout the series but hes being a constant prick now.

tbf Im not that arsed though

billy123 07-08-2014 10:16 PM

Chris is gone.

Josy 07-08-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7140026)
all housemates wont share it either :shrug:
its big brother

ash would give it to helen,mark,winston
helen would do the same

so on

Yes well this thread is about Chris and Christopher

jscoo47 07-08-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7140026)
all housemates wont share it either :shrug:
its big brother

ash would give it to helen,mark,winston
helen would do the same

so on

You are quite right. Other people have seemed to miss the point. Chris said yesterday that things would kick when money was involved. He said to BB that saying no would be boring. He wanted to flush out their greed and he did

Jords 07-08-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140016)
I don't see it that way at all Jords, Chris was fully exposed as a liar and Christopher's entire argument was based on a lie also because Chris was never sharing the cash with all of the housemates.

Dont buy it. Complete double standards when Mark and Ash also picked to take the money. If it was Chris alone Id understand the viewpoint if still not agree but otherwise nah.

smudgie 07-08-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7140033)
Chris is gone.

I do hope so Bobnot.
Mark the diva as well:dance:

LukeB 07-08-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140038)
Yes well this thread is about Chris and Christopher

yes but people have got to realise not one housemate would share it with everyone. it happens each time bb does it bb12 alex only shared it with tom

Josy 07-08-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7140044)
Dont buy it. Complete double standards when Mark and Ash also picked to take the money. If it was Chris alone Id understand the viewpoint if still not agree but otherwise nah.

Oh I know they both said they would take they money but they never said that they would take it and only share with two other housemates, they also never tried to come up with excuses afterward to make themselves look as if they just wanted it all to end and were doing it for the good of the housemates.

Jords 07-08-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140084)
Oh I know they both said they would take they money but they never said that they would take it and only share with two other housemates, they also never tried to come up with excuses afterward to make themselves look as if they just wanted it all to end and were doing it for the good of the housemates.

Nope instead they kept quiet and let Chris take all the stick for making the exact same decision to take the money as them :thumbs;

Mark only started up on the attack on Chris when he knew the general consensus was that 'CHRIS IS A BAD GUY FOR MAKING A BAD DECISION WITH BAD INTENTIONS LETS GOB OFF'.

Jordan. 07-08-2014 10:26 PM

that smug look Chris had on his face after taking the money "it wouldn't be interesting if I said no" FAKE sssnake actor

delta 07-08-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7139993)
I thought after last week with Chris and his mild obsession in stating that him and Ashleigh are JUST FRIENDS, coming across slightly odd around her and resulting in being boo'd on the Friday, that hed completely blew his chances of winning. And as for Christopher with his kinda erratic behaviour the past couple of nights and his relationship with Mark that people would probably be put off him. However tonight they completely smashed the episode showing Mark and Ash up as cowards who hid silently whilst Chris took all the heat and they took down Helen who was just left there harking on and on. Winston also came off bad showing himself as selfish and an idiot once more when he tried giving Chris lip over his decision but not Ash or Mark.

Im definitely sensing a BB13 finale vibe with Ashleigh/Chris/Christopher as Top 3 similar to Luke A/Adam/Deana.


Only in the parallel world that you disappear to when watching this program, are you on this earth or Fuller's ?

Marsh. 07-08-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140016)
I don't see it that way at all Jords, Chris was fully exposed as a liar and Christopher's entire argument was based on a lie also because Chris was never sharing the cash with all of the housemates.

:clap1:

Josy 07-08-2014 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7140105)
Nope instead they kept quiet and let Chris take all the stick for making the exact same decision to take the money as them :thumbs;

Mark only started up on the attack on Chris when he knew the general consensus was that 'CHRIS IS A BAD GUY FOR MAKING A BAD DECISION WITH BAD INTENTIONS LETS GOB OFF'.

They never made the exact same decision though Jords surely you can see the difference?

Forget about who would actually share with who for a moment because we have no idea what would happen but going on the words that came from their own mouths in the DR you don't think what Chris decided to do was worse than the other two?

MrWong 07-08-2014 10:30 PM

They have turned it around, I agree.

Pav and Mark will go.

Especially if BB open the phone lines after saving Winston.

A few clips of Pav agreeing with Helen's group should seal his fate.

Achilles 07-08-2014 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140016)
I don't see it that way at all Jords, Chris was fully exposed as a liar and Christopher's entire argument was based on a lie also because Chris was never sharing the cash with all of the housemates.

Helen, Ash, Winston and Mark would never share that money either. Any money they won was for the winner. The winner would then have the right to do whatever they wanted to with it. Any pacts in a game show are completely irrelevant. It's not a courtroom.

Josy 07-08-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7140143)
Helen, Ash, Winston and Mark would never share that money either. Any money they won was for the winner. The winner would then have the right to do whatever they wanted to with it. Any pacts in a game show are completely irrelevant. It's not a courtroom.

I don't care who would share the money, there is no money for them to share anyway.

I'm discussing what Chris said in the DR and I think that makes him sneaky, a liar and two faced.

Rageofangels 07-08-2014 10:33 PM

I think it made him funny and entertaining.

RodHull 07-08-2014 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7139993)
Im definitely sensing a BB13 finale vibe with Ashleigh/Chris/Christopher as Top 3 similar to Luke A/Adam/Deana.

Havent got this comparison ever from this series.

Personally I disliked Deana and Luke anyway, but they had integrity at least.

Chris is acting he has acted since day 1, its all bull**** with him. Christopher is a sycophant whos just acting up to what he believes the public like, and Ashleigh while she has her good points is a bitchy little cow with no loyalty whatsoever to her friends.

Their nothing like those 3 you mentioned. Christopher is actually quite a vile pathetic creature.

Jords 07-08-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7140123)
They never made the exact same decision though Jords surely you can see the difference?

Forget about who would actually share with who for a moment because we have no idea what would happen but going on the words that came from their own mouths in the DR you don't think what Chris decided to do was worse than the other two?

A good judge of character doesnt just go on the exact words that come out of peoples' mouths. Me and my dad were actually in agreement that we'd take the money and split it only with the HMs we had befriended or were 'nice enough'. And if we won wed do the same with that money set aside. So actually I fully agree with Chris and he has a right to make that decision.

Do I think all the other HMs would share equally that money? No. And Im not gonna have an opinion based just on the words that directly leave their mouth over it. Do I understand why they got mad? Of course. But how they presented themselves once again was as nasty individuals whom pick and choose who they have a problem with and are completely ignorant and unaware.

RodHull 07-08-2014 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7140175)
A good judge of character doesnt just go on the exact words that come out of peoples' mouths. Me and my dad were actually in agreement that we'd take the money and split it only with the HMs we had befriended or were 'nice enough'. And if we won wed do the same with that money set aside. So actually I fully agree with Chris and he has a right to make that decision.

Do I think all the other HMs would share equally that money? No. And Im not gonna have an opinion based just on the words that directly leave their mouth over it. Do I understand why they got mad? Of course. But how they presented themselves once again was as nasty individuals whom pick and choose who they have a problem with and are completely ignorant and unaware.

So forgetting that your basing your decision on your beliefs rather than face value of what they said. Your choosing to disbelieve the others would share but believing Chris would?? WHY exactly??

Also Im not gonna lie Id have taken it if offered but Id have owned my decision and admitted to it, not lied like a snivelling little coward then watch as an argument kicks off then pretend to be all high and mighty about it.

Chris is a bellend.

Josy 07-08-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7140175)
A good judge of character doesnt just go on the exact words that come out of peoples' mouths. Me and my dad were actually in agreement that we'd take the money and split it only with the HMs we had befriended or were 'nice enough'. And if we won wed do the same with that money set aside. So actually I fully agree with Chris and he has a right to make that decision.

Do I think all the other HMs would share equally that money? No. And Im not gonna have an opinion based just on the words that directly leave their mouth over it. Do I understand why they got mad? Of course. But how they presented themselves once again was as nasty individuals whom pick and choose who they have a problem with and are completely ignorant and unaware.


What other way can we judge them if not from what they say and do on the highlights?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree because I don't think the same way as you in regards to any of it and I have been a fan of Chris all along but tonight turned me off him in regards to how sneaky he was and how he lied about his intentions and was willing to sit back and watch Christopher take **** for defending him when all the while we knew and he knew he had already said he wouldn't be sharing the money with all of the housemates.

Jords 07-08-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 7140192)
So forgetting that your basing your decision on your beliefs rather than face value of what they said. Your choosing to disbelieve the others would share but believing Chris would?? WHY exactly??

Also Im not gonna lie Id have taken it if offered but Id have owned my decision and admitted to it, not lied like a snivelling little coward then watch as an argument kicks off then pretend to be all high and mighty about it.

Chris is a bellend.

I dont actually care who would share and who would not but they are behaving in a way to suggest that they havnt had a similar thought process as Chris... i.e. thinking about not living up to the so-called 'pack'. Chris was very honest tonight and they all know its crossed their minds if they won it.

And I think Chris would share with Ashleigh and Christopher. Like I think Ash would share with Helen and Winson. Not too sure if Mark would share with anybody after watching him tonight. The only cowards tonight were Ash and Mark for sitting quiet whilst Chris got grilled about the exact same decision they made.

MrWong 07-08-2014 10:49 PM

I'm struggling to see the difference between the 3 hm's.

They all chose to remove money from the fund even though there was no need to remove it.

They could have left it, with no consequences, like the others did :shrug:

BigSister 07-08-2014 10:51 PM

I think Mark has got away with everything. Ash did say he would take it to share and I believe him and Chris although he was in the wrong did say only sharing with Ashleigh and Christopher. All 3 however were in the wrong and Chris didn't deserve the tongue lashing he got. I do think however he will go tomorrow along with Mark.

Lstan 07-08-2014 10:54 PM

hold on can someone clarify something for me-i know they had a go at chris but didnt mark say he wanted to take the money for himself for his brow bar? or did i mishear? thanks!:dance:

BigBrotherfan4ever 07-08-2014 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7140233)
I dont actually care who would share and who would not but they are behaving in a way to suggest that they havnt had a similar thought process as Chris... i.e. thinking about not living up to the so-called 'pack'. Chris was very honest tonight and they all know its crossed their minds if they won it.

And I think Chris would share with Ashleigh and Christopher. Like I think Ash would share with Helen and Winson. Not too sure if Mark would share with anybody after watching him tonight. The only cowards tonight were Ash and Mark for sitting quiet whilst Chris got grilled about the exact same decision they made.

Your absolutely right Jords:wavey:

MrWong 07-08-2014 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7140278)
hold on can someone clarify something for me-i know they had a go at chris but didnt mark say he wanted to take the money for himself for his brow bar? or did i mishear? thanks!:dance:

He said it.

He's just not admitting that he said it.

RodHull 07-08-2014 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7140233)
And I think Chris would share with Ashleigh and Christopher. Like I think Ash would share with Helen and Winson. Not too sure if Mark would share with anybody after watching him tonight. The only cowards tonight were Ash and Mark for sitting quiet whilst Chris got grilled about the exact same decision they made.

Again your basing that on YOUR opinion not the evidence available. Ash at no point has hinted he wouldnt share the money equally your just deciding that to justify your defense of Chris.

Mark is not defendable, hes as bad as Chris. But Ash never once said he was tempted to keep it or he wouldnt give certain people money. Hes guilty of lacking the trust to believe others would split it equally thats it. If you choose to believe (contrary to all evidence) that hes lying then fine. But know that it is indeed contrary to all evidence.

Where as Chris had about 3 or 4 versions of why he made the decision to take the money. At first he never mentioned the others at all and said he was doing it to prove a point.

Your blind to his lies purely cause Helen argued with him, he was caught out as a manipulative liar and then tried to grandstand in the DR at the end to the public (funny that after being told we all loved his DR rants by his friend yesterday)

Jords 07-08-2014 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 7140295)
Again your basing that on YOUR opinion not the evidence available. Ash at no point has hinted he wouldnt share the money equally your just deciding that to justify your defense of Chris.

Mark is not defendable, hes as bad as Chris. But Ash never once said he was tempted to keep it or he wouldnt give certain people money. Hes guilty of lacking the trust to believe others would split it equally thats it. If you choose to believe (contrary to all evidence) that hes lying then fine. But know that it is indeed contrary to all evidence.

Where as Chris had about 3 or 4 versions of why he made the decision to take the money. At first he never mentioned the others at all and said he was doing it to prove a point.

Your blind to his lies purely cause Helen argued with him, he was caught out as a manipulative liar and then tried to grandstand in the DR at the end to the public (funny that after being told we all loved his DR rants by his friend yesterday)

pet peeve on the forum - when people hark for evidence

I could be wrong. But you could also be wrong and you based your opinion completely on what is said only.

I look beyond that. Its all about trying to understand the HMs different personalities and the situations BB creates. EVERYBODY in that house would have had the thought of keeping the money all themselves because thats a thought process the situation would create (cost-benefit analysis whether to split or not).

tbh I would say there is probably a good chance Chris would have shared the money with everybody anyway purely because of the pressure theyd all give him (especially Helen) after the show and hes the type of guy who looks for an 'easy life' from what Ive observed.

Lstan 07-08-2014 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 7140288)
He said it.

He's just not admitting that he said it.

ty bb! yeah i was wondering about the threads on here because from what i have seen no ones mentioned mark again? lemme check.

edit: people are mentioning mark being quiet and letting chris take all the flack, no ones mentioned how he wanted to keep the money for himself.

Tarryn 07-08-2014 11:28 PM

I loved both of these tonight but going by BB viewers in previous years it's probably curtains for them now.
Mark was the most guilty of the three as he already had won money.
I just can't stand the little twat.

jegmeister 07-08-2014 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7140005)
You wont be saying that when one of them goes tomorrow

but that won't happen because neither of them are - so he will still be saying it.

MrWong 07-08-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7140362)
ty bb! yeah i was wondering about the threads on here because from what i have seen no ones mentioned mark again? lemme check.

edit: people are mentioning mark being quiet and letting chris take all the flack, no ones mentioned how he wanted to keep the money for himself.

It was mostly mentioned in the highlights thread and the BOTS thread.

I actually missed the comment whilst watching highlights and only realised when on the BOTS thread.

Vladimir 07-08-2014 11:34 PM

Not really, Chris was exposed as a liar and Christopher was defending Chris' lies.


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