Why BB4 went completely pearshaped
 

Just thought I would open this thread up, in light of how BB3 was a complete botch up

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BB4 hasn't happened yet, has it?

Or have I missed something?

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Just making sure the thread is open in anticipation.

After last time would you trust them to run a welk stall ?

I seem to remember you running a similar thread about BB3 this time last year Sticks!

Well, despite the fact we didn't particularly take to it on here, unfortunately the great British public proved how fickle they were and did, instantly forgetting all that had gone before.

Let's just hope they forget that lot just as thoroughly, although Heat seems determined not to let them!

The main reason why BB4 was such a colossial faliure was due to Endemol / C4 ignoring the fundamental law of diminishing returns :mad:

That should sum up the impending calamity scheduled for this summer

Oh, lets not go back to this debate again!
We all know BB3 failed compared to BB2, lets not repeat it all over! Lets just look forward to BB4!:spin2:

Posted by Sticks


Sticks, what planet are you on, it's not started yet, it starts in about half way through May. Your jumping the gun a bit with the cynicals there.:nono:



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But, it didn't fail did it! We hated it, but the rest of the nation didn't.

They watched in multitudes.

The advertisers will have loved it, and they will pay mucho mucho for a spot this year. Hence, I can confidently predict they will go for harassment and divisive techniques to prevent bonding from day one.

We should have known last year when they didn't build a den. :bawling:

We can always cross our fingers that the rumoured 'Love Loft' makes an appearance during BB4, ROB. :thumbs:

Steve - Sticks may be jumping the gun, but it's another post nearer the magic 1,000 mark! :laugh:

I am just extrapolating from last year to save time. :spin:

Come on Sticks, you can do it, nearly there:thumbs:

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Not sure, but possibly the second on the left right behind...............
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Live long and prosper, oh doom meester!


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[marquee]Only 9 posts to go, Sticks!!![/marquee]


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I really do hope that BB4 is a big improvement over 3. And I don't think that I will have to like it as much as I liked BB2, for me to think that BB4 is a success.

The one thing that bothers me about the new series is that, in my opinion, the HMs are becoming increasingly aware of how to perform in front of the cameras, how the public will react to the contestants and the opportunities that they will get from appearing on the show.

Re: the lack of the Den in BB3.
On the one hand the Den provided a place where the housemates could have been alone and provided a cooling-off place after arguments - as it did in BB2. However Jade and PJ would have just got it on with each other in there, rather than the bedroom in front of all others. Which makes me grateful that we were spared that.

I've often wondered why BB3 had higher viewing than the 2 previous series. Maybe it was the extended number of programmes or the live coverage on Channel 4 but I certainly don't think the figures are a true reflection of the programme's popularity with the public.

BB3 never dominated the front page headlines in the same way that BBs 1 and 2 did and it only seemed to attract negative comments from newspapers that had previously been enthusiatic about the show. It has not been repeated in any form on C4 or E4 and there has also not been a follow-up programme or even a calendar. I can't help thinking that if BB3 had been the first BB series in England it would not have been a runaway success.

For me BB3 went wrong right from the very beginning when they showed the housemates' audition tapes instead of the traditional brief filmed introductions that would have given a better insight into who they were in the real world. After 9 weeks I don't think I was really any the wiser. The loss of the weekly task seriously undermined the show's entertainment value and the rich/poor divide made for uncomfortable viewing. (Let's just hope the producers don't develop the idea further and and include a Room 101 where the housemates are subjected to their worst fears if they fail a task!) Hopefully the producers have learnt some valuable lessons from BB3, mainly that drunkenness, backstabbing, bitching and general unpleasantness does not make enjoyable television. I certainly hope that we won't see a repeat of the media's shameful treatment of Jade or the scenes that greeted Adele's eviction.


I'm optimistic that BB4 will be better than BB3; after all BB3 itself was significantly different from BB2. CBB2 showed that the format can still be entertaining. I, for one, hope that we shall again see interesting housemates getting along, doing fun tasks, having intelligent conversations and just generally enjoying themselves.

I enjoyed reading your post, Chris and I couldn't agree with you more. CBB was hugely entertaining without the need for rich/poor sides or copious amounts of alcohol. The celebrities were also kept busy with lots of tasks which solved the boredom factor.

If BB3 had been the first Big Brother, I certainly wouldn't have tuned in to a second.

I'm prepared to give Channel 4 another chance though so, with fingers crossed, roll on May and BB4.

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Just thought I would resurrect this thread as we are 72 hours of the next offering from C4 / Endemol.

Can a leopard change it's spots ?

IMHO the only downside to BB4 will be the fact that all the BB3 lot will be popping up to give us their "opinions" on the current lot in the house.

I'd much rather see the BB2 gang on our screens again!!

Try here instead if BB4 is so bad...!
 

We are running a series call My Big Brother's House on our joke BB website. It's been getting some great feedback from visitors. Check it out here...........

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Last warning, Madkinns! :nono:

PLEASE do not use TiBB purely as a means to advertise your site. You're very welcome to post here, but it would be very much appreciated if any link to your own site could be included within your 'signature', and NOT as a direct link within all your posts on this forum.

Many thanks.

Like the new BB Chair, Madkinns :joker: :joker: :joker:, just right for this year's BB :thumbs:

Sorry......
 

Will stick to the rules, it will never happen again. Do you like my site though ?

See no mention of it here.

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Yes, I like it Madkinsns. It's daft and we like daft!

But put the link in your signature, there's a good boy/girl!:thumbs::love::thumbs:

ah reminds me of my bigbrov3 days xxx

This post has really annoyed me! If you have a negative opinion before a programme starts then why bother watching it! Just look forward to it and don't dismiss it right away give it a few weeks x

Cheers, Madkinns. :thumbs:
Yes I do! Very clever - and like Maggie I love the new Diary Room Chair. :laugh:

Oh Stu - you must know our Sticks by now . . . never happier than when he's being miserable! :shocked:

The contestants are people who have come from ordinary lives to volunteer to be scrutinised by us. The problem is, that somewhere in the production company it seems that there is a hidden agenda as to who they want to be evicted / win.

There have also been concerns about the boundaries that these echelons are willing to traverse. For example the BB2 Meals for two was a blatant attempt to get serious intimate action between two housemates (Helen & Paul) This was mentioned in the press at the time. It was only the fact that Mr Paul Clarke is such a gentleman that the scheme failed.

The other boundary crossed was how much you make the contestants suffer, with BB3 it was the Bars, BB2 the Dog training task (I had to agree with Dean on that one)

It also seems that ever since BB1, there have been foul ups and inconsistancies.

I have not even begun to mention the shabby treatment of the tabloid press :mad:

So why do I watch, as you ask ?

The housemates are in a vulnrable position .

The producers of Big Brother need to be held to account

In order to have the right to do that, I need to be involved. That gives me the right to comment when things are not as they should.

Leaving the battlefield only leaves it to other's unfettered opportunities to do what they want.

Just thought I would ressurrect this thread, since everyone is complaining about BB4, and the ratings are plummeting, C4 / Endemol are resorting to gimmicks.

I predicted this in January

You did not have to be an Ola to see this fiasco coming

And I was one of the first to say so, did you believe me


Nooooooooo

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Yeh right.....

congratulations on guessing it wouldnt be that good, its a real achievment lol :conf::conf: but you also dont have to watch it if you hate it that much"!!

Well if BB had a hidden agenda for this series, it's certainly backfired on them. For example, how is it that all the interesting house mates have been evicted after only 5 weeks? And if the double eviction week can be described as a gimmick how comes we saw the loss of Federico and Jon in one day? Unless you're suggesting BB is employing tactics to make the programme boring and to lose money and viewers, well then you might have a point :)

To be fair, manipulation and gimmicks are usually employed to make the program diverse and appealing. It worked well in BB 1 & 2, and it certainly saved Helen and Paul, although I admit sometimes it has not always been fair to certain contestants. But it's the nature of the BB beast I am afraid. I simply believe BB have not had a chance to really manipulate this series, and certainly not at the stage we are at now anyway. And the gimmicks have been arranged well before the show started.

Where Endemol have got it wrong for this series is with their choice and number of contestants and the nomination system; i.e. there shouldn't have been a vote until at least 2 or 3 weeks after the program began, this would have allowed Anouska to settle in more and who personally I would have liked to have seen more of.

BB will always make money, and I am certain the program will continue for many more years. I just hope next time around they get it right and learn from the mistakes of this series

And was last series so bad? I only saw it in small doses, but I would have liked to have seen more of Jade. :elephant::joker:

The problem I always have with BB, is that I am always making comparisons to BB 1 & BB 2.

Yes, I absolutely hated it, hated the gimmicks, hated the housemates and hated how Endemol had resorted to stupid tricks to try and get ratings.

BB1 will be remembered for Nasty Nick
BB2 will be remembered for H & P
BB3 will be remembered for Jade and Alex
BB4 will it be remembered for anything other than 13 nice people, getting on nicely, with nice tasks, nice rewards and nothing exiciting happening?

However with the introduction of Lisa - another gimmick - things might improve, but to be honest its tv to send you to sleep. If I'm not feeling particularly tired and its bed time - ten minutes of that lot are enough to get me yawning.
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Quote : And was last series so bad?

In my oppinion the answer to that is "No". At the time I was not that impressed with it, the bars annoyed me like many others. However just before BB4 started I watched the recording of BB3 all 38 hours and I was just plain facinated at watching there near human beahavour:laugh: I enjoyed the repeat more than the live show itself. No one was more surprised than myself as i was tempted to dump the recordings. So I am glad I didn't.

As scathing about this series as I am I am never the less recording it and will I hope at a later date start to watch it again to see if I still react the same as I am at the moment which is quite negative.

I agree it is a pity they had the immediate nomination at the start. The gimmick backfired and has changed the nature of the show and set it on a path of self destruct.....Along with a new disease called Jon obsessional mis-spelt syndrome:laugh: