Is Helen the Male Version of Conor?
 

Okay I was an Ashleigh/Christopher with probably Irish bias-ness.
I am over Helen winning, it was not fixed, she won fair and square as much as I loathed her and LOVED Ashleigh.

But in all seriousness is Helen not just the female version of Conor.
I am sure as much as I hated Conor he probably would have came close to victory in the final.

No Conor was racist and scum

To be fair, Helen mocked Irish accents a fair amount of times.
When Conor did that with an Indian accent there was a backlash.
So why is it fair to demonize him and not her for being racist?

No.

if any man behaved like helen with 20 warnings hed have been booted months ago

God she still recieving warnings :conf: please provide us all with actual proof of the 20 warnings

She's worse than Conor...

No.

Absolutely not

No, Helen has said sorry for what she done

Conor was just a sexist uneducated chav pig :)

sorry is a meaningless word, especially when theres endless warnings and abuse

Really and Helen isn't that?

Well no she isn't. She isn't under educated and she isn't a chav.

that makes some of her bahavour even less forgiveable

Pretty sure she is a chav now, from what I read up on english lingo and stuff I am 110% she is a chav.

I personally doubt it. In the last public vote he faced, he pulled less votes than Sara, Adam, Deana and Luke A.

If Luke S took the money and Conor had the finale spot, I can't see him doing better than fourth (at best).

Just no

She doesnt go around in sports gear drinking a cheap bottle of cider

Everyone seems to be ignoring my point calling Conor a racist.
There is NO DOUBT Conor is a racist pig!

But why is it fair for Helen to do what Conor did only instead of Indians it's Irish. It seems people think it's no longer racist if colour isn't involved.

screaming at people thinking she's worse than conor

It's not our business to 'forgive' her,lol ,it's for those closest to her and those she has wronged.

She spent half her time in that house intoxicated.

I didn't call her a homeless person? A chav from what I have seen is.
Council housed and violent.

she owns a Salon... pretty sure she doesn't like in a council house

NEXT

what?

shes from a tidy background , so she cant play the uneducated poor me card....she has no excuse for some of her revolting behaviour

She mentioned twice in the house living in a council house earlier in life.
Next she had nothing but intimidating behaviour and bullied housemates.
I am pretty sure had she not being in the house she would have been violent. Look at Charlie from BB10.

Pretty sure many people live in council houses in their earlier life but she's established a career, also you need to stop the idea of someone being a bad person for living in a council house... It's wrong and unfair

i'm not even gonna comment on the rest of that

Because you know you are wrong... :joker:

Technically, if she had a problem with white Irish people on the basis that they're Irish, it wouldn't be racism. It would, however, be xenophobia, which is along the same general lines.

I say IF because I have no idea if Helen has a problem with Irish people.

Actually, if you enter a show with a public vote and hope to win after behaving in a bad way, it is important for some viewers to "forgive" you.

That's quite a stereotypical image of a chav.

I'm not sure why council housing has to be brought into it.

If I knew I was wrong I wouldn't have argued with you in the first place :pat:

Living in a council house doesn't make someone a chav :nono:

That's what Chav means... I'm Irish I use the word smick. But chav by YOUR English definition is "Council Housed And Violent"
Not my words.

Ashleigh my favourite housemate is from a council estate, I am not using that to bash people. I am saying people are wrong using that word saying Helen isn't when CLEARLY she is.

A chav is a term coined by the media to lump, label and stereotype working class people as all being a part of a culture which is violent, workshy and ridden with alcoholism and drug abuse. It's demonising and demeaning and has been made popular by politicians and the elite alike in an attempt to trample on those who are deprived of the most and lack the necessary means to better themselves

Can people please stop throwing this term around it's offensive and ignorant

Then if you are right, prove me right. Life is all about perception.
Show me the error of my ways if you are right.
Instead of looking at my point then saying "Oh I just can't even read that"

If you wanna be right, show your right. Stop pussy footing around it.
Make your Queen Helen proud! :cheer2:

She isn't my Queen though

I was not the first to use that word... if you would see bothered to read the thread...
You would see Sam used it.

That is all you have to say?
I am assuming I am right then.

She didn't live in a council house,and from what I have seen ,some people in 'council' houses are no more violent than anyone else and their houses are lovely!!!

I have nothing to say because I'm not arguing with someone as ignorant as you who will throw around the term chav and use it as an insult towards someone who doesn't even remotely represent the definition of the word...

Bye then. x