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Firewire 17-08-2014 05:16 PM

What has Helen said that makes her a vile human being?
 
receipts pls

perched

Denver 17-08-2014 05:18 PM

The truth is nothing people are judging her on her past and as normal its her fault as she forced marry men to sleep with her

the truth 17-08-2014 05:18 PM

threatning to smash ashleighs head in was one,,,,mocking mathews body was another, calling jale a fffking slug .......that took me 3 seconds....there was a lot lot more

Pronshi 17-08-2014 05:18 PM

Hi my names Helen.

the truth 17-08-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7177925)
The truth is nothing people are judging her on her past and as normal its her fault as she forced marry men to sleep with her

wrong. its half her fault....shes allegedly told winston she wants ryan giggs next

Liam- 17-08-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7177926)
threatning to smash ashleighs head in was one,,,,mocking mathews body was another, calling jale a fffking slug .......that took me 3 seconds....there was a lot lot more

Ashleigh threatened to smash Christopher's head into a mirror, Ashleigh called Helen an ugly bitch, Ashleigh called Kimberly a 'disgusting excuse of a woman' .. next.

Denver 17-08-2014 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7177930)
wrong. its half her fault....shes allegedly told winston she wants ryan giggs next

So if you fancy a man or woman its wrong to say you want them? Everyone does it

Firewire 17-08-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7177926)
threatning to smash ashleighs head in was one,,,,mocking mathews body was another, calling jale a fffking slug .......that took me 3 seconds....there was a lot lot more

i've said i wanted to smash someone's face in before, doesn't mean i meant it or would ever do it... helen has no history of violence. you can't make her out to be a bad person when Ashleigh has said the exact same thing...

Matthew mocked her body too and commented on her bad plastic surgery, so... bye

Since when was slug a vile comment? It doesn't really make any sense

Obviously took you more than 3 seconds

Pronshi 17-08-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7177935)
Ashleigh threatened to smash Christopher's head into a mirror, Ashleigh called Helen an ugly bitch, Ashleigh called Kimberly a 'disgusting excuse of a woman' .. next.

She is a disgusting excuse of a woman.


Who the hell lies about having a miscarriage to get in papers!!?? :conf:

Josy 17-08-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7177926)
threatning to smash ashleighs head in was one,,,,mocking mathews body was another, calling jale a fffking slug .......that took me 3 seconds....there was a lot lot more

Most of those things were also said by other housemates (can't believe I'm defending Helen here)

Matthew slagged Off Helen's body her chest mostly iirc both in the house AND when he left.
Ashleigh said she would smash Christopher's head in during their tiff.
Ashleigh called Helen an Ugly Dick, Ugly bitch etc on numerous occasions.

Just off the top of my head.

The fact is LOTS of the housemates said nasty things in there.

karl100589 17-08-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7177926)
threatning to smash ashleighs head in was one,,,,mocking mathews body was another, calling jale a fffking slug .......that took me 3 seconds....there was a lot lot more

Telling her friends she would wipe her privates over someone's food, saying Ireland was incestville.

Cold Sweat 17-08-2014 05:25 PM

The “retarded” face that she pulled at Jale as Jale turned her back and walked away from Helen and friends in the smoking area could be perceived as vile behaviour, surely? Or have I missed some sweeping change in viewer perception where such behaviour is now applauded?

Liam- 17-08-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7177956)
She is a disgusting excuse of a woman.


Who the hell lies about having a miscarriage to get in papers!!?? :conf:

That happened outside of the house, after Ashleigh made the comment, so has no relevance whatsoever and its all just speculation anyway, no sort of fact whatsoever.
funny that you didn't mention the other two though :smug:

Pronshi 17-08-2014 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7177974)
That happened outside of the house, after Ashleigh made the comment, so has no relevance whatsoever and its all just speculation anyway, no sort of fact whatsoever.
funny that you didn't mention the other two though :smug:

She had sex on television.
There is no point you trying to defend the undefended.
The woman is disgusting. Only person more disgusting is Steven.
Both deserve each other.

joeysteele 17-08-2014 05:42 PM

Nothing I can really think of.

Firewire 17-08-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7178050)
She had sex on television.
There is no point you trying to defend the undefended.
The woman is disgusting. Only person more disgusting is Steven.
Both deserve each other.

since when was having sex disgusting?

Pete. 17-08-2014 05:44 PM

Go and shag Jesus to a Catholic?

Liam- 17-08-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7178050)
She had sex on television.
There is no point you trying to defend the undefended.
The woman is disgusting. Only person more disgusting is Steven.
Both deserve each other.

Having sex is a natural thing, someone shouldn't be persecuted and looked down upon for doing so

billy123 17-08-2014 05:44 PM

Keep sucking those Lemons until you come up with a valid reason to call her something worse than anything she said.
In the meantime excuse everyone for laughing at you.

Pronshi 17-08-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 7178053)
since when was having sex disgusting?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7178058)
Having sex is a natural thing, someone shouldn't be persecuted and looked down upon for doing so

That is your argument!? HAHAHA :joker:

She did it on National TV, for the whole of the UK/Ireland to see.
Not to mention the world of the internet.
Nothing wrong with sex. But doing it on TV for all to see.
Disgusting.

Kazanne 17-08-2014 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7177930)
wrong. its half her fault....shes allegedly told winston she wants ryan giggs next

More fantasy from The Star:joker::joker::joker:

Alf 17-08-2014 05:48 PM

She said Steven was a great bloke.

Marsh. 17-08-2014 05:49 PM

Most housemates get the overreaction of being despicable human beings.

It'll die down when the zelebs go in.

Liam- 17-08-2014 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7178068)
That is your argument!? HAHAHA :joker:

She did it on National TV, for the whole of the UK/Ireland to see.
Not to mention the world of the internet.
Nothing wrong with sex. But doing it on TV for all to see.
Disgusting.

I genuinely don't see what the problem is.. They go in there and are supposed to live and react to things they would in the outside world, sex is all a part of life, i wouldn't do it on tv personally, but if other people decide to, i don't see the issue, it certainly doesn't make someone a disgusting person in my books

Pronshi 17-08-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7178077)
I genuinely don't see what the problem is.. They go in there and are supposed to live and react to things they would in the outside world, sex is all a part of life, i wouldn't do it on tv personally, but if other people decide to, i don't see the issue, it certainly doesn't make someone a disgusting person in my books

Life is all about perception. From my point of view I wouldn't do it.
I think doing it on TV is disgusting.

You wouldn't do it either. But you don't think it's disgusting.
The beauty of perception.

Kazanne 17-08-2014 05:54 PM

There have been far worse things said on here ,than Helen has ever said,being so self righteous doesn't suit everyone!!!

Liam- 17-08-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7178084)
Life is all about perception. From my point of view I wouldn't do it.
I think doing it on TV is disgusting.

You wouldn't do it either. But you don't think it's disgusting.
The beauty of perception.

The beauty of perception? no it's called being open minded and not looking down on people.. just because i wouldn't personally do it. doesn't mean that i should think people who do are disgusting people, that's not how my mind works

Lostie! 17-08-2014 05:59 PM

Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

Pronshi 17-08-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7178090)
The beauty of perception? no it's called being open minded and not looking down on people.. just because i wouldn't personally do it. doesn't mean that i should think people who do are disgusting people, that's not how my mind works

Are you like 5? I was suggesting we agree to disagree?
Why so aggressive?

Also I am TOTALLY open minded to maybe allowing sex on TV. I SAID Kim was a disgusting person for LYING about a miscarriage for money.
THAT IS TOTALLY DISGUSTING AND INEXCUSABLE!

Liam- 17-08-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7178101)
Are you like 5? I was suggesting we agree to disagree?
Why so aggressive?

Agressive? oh lord, here we go :facepalm:
I'm not being aggressive in the slightest :joker:
We can agree to disagree though, CBB starts tomorrow and who knows, we might end up supporting the same person..

Pronshi 17-08-2014 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7178110)
Agressive? oh lord, here we go :facepalm:
I'm not being aggressive in the slightest :joker:
We can agree to disagree though, CBB starts tomorrow and who knows, we might end up supporting the same person..

Thing is, I kinda like Helen purely for entertainment reasons too. haha.
Great housemate, just I liked Ashleigh more. :bawling:

spot_on 17-08-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronshi (Post 7177956)
She is a disgusting excuse of a woman.


Who the hell lies about having a miscarriage to get in papers!!?? :conf:

You can tell the quality of a girl by the man she chooses to be with. Just look at the mess that is called Steven. Enough said.

jet 17-08-2014 09:18 PM

What has Helen said to make her a vile human being? Do you seriously think anyone would attempt to answer that in full - it would take hours to write the saga of Helen's vileness in the house alone - not to mention the vile tweets of 5 years and 2 years ago respectively that have been posted on this forum.
But as for her time in the house - her vileness cannot possibly be expressed in words. For those that think she's an ace human being and the bestest winner ever, maybe it would be a good idea to go back over the many videos posted in the utube feed thread with Helen in the title and see for yourself how vile she is. I could watch a video a day for months showing examples of her vileness, but I don't need reminded of it, I already know.
But maybe those with short memories would benefit from the exercise.

rusticgal 17-08-2014 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7177935)
Ashleigh threatened to smash Christopher's head into a mirror, Ashleigh called Helen an ugly bitch, Ashleigh called Kimberly a 'disgusting excuse of a woman' .. next.


...and Helen did the same only much much worse.her highlights showed her vile name calling..Ashleigh's comments were tame by comparison.

rusticgal 17-08-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 7178651)
What has Helen said to make her a vile human being? Do you seriously think anyone would attempt to answer that in full - it would take hours to write the saga of Helen's vileness in the house alone - not to mention the vile tweets of 5 years and 2 years ago respectively that have been posted on this forum.
But as for her time in the house - her vileness cannot possibly be expressed in words. For those that think she's an ace human being and the bestest winner ever, maybe it would be a good idea to go back over the many videos posted in the utube feed thread with Helen in the title and see for yourself how vile she is. I could watch a video a day for months showing examples of her vileness, but I don't need reminded of it, I already know.
But maybe those with short memories would benefit from the exercise.

Exactly...well said.

rusticgal 17-08-2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7178098)
Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

A fine summary Lostie..:cheer2:

Macie Lightfoot 17-08-2014 10:05 PM

It's worth noting that Zoe was evicted for one comment about Tesco employees, and then Helen spends the summer spitting venom and wins.

Also, remembering that Helen was an alternate for BB13 makes so much sense when you realize that her group is pretty much the Insiders with a lot more power.

Firewire 17-08-2014 10:06 PM

still waiting on receipts

Liam- 17-08-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7178761)
...and Helen did the same only much much worse.her highlights showed her vile name calling..Ashleigh's comments were tame by comparison.

No, it was exactly the same, Ashleigh was just as nasty, no way to avoid it

bots 17-08-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7178098)
Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

I can fully understand how it is possible to come to that view point. However her behaviour has to be judged in context. By that I mean the general mood of the house, the behaviour of others in the house and how they all interacted given the mental pressure being heaved on them by BB.

My own opinion is that none came out of it smelling of roses. However, I did try to look at their characters overall, and not just focus on one aspect to the exclusion of all others. Taking those other aspects of character into account, for me, and that is a very personal me I know, I felt Helen had more endearing qualities than any other housemate in there. Maybe others saw some of these things too, and that's why Helen ended up, a very marginal winner.


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