could white Dee qualify as a psychologists? yes or no poll ?
 

could white Dee qualify as a psychologists? yes or no poll ? 24.08.14

a beautiful lady
one pure delight
i am suggesting a career maybe
physiologist Dee dropping the "White".
Dee did astonish
giving me a blast
all the "media" headlines must vanish
so angry i did previously "type cast".
for Kelly she is gold
we need more people like Dee with no ration
a beautiful inside has been sold
turning me on is Dee's compassion.
then into the ring
James and George got in orderly
2 against 1 is all bling
but the champ will always be Audley.
it got uncomfortable
a nerve racking place
George as back up was affordable
did not like James having no grace.
tit for tat was corrected
but neither would retreat
Audely was right to feel disrespected
James and his back up were bitter not sweet.
fight number 2 did proceed
it was more psychology then dark
Gary did plead
Kelly's anger with Lesley nearly ended in a spark.
this was over the scrap heap
Lesely's choice was true
will Lesely in his "sew" reap
or will a game become the biggest clue.
the last fight was gripping
it had the elements of green
raised voices, clothes snipping
i could not decide Lesley or Frenchy who's the biggest Queen.
one thing for sure
this big brother has been top class
this formula and remedy is the cure
do you agree with me or am i speaking out of my ???.

( i want to find out what everyone felt about how Dee handled last night ? i was amazed by her understanding and compassion. do you think she used best her physiology skills or is she playing the best game ? if you want to rhyme back a reply i would love that. and also do you agree with me in saying this has been the best big brother that has been on ch5 ? i would send it to them for praise but they don't get poetry. )

white dee could qualify as an opportunist, is that similar?

Being a busy-body who wants to be at the centre of everyone's drama does not mean she'd make a good psychologist. In any case, she'd need some qualifications which I would lay a month's salary she doesn't have.

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i have to admit i didn't read the whole poem before i answered. but i stand by my answer.

(i still haven't read it)

There should be a poll: do you read all of Waterhog's poems right through?

I think she could make a good social worker, but not a psychologist. I don't think she's playing a game either, I think she's genuinely good at handling sticky situations and people's issues. She's probably the person I'd go to in the house if I needed a shoulder.

She could get chat show on 5

judy james better watch herself

I think the question should be, is she employable at all. And if so, why doesn't she have a job?

She's just very nosy, so i think no. :laugh:

i think you are straying off the point a little here - we are talking about CBB only.

Nope the more I think, the more I dislike her. She is trying to creep in with everyone but avoiding the one who she could possibly help. She is false.

Who do you mean by the one she could possibly help?

there is no law in saying you have to help someone. it is her choice. i am commenting on her compassion to kelly. i admire dee for this. not sure what you are talking abou but that is my point.

I say the same.

You've reached new heights in the most weird and random threads.

I have voted no but think I have been a bit unfair there.
I believe anyone has potential if they can set their minds to doing something, she could certainly start by doing a Psychology course at a College, then who knows where that could lead.

From what I have seen of her and she isn't someone I particularly like,she has a good heart as to her, she is genuinely I think interested in other people and she does listen.

So far, to be fair,I have been more impressed by her on CBB than I thought I would be at the start of the series.

she's good at handling other peoples money, the sort she steals from vulnerable people. she 'looked' after money belonging to other people who lived on her street, wonder how much of that they got back. dee is a scrounger, lazy, and a convicted thief.Become a social worker? never. she has no true compassion, she knew that the money she stole from her employers mostly belonged to people who could not look after their own affairs. she was in a position of trust, and she abused it. :nono::nono:

and she won't be able to get (thank god) because she has a criminal record for theft (£13,000), mostly from vulnerable people. :nono:

I don't even know how to reply to this. I'm just judging her on what's happened in the house. Where has this information even come from? And how does any of it go against the fact that she is good at handling people's issues? Do you think she has been good at this from what we've seen in the house? Maybe Dee is just a bit of a walking contradiction; shows compassion in some areas of life and not in others?

Also, in one sentence you call her a scrounger and lazy, presumably because she was on benefits, and in the next you say she's stolen from her employers? Don't get it.

if she can sit about all day drinking coffee and smoking, she can shift her ar.. into gear and go and get a job. but hey, now she does not need to. does anyone know what she was paid to go on big brother, I was told £100,000! .:joker::joker:

I was answering someone who thought that she would make a good social worker. dee is very good at handling peoples issues, this is probably how she got the job with Birmingham city council, trusted enough to have access to vulnerable persons money, money they had put there for safe keeping. I would not call a person a scrounger or lazy because they were on benefits. dee's reason for being unable to work was, because she had depression? dhe is the happiest, depressed person I have ever seen. her 'depression' did not stop her going away on her recent holidays, courtesy of whoever. also if you are a truly compassionate person, you would not steal from people who could not take care of their own finances. so again in the same sentence dee is a convicted criminal (thief), lazy, and a scrounger. :sleep::sleep:

no shes not as clever as shes pretending to be......she also assumed kellie was a fantastic lovely brave person, when in fact hes a nasty horrible bloke

I really don't know anything about this theft allegation so I'm not gonna argue with that. Based on her behaviour towards others in the house, I think she's (usually) fair and compassionate, a good listener, assertive when necessary, all qualities I'd associate with a good social worker. If she has stolen from vulnerable people then yes you're right, that is certainly not an example of compassion. But as I said, I try to base my opinions on behaviour in the house. I understand that some people also take pre-BB behaviour into account which you clearly do, so fair enough.

But I must say, "she's the happiest depressed person I've ever seen" is extremely insulting and the exact attitude that attaches a stigma to those with mental health issues. People with depression will often put a "happy face" on to disguise the condition in public. The disorder comes with a whole load of different symptoms aside from "not smiling" which you couldn't possibly know about. Unless you are a doctor or Clinical Psychologist, you do not have the credentials to claim that Dee has faked her depression just because she "seems happy enough".

I read one all the way through then I decided he wasn't a poet so ive never read anymore. Beats me why he writes them, but live and let live I suppose. I much prefer to read waterhogs comments in real sentences because his retorts are very well put together and sensible but the poetry thing is boring and difficult to get into.

when I stated that dee was the happiest, depressed person I had ever seen, I can assure you this was said by someone with first hand experience of mental health illness, myself. having battled depression, I am not that naïve to think that everyone with depression goes around 'not smiling', I was saying from my own experience that for the most part, I was 'very down' for the majority of the time. I am also aware that each persons depression is different. perhaps dee has a depression that only shows when, someone suggests she gets a job.:dance::dance:

Well you said it yourself. Your own experiences are not indicative of somebody else's.

that's very true. when you have depression you are told that you have to 'help yourself'. dee appears to have taken that advice verbatim when she 'helped herself' to £13,000 of her employers money. a convicted thief, lazy, and a scrounger, so glad that my own experiences are nothing like hers.

Oh here we go. Benefits debate.

i am thinking we need to close the big brother thread and start a debate a topic of morals etc and work ethic.

i am sorry to say you are all missing the point of big brother - judge them on what you are seeing and bare in mind you might be manipulated so try to keep a over all view.

I don't know anything as to her criminal conviction,it was said she was no longer on benefits.
However,that would not necessarily stop her going to a College to do a course anyway, even if she had one.
As I see it she now has a higher public profile and I think she would get a lot of support along the way if she wanted to do some work as to helping and advising others.
Experiences of life, all that can go wrong as well as what is right can be one of the best ways to learn anyway.

As for Waterhog's poems, I quite enjoy them myself,a good many I disagree with as to the content but they are for me a strong part of this forum now.

No one's missing the point. She in "celebrity" Big Brother because she's been in a TV show on the strength of her being a benefits claimant. Of course people will use that knowledge.