MP Douglas Carswell becomes first UKIP : Oct 9th By Election due in Clacton
 

Farage was Live with Douglas
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/..._28_11h24m.jpg


http://news.sky.com/story/1326103/mp...ories-for-ukip




And Farage just said some Labour MP's have UKIP views

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-mp-byelection



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I like Douglas
but he has done this without talking to the PM
typical



[He announced that he would be standing for UKIP
in the forthcoming by-election which could be held within weeks.
The Clacton MP entered Parliament in 2005,
and has frequently rebelled over European issues.
He won his first election by just 920 votes,
but was returned in 2010 with a 12,000 majority.]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3BgTRgS6x

Wow
what a MP
he did Fish and Chip Suppers
with locals.
(Ref: SkyNewsHD Live)



Mind you how many will jump ship with him
dangerous game.

from a bad party to a super **** one, gg douglas

great move from douglas

In my opinion,not his wisest move.
I actually would like to see the Clacton voters reject him in the by election.

Yes its tricky

What about it was a great move? Please go on.

The By Election is on Oct 9th Thursday
thats the PMs birthday.



Ref: Daily Politics

Or 'the day of the jackal' :hehe:

For me, I am just so annoyed any MP has now given new attention for UKIP.
I really find it incredible that voters even think of electing MP's who change sides,it doesn't show much as to loyalty.

Very sadly now,I think UKIP will take this seat but for me it is a bad day for politics if they do, the real detail of their policies is a mystery.
Perhaps the only good thing to come from it all will be if by some miracle the Conservative and Labour parties try to restore decency and legitimate combat as to elections.

Otherwise I can see the media now clamouring for UKIP at the next election and poll after poll showing a rise in the UKIP vote,hopefully and thankfully not enough to really sweep a good number of UKIP MPs inot Parliament.

By-Election 2014: Clacton

UKIP - Douglas Carswell
Liberal Democrat - Andrew Graham
Conservative - Giles Watling
Labour - Tim Young
Green - Chris Southall
Independent - Charlotte Rose
Independent - Bruce Sizer
Monster Raving Loony -Alan "Howling Laud" Hope



The Top 4 are in the run , I would say

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clacton_by-election,_2014

This Thursday Night the 9th

I've been speaking to some people who've been campaigning for the Tories in Clacton in the last few weeks and almost to a man, from the feedback they're getting on the doorstep, they think UKIP will take it.

Sadly I think they will, from what I have heard too, it seems the Conservatives are sure the seat is gone.

Hopefully UKIP will not take the other seats in by elections otherwise the media is going to swamp us with the 'massive' rise of UKIP likely right up to and including the general election.

We get the results from around 2AM in the morning

I hope Ch4HDNews has Jon Snow Live from Clacton
as 7PM

I don't think this is going to be a good time for politics in the UK, however the main parties are at fault,they need to get their act together and stop the nonsense of creating divisions between both themselves and in the UK at large,where there should in fact not be any.

Responsible politics with reasoned debate is what is needed and although UKIP,in my view, have a hidden agenda that I doubt many would like if they really knew it, it is UKIP and Nigel Farage particularly who seem the most plausible as to responsible and reasoned debate.
As Nigel Farage showed in his debates with the calamity that was Nick Clegg,who was simply childish and out of step all the time.

I hope, if they are going to win any of these by elections, then that is only one of them and no more before the 2015 election, otherwise,the whole 2015 camaign will likely be a crazy mixed up media circus all about where UKIP are in the polling.

I remember Clacton being infamous for a pitched battle between 'Mods and Rockers', now it's infamous for a pitched battle between 'Sods off their Rockers'. :hehe::hehe:

:joker:

Yes is so
much fun hearing the old folk people talk,

Farage was on a Tank yesterday

Be lovely if Carswell lost but a Ukip win is pretty inevitable surely?

I would love to see Carswell lose but sadly I don't think he will.

The other by election too with only a 36% turnout is likely going to add to the UKIP frenzy with the media,however there, Labour will hold the seat.

I also think if it is a really good win for UKIP in the Clacton by-election that it will only keep them running forward again to the next by election which I think they could also win when it takes place.

Not a good night for politics in my view is this going to be.

Said on question time the turnout in Clacton was 50% sorry to add this here but grrrrr! that fathead pickles is flaming annoying!

Eric Pickles is always annoying, I loved it when that woman kept getting at him to answer the private healthcare question.

Jeanette Winterson was great wasn't she? He more or less admitted that under them the NHS as we know it is gone :(

My thoughts too Kizzy but then I have had those thoughts as to the Conservative party for the last 4 years at least now.

Wow, really tight finish in Heywood and Middleton, Conservative vote crashes but only just over 600 votes between Labour winning and UKIP in 2nd place,albeit on a much smaller turnout.

38 minutes ago
Ukip jeers during Liz McInne's victory speech
Labour has held Heywood and Middleton after Liz McInnes was elected as the constituency's new MP.

Speaking after the result, Ms Innes was booed by Ukip supporters, who lost by on 617 votes, as she declared that only Labour would protect the NHS.

Pathetic cretins, so glad they lost.

1 hour ago
'Ukip request a recount at Heywood and Middleton
A recount is taking place in the Heywood and Middleton byelection following a request from Ukip.'

:joker:

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-1...ount-underway/

Oh ffs...

9 minutes ago
Douglas Carswell elected Ukip's first MP
Douglas Carswell has been elected Ukip's first MP in the Clacton byelection.

Great news, amazing results for UKIP tonight and Farage should be proud he has worked hard for this

And well done to all the loadsamoney bigots...good job.

Oh yeah I forgot you had a hate fetish for UKIP, Silly me.

Yes
amazing when old Carswell
when he walks in as the first UKIP MP

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-942x530.jpg

http://news.sky.com/politics

Call Farage about to happen on lbc

http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-far...e-on-lbc-96464

Well done, great result for UKIP the first of many I'm sure. Can feel the Political sands shifting as I write this.

Labour blaming UKIP for losing votes, Tories blaming UKIP for losing votes, Lib Dems only blame Nick Clegg for losing votes.

It can't all be down to UKIP can it ?

Maybe if the established parties actually listened to what the GBP actually want and didn't just treat us all like fools, then maybe parties like UKIP would remain small fringe party's.

But UKIP is on the rise and that Political Earthquake is just round the corner.




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The Labour vote actually held up okay in Heywood and Middleton,after all the won the seat and UKIP did not, it is all very well to storm into 2nd place in elections but that doesn't win the seat.
The results tonight would see a Labour Govt elected,and UKIP still unlikely to take any Labour seats.

However, as by elections go, these are more important because it is a 4th party who have in effect won the greatest results tonight namely UKIP.
I hope the voters wake up however and realise if they really care about the NHS that although it is true,the Conservatives cannot be trusted with that,the other fact is that UKIP cannot be trusted with it even moreso than the Conservative party.

When the general election comes, in both by election seats,with a larger turnout in 2015, then there will be a likely move towards both Labour in Heywood and Middleton and to the Conservatives in Clacton.
However I now don't see the Conservatives regaining Clacton and I also feel they could lose the other by election to come too.

Congratulations to UKIP on these results but I do hope the voters think very hard again in 2015 as to risking voting for them.
Equally, the other parties, Labour included, need to connect much more with the voters and stop taking voters for granted.
Their namecalling and petty squabbling doesn't help and for as long as Nigel Farage is leading UKIP,they are going to gain success in elections.

I read into the results last night that Conservative voters are turning away more than the polls suggest.
For Labour their voters have said, we are with you still but only just,we need more from you.

I hope Clacton is the last major UKIP success,for me it is unfortunate that UKIP have an MP now.
Having said that, I am not that sure we do have 4 party politics, if UKIP have risen firmly and these sort of votes are not a temporary thing, then really the Lib Dems are out of the main race at present and may not be in a position to be termed a 'main' party,ending up with minority status.
They did shocking in both by election results for a Party in shared Govt for the last 4 and half years.

Nigel Farage to his credit does connect with voters,he cannot be in 650 seats in a general election but definitely full credit to him for his efforts in securing the Clacton victory yesterday.

The Labour vote actually held up okay in Heywood and Middleton,after all they won the seat and UKIP did not, it is all very well to storm into 2nd place in elections but that doesn't win the seat.
The results tonight would see a Labour Govt elected,and UKIP still unlikely to take any Labour seats.

However, as by elections go, these are more important because it is a 4th party who have in effect won the greatest results tonight namely UKIP.
I hope the voters wake up however and realise if they really care about the NHS that although it is true,the Conservatives cannot be trusted with that,the other fact is that UKIP cannot be trusted with it even moreso than the Conservative party.

When the general election comes, in both by election seats,with a larger turnout in 2015, then there will be a likely move towards both Labour in Heywood and Middleton and to the Conservatives in Clacton.
However I now don't see the Conservatives regaining Clacton and I also feel they could lose the other by election to come too.

Congratulations to UKIP on these results but I do hope the voters think very hard again in 2015 as to risking voting for them.
Equally, the other parties, Labour included, need to connect much more with the voters and stop taking voters for granted.
Their namecalling and petty squabbling doesn't help and for as long as Nigel Farage is leading UKIP,they are going to gain success in elections.

I read into the results last night that Conservative voters are turning away more than the polls suggest.
For Labour their voters have said, we are with you still but only just,we need more from you.

I hope Clacton is the last major UKIP success,for me it is unfortunate that UKIP have an MP now.
Having said that, I am not that sure we do have 4 party politics, if UKIP have risen firmly and these sort of votes are not a temporary thing, then really the Lib Dems are out of the main race at present and may not be in a position to be termed a 'main' party,ending up with minority status.
They did shocking in both by election results for a Party in shared Govt for the last 4 and half years.

Nigel Farage to his credit does connect with voters,he cannot however be able to be in 650 seats in a general election but definitely full credit to him for his efforts in securing the Clacton victory yesterday.

Nigel did will this morning bearing in mind he had no sleep!

In stark contrast was the woeful display by Grant Shapps MP - Conservative Party Chairman who was on earlier and literally read from his party line crib sheet by starting every reply with "well Ed Milliband" and banging on about vote UKip and get labour in yada yada - its the same scare politics they used in Scotland and it stinks - vote for who you feel represents your views, period.

Useless pillock

Bang on right Nedusa :thumbs:

I used to like Grant Schapps LeatherTrumpet but in the role he has now he just comes across as plain daft as to what he is expected to say.

He just doesn't get,as neither does most of the Conservative party, that in their statements of 'vote UKIP, get Ed Miliband',the voters are not even listening because of one reason, they certainly don't want the Conservatives led by David Cameron either.

I still see a Labour 2015 election win after these by elections but I do agree, they are too surprisingly losing votes to UKIP, I'd say it is the former Lib Dem voters who went back to Labour that are now, in the main,keeping the party ahead.

The 2015 election is I feel sure going to throw up some really wild results and I do also believe UKIP will be a major factor and are here to stay at least for that election anyway.

have you had time to listen to Carswell's speech last night, very interesting in terms of his future role at Ukip and its possible direction?

Actually he would likely make a good leader of UKIP when Nigel Farage decides to stand down.
I liked Douglas Carswells point about him feeling he can now do what he came into politics to do.

he won, really well too, good luck to him in that.