If Gary is as rude and unhygienic as the HMs say...
 

...its quite possible that BB are planning a 'fall at the last hurdle' by clever editting and could well show Gary in this light in order to achieve a sneak win by another HM.

Similar to the clever editting that portrayed a somewhat 'redemption' story for Helen who went on to win BB15. They may well even try to push this again with James.

Lets see!

I don't think it would work. Gary must be getting a huge percentage of the vote.

I said it on here earlier today but he really would have to kill a small animal on live TV to lose this now.

I think Gary's "bad bits" are being edited out.

Didn't Stephanie say on BOTS his fee was £500,000? If that's true BB will want to protect their investment until the final anyway.

After Helen winning I think they can push any outcome to be quite honest. The public seem happy to follow :laugh:

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He admits that he can come across as rude, his "what" is very offputting. It will be interesting to see though if he is allowed to win. The powers that be have needed him for ratings but now at the end? I do not trust anyone tbh. Most have always said that he isnt as daft as they think he is but it has been their conception of the 7 and the 0 instead of looking at the man himself. Kellie and Stephanie say he is manipulative but what have they been, to all intents and purposes Stephanie seemed to be a part of George, Kellie has put herself forward with her pitying ways. They have no room to talk at all but it is a game and they have mostly paid some part of the game. They all want to win......

Well we certainly aren't seeing what the housemates see of Gary.

The only conclusion can be it is editing decisions.

James told Gary that the winner got a bonus of 500k. James and the rest of the housemates found this very funny. That's what Stephanie was referring to

I like Gary hes one of my favourites and I feel sorry for him at times in there but I think its a real possibility actually. All the HMs are consistent about his serious lack of hygiene and rudeness (example of pushing people out the way has been mentioned several times now).

The poo incident with BB12 Jay was editted out and this with Gary probably has too. I cant see why somebody would make such a story up :shrug:

That said I havnt seen this 'awful' side of Gary as such and so cant unfairly judge him on it, but it sounds like BB have been kind, it just depends on the extent.

Like your previous favourite housemates this summer?

They wouldn't do that to him as its very disrespectful.

The furthest they have gone with letting the public known about the hygiene situation is simply the housemates talking to him about it and then live when they come out but they cant control that.

Im sure Busey will win hes got my vote ;)

:laugh: agreed. And after Gary and James being saved as the top two tonight I can see another Helen vs. Ashleigh top two feud with the final night voting. That must have made them a sh*t tonne of money on the BB15 final.

Why don't you grow some brain cells and stop attacking people personally and basing their entire forum manner on a housemate they used to support in a previous series.

Getting stupid now.

Go and ask your mother how to multi task or im here if you want me to teach you how you can have a good opinion on a housemate but also understand where others are coming from when they don't say the sun shines out of his arse.

It has already been shown clearly on 2 or 3 occasions how rude and nasty Gary is.

1. When Gary stared across at Stephanie like a stalker with a scary stare while she was under the covers trying her best to hide from him and have some privacy.

2. When he said to George "No way, buddie" and showed he has no tolerance towards others human mistakes

3. When he told Dee "It's nomination time again soon," or words to that effect which was an obvious threat, and clearly not the action or thought pattern, far too clever and a sneaky under hand threat for some one who is too brain damaged.

Well we know he's rude and unhygienic anyway

They're just a bunch of thoughtless, un-caring, self-obsessed twats and it fits their treatment of him better if they all just stick to the "oh, the guy who pretty much keeps himself to himself and does more than anyone to try and fit in and please people is in reality an absolute nightmare and a mean, nasty, horrible man and we all agree.....don't we guys.....guys ?!!!".
As the numbers get fewer they're all seeing him increasingly as the person who's going to stop them winning so they're gonna' do anything they can to try and turn the viewers against him!
If anyone has any doubts about Gary's character you only have to watch anything where he's with his young son a his (beautiful!) fiance! He's a great bloke, an amazing father (particularly considering his age!) and his fiance loves him to bits.
That's why it amazes me that anyone thinks what this bunch of turds think about him has and relevance or bearing on anything other than to confirm what a bunch of saddo loser z-listers they are (apart from Audley!) and just how threatened they feel by the presence of a real celebrity and someone who is an individual and not a follower like they are!

When i hear the "well they're all saying it so it must be true" thing spouted by the odd numpty dink i can't help but laugh and feel thankful that i've never been a follower sheep and that i always make my own opinions regardless of what anyone might prefer me to believe for whatever reason!

****-em all..............rejoice in the uniqueness of Mr Gary Busey!!!!!!:clap1:

Seriously
 

1. What about when Dee and Lauren were talking about him when he was right there?

2. When Stephanie shouted in his face.

3. When James told him he was like a child.

4. When he asked 'May I finish?' and James said 'No you may not.'

5. When he said to Stephanie please be nice and she said I am nice to everyone except you because I don't like you.

6. When Stephanie shouted over to Dee have you got a new pet because Gary asked to have a word with her and she was leading him over to seating.

7. When James told him even a dog can learn new tricks.

8. When Dee shouted in his face on two occasions, the last time calling him sly.

9. When Dee bitched about him for half an hour after an argument.

10. When Leslie called him a has been.

11. When Ricci nominated and said he was disgusting and a bad role model. (Coming from someone who has sex and gets so drunk he can't stand on tv).

12. When he was cleaning up and they started to laugh about him and mock him on live feed. One of them said 'He's right there.' 'It's ok he can't hear.'

And all the many many other times that I can't recall off the top of my head.
Yeah it's really Gary who is rude and nasty. NOT.

But that's ok because he might have missed the toilet when he peed?

Well we have no 24/7 live feed. So very easy for all the "bad bits" to be edited out and then the producers put it all in when they want to get rid of him. They did it with Helen.

The show is basically a theatrical production now anyway. They create a story and shape it how they like. It's just TOWIE in a house. The beauty and power of editing.

As the old saying goes, 15 wrongs don't make a right! :laugh:

Yep, Gary's rude... and yep, so is everybody bleeding else. Just because they have been rude to him doesn't erase the fact he has been rude to them and vice versa.

I would agree that some housemates have shown much ruder behaviour to him than he has to them, but doesn't mean he is not at any fault here.

Don't forget the time that he and Frenchy were sent to the scrapheap and james said "Its great that the 2 freakos are out there together"

Oh and when Stephanie said to him "that's what you get for being an arsehole!" Even one of her fellow housemates told her that was nasty.

When has he been rude to them? I haven't seen a single instance.

It just boggles my brain that anyone on here thinks that is acceptable. People jump on any criticism of him and try to use it to discredit him when that isn't even the point.

I've watched the live feed and haven't seen one instance of the behaviour they describe but even if he was spitting in James dinner every day, that is no excuse to treat him like a piece of ****.

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The nomination comment to Dee was rude. Him asking if she was asking for a fight was rude in a really weird way, unless I misunderstood. He does interrupt sometimes which can be seen as rude but I don't think it's too bad tbh. The way he was with David about the icepack thing was rude too, dunno why he felt the need to repeat that one icepack wasn't enough. Sometimes his language is rude, though after 19 days they should probably just accept it now that he means no malice. I have seen him push into people e.g. at the sink, and considering a few of them are mentioning it I believe it is true he does it a lot.

He's also really nice at other times, many times I believe. He's extremely kind at times where I'd expect anybody else to be really rude (and I know I would be!!) But he's not flawless, none of us are.

I'm afraid you're right. Helen was detested, and then the splicers and editors went to work, and the tide turned. Even Helen was amazed that she won.

I don't see any of that as rude.

How does that compare to stephanie saying "thats what you get for being an arsehole" and james calling him a "freako?"

Unless we are going to claim that saying "what?" etc due to his deafness is rude then I really don't see what he has done that is rude.

I think he is probably the nicest, calmest and most tolerant housemate that has ever been in there.

Fair enough if that isn't rude in your opinion. Some of it isn't that bad to me either but clearly offends some people.

It doesn't "compare" to them calling him names, but that doesn't mean it's ok. James calling Gary a freako isn't so bad compared to somebody punching Gary in the face, but it doesn't mean it's ok to call him a freako.

Agree with your final sentence, and I am a Gary fan for those reasons too :)

kellie was paid £400,000. did not protect her.:nono:

..I think what it comes down to is that they just don't like him. or a lot of them don't because he just doesn't 'fit'..he doesn't want to talk about the same things, is someone they don't understand and when you don't like someone I think all of their negatives are just highlighted and that can be all that you see..and I'm sure he has many negatives so they probably feel justified and when it's a 'group feeling' it just 'feeds' really/they feed each other..anyway whatever their feelings are and wherever they have come from and however valid etc...their behaviour and reactions/actions as a 'group' have been inexcusable no matter how much any of them try to excuse them....

That was common knowledge anyway. :pat:
You want the talent its going to cost.
Gary is a big fish in a small pond.
Plebs like James are just pond scum.

Give me a break. If they wanted to manipulate things to make the best show possible they would have not have allowed the public to evict Leslie or Frenchy. Love them or hate them, they were stirring things up and were exactly the kind of housemates BB hopes for.

He's the same as all the others. An annoying twunt!

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So true

I think Bully Elliot may have seen the most recent BB and decided to let his natural self go into the BB house thinking that {misguidedly} he could quite easily replicate Helen. Thinking that he had some likable qualities that would pull him through at the end.

The problem is- he doesn't have any!!!! For the people {posters} on here that are liking Helen to Bully Elliot they are so way off the mark and don't see it how it is, there are non so blind that they cannot see. As I have just said in a previous post in another thread, they are poles apart in their nature. Helen wasn't deliberately nasty, she reacted to people pressing her buttons- she was reactive and learnt that how she dealt with that was wrong. She had a lot of likable qualities and the British public could see that.

Bully Elliot- on the other hand- is the total opposite. Much more like Dee. He's the instigator of nastiness, and all the accusations he levels at other house mates is really him holding up a mirror to himself and seeing,subconsciously what he doesn't like about himself. He has very low self esteem. Even more so since he was kicked off Strictly and at 36 he's probably like a scared little boy. Where does he go from here? Washed up dancer-unemployable. A reputation of been a trouble maker. He is displaying all of the traits of someone who has major hang ups and anxieties. I mean, what is it with Alpha male sh!t honestly, I have never heard so much bull sh!t in all my born days and as for him trying to prove himself to be one just highlights even more how he feels threatened by everything around him.

Everything he does in there is contrived from his false chuckle- to he constant agitating - not game playing- this is how is on the outside world, just magnified. I can see him being in confrontation after confrontation after he leaves the house as I would imagine there is many a male out there that would love to knock his lights out. Shame it was Kellie in there and not Frank or we would have seen some action. Audley is too nice to put him in his place. Frank wouldn't have backed down and would have seen right through him and his opaque, plastic personality.

How many times has he said " Oh, I am intelligent" and in the same sentence said - "unlike you"? Or I am a" nice person" etc all self evaluation. What he's actually saying is " I don't like myself and I am not worthy"


My God, I have never despised such a house mate since the one that Alison Hammond was in, I can't remember the girls name but she was a DJ from Birmingham.

Cant believe anyone would believe what that vindictive cow would say,out of all the housemates ,she is the coldest and slyest and really devoid of any self awareness.

I think the bad edit toward gary has started tonight. He was shown shouting at james and they have just shown Steph saying that Gary said he was going nowhere.