Conservative Lord Freud issued a 'full and unreserved apology'
 

The Labour Leader brought this up at PM's question.

A recording taken from a fringe meeting
is Not Policy
and never will be.



[welfare minister Lord Freud faces calls to be sacked after saying disabled people 'are not worth' the minimum wage

Lord Freud recorded speaking at the Conservative party conference
Responding to a question about what disabled people should be paid
He said there was a 'small group' who are 'not worth' the £6.50 rate
Said he was looking at how someone could be paid just £2-an-hour
Forced to issue a 'full and unreserved apology' after row erupted at PMQs ]



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3GE81k9II

There go the Conservatives again, only opening their mouths to change feet.

But its not even a Real Policy
Easy to spin this like Labour Leader did.


Its a Fringe meeting from 2 weeks ago or so,
saved for today

****ing scum.

Would there have been any apology or comeback however had this not been overheard, that is the real concern.

I am sorry but having seen the devastation brought to some of the disabled individuals and their families lives by the policies of this Govt.
His comments actually ring more true with me than does David Cameron's supposed official line.

It is claimed this 'Lord' has done great work for the Govt. as to welfare reform, not from where I am sitting looking at it , and just maybe this is the real line,'IF' they could ever get the chance to get away with doing it that is.

yes saved for today but still in date just

Freud thought he got away with it well he did not :dance::dance::dance::dance:

he need the sack fast and now i am on the case it will happen

He should have been fired on the spot tbh

Bit harsh on the disableds Morsh

Not possible
it was the Live PMQ's


Also its a edit
so you do not have the full context.



The PM stated is never going to be Policy
Live

:fan:

We know that the PM stated it will never be policy. I believe that. However, surely the best way to condemn the statement is to fire/suspend the mp.

Yes Remove him could come
depends on the Front pages.



sadly we can no longer post
as SkyNews site has taken away the img jpg etc (for papers only)
on the new updated site

This is the guy whose policies are quoted as "making the poor pay for the risk-taking of the rich."

Not bad comments about disabled pay coming from a man who spends more on one meal dining out than the average family have to live on for a week.

Beneath contempt.

David Cameron said there would be no policy of a top down re-organisation of the NHS but he did it.

I wouldn't put my trust in him or bet on what he says as to this new issue too as having any long truth to it now.

I agree with those who say that this Lord should have resigned and if he won't then he should be sacked and have not a single thing more to do as to welfare reform or the disabled.

One word..........twat!

"I agree with those who say that this Lord should have resigned "


Yes that may come

Remind me again why we have lords :umm2:

He should be sacked. No question... if I made as big a gaff as this at work I'd be out.

So the government can't knee-jerk laws through because it suits them. However... the place needs a good clear out.

Now it's not so much a 'Job for the Boys', but more a 'Jobs for the Old Boys' - those past their 'sell by'. The whole system needs abolishing.

house of lords literally needs to be abolished

I don't know about abolished Josh but maybe that will in the end be the only way to fully reform it.

I am not really in favour of another elected 2nd chamber, with elections likely taking place halfway through one Parliament and then more problems caused by the 2nd chamber.

The Lords, have on a good few occasions curbed the extremes of some policies from Govts. by delaying the process and sending things back to the Commons to be voted on again.
It has its uses at times but it does need reforming and also to be made far more representative of the Country as a whole.

I actually doubt however that any major Lords reform will happen for a very long time.
It is one of those things that gets talked about a lot but never even gets to the first steps let alone all the way as to the journey of major reform.

Agree with all that, Joey.

Did anyone see that little apologist dweeb on c4 news? 'He shouldn't be demonised for thinking aloud' shut the eff up!

You shouldn't need the Lords to do that though. A proper Constitution/Bill of Rights could serve the same purpose of protection.

It goes back
from before America was born
The Lords is still needed in England


Those old gits get £300 a day tax free
because they made the rules up
that needs to change

I agree Lostalex, however it is by whom such a bill of rights would be made from and more to the point who puts the input into compiling same.

Sadly the Political parties in the UK are too full of self interest and one party,in fact 2 of them together,could not be, (I certainly wouldn't),be trusted to bring in such a bill of rights.

It is something that would need the biggest consultation yet of the whole of the people of the UK and all the areas of interested parties too, finally the cooperation of full areement for all inclusions by all the Parties of the whole UK too.

Therein lies the UKs major problem as to the people it elects to power,in the absence of all that, it would seem it is the Lords chamber that we are stuck with.
I really cannot see a major change coming about at all,(although I would love to see it happen),this is always an issue that just gets a lot of hot air said as to it but then always gets shelved by all Govts.

I see what you are saying, perhaps then you could ask an international body like The Commonwealth to draft a Constitution. With no input from any major UK political party. If the Uk actually believes in it's Commonwealth partners, let them draft a Constitution. Let it be a Constitution for all of the Commonwealth. A Bill of Rights that transcends all petty party politic/. An institution that provides basic human rights and codifies basic law in real permanent language for all of the lands of the Commonwealth.

I suggest the US Constitution as a starting point. Try to make a better US Constitution. Everyone loves to say they can do better than the US, so take our document and prove us wrong, make it better.

See,This is what happens when a Tory MP opens his mouth..........
The truth comes out of it.
These kind of things are what i believe alot of these MP's think privately but usually have the common sense not to air in public.
These people don't care about us.
I was in a local chippy today and overheard somebody saying that someone they knew was in court because they have a disabled family member and were being hit with the bedroom tax which they can't afford and they needed two rooms so that family members/carers can stay over to care for them.This is how this government treat disabled people,No compassion.

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This is the case a lot more than many people think it is EyeballPaul.
What you have heard there is what I have come across loads in the last near 18 months since this accursed policy came into action

The Govt. and Ian Duncan Smith have been told repeatedly by the CAB, Welfare rights organisations,carers and charities who all deal with the disabled as to this happening and it is always dismissed by them.

This policy is a disgrace and it says everything about the people who introduced it as to how petty, rotten and heartless they really are towards people who are the most vulnerable.

Totally disgusting and also discriminating too, this policy is costing as much,if not more, to implement than it is saving anything of note.
Truly beyond any rational defence.

His full and frank apology is worthless from someone in his position. It's out there now. You can't unring a bell.