Band Aid Ebola 30?
 

But say a prayer – pray for the other ones

At Christmas time – it’s hard but while you’re having fun

There’s a world outside your window – and it’s a world of dread and fear

Where a kiss of love can kill you – and there’s death in every tear

And the Christmas bells that ring there – are the clanging chimes of doom

Well tonight we’re reaching out and touching you


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We know that a group of millionaire celebrities have spent an afternoon singing asking us to donate money for a disease in principally 3 small African countries that has killed around 5000 people. But look at the actual lyrics

"There’s a world outside your window – and it’s a world of dread and fear"


Really, when i look out my window i see hills and sheep, in fact when I recall the last Tibb thread on what is outside your window no one replied with "dread and fear"

"And there is death in every tear" -again I am not sure what that means either.

And the logo shows the whole of Africa - that is a bit nasty to 90% of the rest of Africa that is Ebola free.

How do you feel about all this?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...orld-tour.html

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetwo.../u2-net-worth/

There are 3 times as many Christians in Nigeria than in England and Wales


So One imagines that they in fact Do know its Christmas time....


(Thank you Radio 2 for that stat)

Well, the window thing... the celebrities are obviously trying to open our eyes to the real world because we live such cosseted lives, with people giving us free stuff and lackeys to run around catering to our every whim so we obviously don't comprehend the hardships that go on in the real world. Oh no hang on... that's them.

I feel sorry for all the poor African people who now have Ebola to contend with.

Thanks to Sir Bob as we all know his efforts in putting together the original Band Aid and then Live Aid pretty much eradicated ALL hunger and poverty in Africa.

But now with nasty Ebola on the rise there I guess he will raise enough money through this amazing single to eradicate Ebola from Africa.

Thank God for Sir Bob doing the jobs ALL Govt's simply cannot get done.

I think Sir Bob should get another Knighthood for his efforts and we can start calling him Sir Sir Bob or Sir squared Bob....maybe even offer to cut his distinguished locks.

Whatta Guy....................

I feel you are thinking to much into one sentence of the song tbh and lucky you, that you see something nice when you look out of a window but not everyone does, I'm not just talking about disease and famine either, no one knows what kind of hardships are waiting round the corner for them.

The celebs are trying to encourage people to help in any way they can, it's a very bad day when acts of kindness like that get looked down upon IMHO.

Also

This is referring to the way the virus can be carried. The relatives of people that have the virus can't touch them, clean them, wipe their tears and so on because of the risks of catching the disease.

I know, what the hell is wrong with people?

I think people are just fed up with groups like Bono (net worth of U2 £800,000,000) asking folk for money for issues that we already contribute to via taxes.

Yes, I guess especially the 20,000 old aged UK pensioners who will die this year from being cold as they cant afford to heat their homes.

And money gets raised through charities for that sort of thing too, as well as the food donations and so on...they also receive cold weather payments.

It's crazy eh? if you don't want to donate to a certain cause then don't do it, no one is being forced fgs.

but so they get anywhere near the publicity?

Age UK is one of the largest well known charities and they talk about the effects of winter on the elderly a lot so I would say yeah.

I doubt they made it on every news channel, every newspaper, every news website and and nearly all radio stations however....


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Well the fact is that there are dozens of worthwhile causes, it's unrealistic to expect them all to receive equal attention. That's just self-evident really.

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I have found it difficult to get my Charity for tall blonde lipstick- lesbians with large breasts "Strapadicktomy UK" off the ground and its idiots like Gandalf and his celeb pals that are making it more difficult:fist:

In fact it would not have even got past the initial round of fund raising without a sizeable donation from Ninastar...

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I'm sure they do :think:

No good deed goes unpunished eh?

The tear thing is what apparently inspired him to rerelease the song.An African nurse died after wiping a childs tear away
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...id-single.html

So, without sounding heartless, its was death from one tear, it has been claimed

and I doubt that was proven, it sounds anecdotal at best

Yeah she probs got vommed on too or something.

Band Aid as a whole is just a patronising platform for Bob Geldof to get attention and to slate anyone who has the audacity to not want to stroke his ego. I'd rather donate directly to the charities and cut out the self obsessed middleman.

I agree. I give to Medecins Sans Frontieres regularly anyway, as well as contributing through tax to the massive effort the UK has put into helping alleviate this crisis. I'm sure lots of people have given to all kinds of charities for this cause. I don't need Harry Styles & Co warbling to remind me that there's a world outside my window. I know there is, and so do most people. And furthermore, Bob Geldof hasn't done too badly out of the whole Live Aid/Band Aid thing, without it he would just be the frontman of a pretty average band who had a couple of hits in the 80s and not the demigod he has become. There are plenty of people working their backsides off for charity for their whole lives without ever reaping the kind of rewards or getting the recognition Bob Geldof has enjoyed. If people want to buy the record, good for them. I won't be buying it though.

Couldn't have put it better. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

Ffs. :joker:

Yet isn't that the point of these campaigns? To draw people's attention to these causes that wouldn't receive as many donations unless this "middleman" helped publicise them?

I completely agree. I literally cannot stand Geldof, and he's only getting worse over time. Also, this is what he had to say of Adele for not playing along with his little celeb circle-wank:

:facepalm:... Yes Bob. She's raising a family. Awful, isn't it? Who does she think she is?? Maybe she should spend a little less time raising her family and a little more time inflating her own ego to the point of overblown messiah complex, until said family ends up so miserable that they end up killing themselves with a massive heroin overdose. Like a PROPER celebrity family, goshdarnit!!

Don't you find it a little patronising to have some pop stars remind people that there's a world outside your window? Before they bugger off back to their sprawling Hampstead pad or their penthouse, their limo swooping past elderly people eeking out a living, hospitals that are busy shaking tin cups for cash and homeless people living on the street, of course... but they're not quite so headline-grabbing right now. It's less Band Aid and more Band Waggon if you as me.

Lovin' your work, TS.

This is one of the richest countries in the world, and while the particular problem you highlight is immensely regrettable, the sad fact is, that it's the effect of many, many, causes - of which, the unequal distribution of wealth, insufficient Government action, the unfettered greed of the utility companies, and the lack of forward planning by certain of the old people in question, are just some of them.

As already pointed out by other FM's, however, some preventative, remedial, and compensatory, policies are in place to alleviate - though sadly not eradicate - the problem of OAP's struggling to stay warm in this country each Winter, and I cannot fathom how this problem has any bearing on whether people in a democracy should elect to donate to a given charity or not?

I personally respect Bob Geldorf and what he has done for charity over the years. I do not see any cynical motives in either the man's reason for continuing to capitalise on his - still valid - celebrity status to benefit good causes, nor in the re-written lyrics of the Band Aid single, and I think it's both pedantic and petty for people to find fault with either.

Spoiled, immature, selfish brat 'pop stars' receive less flak for punching press photographers and fans, wrecking hotel rooms in drug-fueled frenzies, and inciting illegal rebellion in impressionable kids, than this quiet, polite, and thoroughly decent man receives because he tries to make this sick, saddo, fecked up world, a little bit of a better place to live in.

I'm baffled.

Of course it is to some degree.

But then it's all about perspective. Me doing things to raise money for one cause and then slinking back to my comfortable life in my house with heating, food, drink, clothes, luxuries etc whilst thousands of people are sleeping on the streets is also unfair. But that's life.

I don't see it as the pop stars preaching to us, but about "us" as in everyone. I'm sure many, if not all, of these participants do their own bit for charity.

Comments taken out of context. In his TV interview he did for the news he spoke about how she wasn't even contacted by him.

It was the media twisting his words to sound like something else.

But you trying to demonise the man for his good causes whilst simultaneously coming out with that line in bold is amusing.

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Well said Marsh - all poverty and hardship is relative, unfair, but a very real fact of life.

As to the emboldened bit - when I was younger, I cynically questioned why multi-millionaire 'stars' didn't just bung in a million each from their own pockets, but as I've read more things about just this subject over the years, I know that they do give a hell of a lot to good causes - most of it in private.

Jeez what a rotten thing to say :bored:

I support several charities regularly, and I certainly don't "slink back" to my comfortable house. I'm proud of the charities I support, and if I didn't work hard I wouldn't be able to support them - most of them in the UK but not exclusively. And the UK gives billions in foreign aid. Look at what we've done for the ebola crisis already! bundles of cash in foreign aid, charitable donations, a Royal Navy ship, loads of medics, doctors and nurses... and yet every time I see Geldof he's insinuating - and sometimes just coming out and saying - that we're not doing enough. I guess it's not so much the song that gets on my pecs, it's the unrelenting self-righteousness of Saint Bob. Well, he's preaching to the converted in many cases. Make your record Bob, sell it and shut up.

At the end of the day, it's raising a bit of money for a good cause. If you agree with it, buy the single.. And if you don't, donate elsewhere if you wish :shrug:

I do see where you're coming from. I don't see it as him insinuating that we're not doing enough, simply that more is needed. Which is something that will always be the case. No matter how much is given to charity, more will always be needed. There's always somebody/something in need.

I just think some of the reactions in this thread about a man doing his charity projects are OTT. As Jake says, you can either donate to it, or ignore it. Overall, what he's doing is more good than bad.

Come on T.S. - we can be the best parents in the world but we cannot 'police' our kids for the rest of our lives, to ensure that they only make 'good' choices once they have grown up.

Geldorf blaming himself for his daughter's drug overdose is the natural reaction of any grief-stricken parent who loses a child - 'I could have done more' 'I have failed as a parent' etc. In truth, his daughter was 25 and living her own life away from Bob, and on top of the fact that 'celebrity' lifestyles are often far-removed from those of 'ordinary' people, and crazy and decadent by comparison, is the very real fact, that to some degree, Peaches' fate was preordained because of her genetic inheritance from her mother Paula - herself a neurosis riddled, psychologically fragile, emotionally disturbed tragic character.

By all accounts Bob was not responsible for his daughter's heroin addiction, any more than he was for Paula's drug abuse, or promiscuity, and he did his utmost to try to get both to come off drugs.

I really don't think this poor guy deserves to be slated because two members of his family died so tragically, because both were linked, and both were not of his doing.

I want to vomit every time I see something like that written down, slurs about what happened to his daughter brought into a debate about raising funds to fight ebola... urgh.

Nobody want's ebola to spread but are not forward thinking enough to see this as a practical solution, as said nobody is twisting anyones arm to get them to buy it are they?