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andybigbro 26-11-2014 10:27 PM

Who votes Kendra?
 
I don't understand!
It's NOT entertaining for her to NOT do the trial. She barely tries it! I would muh prefer see someone actually doing a full trial!

:mad:

Marsh. 26-11-2014 10:29 PM

I've never understood the mentality of always voting the Flanagan's in.

Their meltdowns are not even entertaining the first time.

I want to watch people actually attempt the trials and have a good go like Mel and Jimmy.

GypsyGoth 26-11-2014 10:32 PM

I don't understand people voting for Kendra either. The trials become boring when she does them, and they're meant to be the highlight of the show.

Raph 26-11-2014 11:10 PM

Just girls block voting out of jealousy I say, and I really don't mean that in a sexist way but it just seems every girl I know dislikes Kendra :(

Marsh. 26-11-2014 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 7392636)
Just girls block voting out of jealousy I say, and I really don't mean that in a sexist way but it just seems every girl I know dislikes Kendra :(

*waits for feminist members to rip you a new arsehole*

coco the clown 27-11-2014 07:26 AM

I agree there are others in there that have done nothing, so to give then air time we have them telling something we already know
The format is stale now, time to give this tired old 'reality game show' a rest

Liam- 27-11-2014 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 7392636)
Just girls block voting out of jealousy I say, and I really don't mean that in a sexist way but it just seems every girl I know dislikes Kendra :(

My Mum doesn't like her purely because she's American :laugh:

Strictly Jake 27-11-2014 08:57 AM

I don't thinks ant and dec could get any more annoyed at her doing the trials. It's written all over their faces. I would like to see Nadia or Vicky do a trial, give them a little bit more airtime. Or michael or Edwina could be interesting

Niamh. 27-11-2014 09:15 AM

I'd really like to see someone new do a trial, it's just boring now, happens every flippin year

Crimson Dynamo 27-11-2014 09:27 AM

I think the producers must be grade A imbiciles

It is clear to everyone that twats like kendra doing trials and failing badly is NOT what we want to see, yer every year...

tbh the show would die on its arse if it were not for A&D

sampvt 27-11-2014 09:49 AM

People voting for Kendra have a beef with the show. People voting for her because she is simply American is just plain stupid and wanting to see the producers upset is like cutting your nose off to spite your face. I blame it on sad little ****s that spend all day locked away in their bedrooms with a keyboard for their BFF and want the system to fail. I don't buy into the normal mainstream voters wanting to see a prostitute failing week in and week out, it just does not compute in my world.

Niamh. 27-11-2014 10:10 AM

Sam for someone who's always talking about having respect for others you sure do like your nasty derogatory terms for women and I don't even like Kendra

kirklancaster 27-11-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392883)
People voting for Kendra have a beef with the show. People voting for her because she is simply American is just plain stupid and wanting to see the producers upset is like cutting your nose off to spite your face. I blame it on sad little ****s that spend all day locked away in their bedrooms with a keyboard for their BFF and want the system to fail. I don't buy into the normal mainstream voters wanting to see a prostitute failing week in and week out, it just does not compute in my world.

WTF? How is she a prostitute?

kirklancaster 27-11-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7392834)
My Mum doesn't like her purely because she's American :laugh:

Well son - I like Kendra whether she's American or not. :hehe:

sampvt 27-11-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7392897)
WTF? How is she a prostitute?

I thought the definition of a prozzy was someone that made money from sexual favours. Please enlighten us if you have discovered another definition, but until you do, spending 6 years offering sex for gratitude's qualifies in my book for the wonderful label of Prozzy.

Crimson Dynamo 27-11-2014 10:29 AM

she is effectively a prossie

and a short fat dumpy one too

ew

waterhog 27-11-2014 10:35 AM

she is working wounders for the voters - you have been sucked in and have fallen for the reality tv - this is her job - she is working you all.


i will do a poem on this point.

sampvt 27-11-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7392895)
Sam for someone who's always talking about having respect for others you sure do like your nasty derogatory terms for women and I don't even like Kendra

Naimh if you are going to have a dig at me, please do it privately. I don't use derogatory terms against women as a broad wide sweeping issue, I call a spade for a spade and my views on Kendra are miniscule when you take into consideration some of the things that other posters put on about other campmates.

Kick me off the site if you want to, but please don't dress me down in front of everyone on here as its not something that other mods do. I know you don't like me but on the one hand you say on here..... don't get personal.... then you do it to me.

Any woman that offers sex for money or gifts is by definition a prostitute and until the law or definitions change, I am simply giving her correct title. She admits it herself and seems to be proud of it so why should we be sensored when mentioning her chosen lifestyle.

Niamh. 27-11-2014 10:41 AM

Challenging your opinions on HMs and terms you use to describe them is not getting personal Sam.

sampvt 27-11-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7392914)
Challenging your opinions on HMs and terms you use to describe them is not getting personal Sam.

Challenging you on here isn't a good thing for me because you hold all the cards so I concede to your opinions but I think several others agree with my prozzie label and they are left alone. You are a good poster and I enjoy your posts but you wont change my mind on \Kendra as she is ruining the show for me so venting anger her way is totally justifiable on my part.

It might be worth noting that all my comments are very tongue in cheek and my battles on here are with people that hate me because I am old and don't have a mortgage. I love this site and take my punishments with very little dissent but until the Collins dictionary changes its views on the definition of a prostitute, i respectfully reserve the right to use that terminology for Kendra.

Niamh. 27-11-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392919)
Challenging you on here isn't a good thing for me because you hold all the cards so I concede to your opinions but I think several others agree with my prozzie label and they are left alone. You are a good poster and I enjoy your posts but you wont change my mind on \Kendra as she is ruining the show for me so venting anger her way is totally justifiable on my part.

It might be worth noting that all my comments are very tongue in cheek and my battles on here are with people that hate me because I am old and don't have a mortgage. I love this site and take my punishments with very little dissent but until the Collins dictionary changes its views on the definition of a prostitute, i respectfully reserve the right to use that terminology for Kendra.

I don't hate you Sam :laugh: I just absolutely despise those derogatory terms used to describe women, I'm not just making that up because I have some sort of vendetta against you, I promise. I've made similar posts about this subject numerous times on this forum

sampvt 27-11-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7392922)
I don't hate you Sam :laugh: I just absolutely despise those derogatory terms used to describe women, I'm not just making that up because I have some sort of vendetta against you, I promise. I've made similar posts about this subject numerous times on this forum

Ok I agree with that but please help me out on this one so I don't upset you again. What term should I use for someone that sleeps in a house of ill repute for 6 years, offers her body up for monetary gain, brags about it and lives her life in the spotlight openly proud of the fact that she is a troublemaker on the reality circuit and who is seeminghly hell bent on ruining the tasks in favour of airtime......The term girl next door seems a little stretched to me.

Niamh. 27-11-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392923)
Ok I agree with that but please help me out on this one so I don't upset you again. What term should I use for someone that sleeps in a house of ill repute for 6 years, offers her body up for monetary gain, brags about it and lives her life in the spotlight openly proud of the fact that she is a troublemaker on the reality circuit and who is seeminghly hell bent on ruining the tasks in favour of airtime......The term girl next door seems a little stretched to me.

So Playboy models are prostitutes?

kirklancaster 27-11-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392905)
I thought the definition of a prozzy was someone that made money from sexual favours. Please enlighten us if you have discovered another definition, but until you do, spending 6 years offering sex for gratitude's qualifies in my book for the wonderful label of Prozzy.

No need to get uppity. I don't class her as a prostitute, because I don't regard the fact that she lived in the Playboy mansion or even gave sexual favours to Heffner as any different to what a lot of other female 'celebrities' have done in order to become rich and famous.

From 'Page 3's' through 'Film Stars' to 'TV Presenters' and even certain 'High Flying Businesswomen', there are those who 'prostituted their principles' in some form or other to get where they are - and a hell of a lot of these are well loved names. Isn't this a form of 'prostitution' by your criterion?

There are also a lot of woman who are married and have children to men who are (secretly) not the partner of their dreams, but these women 'compromised' and 'settled' for less than their ideal in return for security and stability. As these women are expected to provide sexual favours for their husbands as part of married life, isn't this then another form of 'prostitution' by your criterion?

Kendra may have deliberately, and cynically, elected to secure her future by becoming a Playboy Housemate, or she may have been seduced into it, but the fact that she spent 6 years there - even if occasionally having to 'service' the abhorrent Heffner was part of her 'duties' - does not mean that she is promiscuous.

I'd be willing to wager that - in today's society - the average 18 year old girl has had more sexual partners and more dick than Kendra has.

I agree that technically, the term 'prostitute' means anyone (it's not exclusive to women) who grants sexual favours in return for money or kind, but as outlined above, there are many different types of prostitution.

As with virtually anything, this topic is subjective, but I certainly don't equate what Kendra did with drug addicts in dingy alleys selling their bodies to anyone with £10.00, 'Streetwalkers' who are not as cheap, doing the same but for £20 to £30.00, or even high class 'Escort Girls' who charge £1,000 a night or more.

In any event, she is not a Playboy Housemate any more, but is happily married with a family, so even if you do regard what she did as 'prostitution', then maybe 'ex-prostitute' may be more correct a term.

sampvt 27-11-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7392928)
No need to get uppity. I don't class her as a prostitute, because I don't regard the fact that she lived in the Playboy mansion or even gave sexual favours to Heffner as any different to what a lot of other female 'celebrities' have done in order to become rich and famous.

From 'Page 3's' through 'Film Stars' to 'TV Presenters' and even certain 'High Flying Businesswomen', there are those who 'prostituted their principles' in some form or other to get where they are - and a hell of a lot of these are well loved names. Isn't this a form of 'prostitution' by your criterion?

There are also a lot of woman who are married and have children to men who are (secretly) not the partner of their dreams, but these women 'compromised' and 'settled' for less than their ideal in return for security and stability. As these women are expected to provide sexual favours for their husbands as part of married life, isn't this then another form of 'prostitution' by your criterion?

Kendra may have deliberately, and cynically, elected to secure her future by becoming a Playboy Housemate, or she may have been seduced into it, but the fact that she spent 6 years there - even if occasionally having to 'service' the abhorrent Heffner was part of her 'duties' - does not mean that she is promiscuous.

I'd be willing to wager that - in today's society - the average 18 year old girl has had more sexual partners and more dick than Kendra has.

I agree that technically, the term 'prostitute' means anyone (it's not exclusive to women) who grants sexual favours in return for money or kind, but as outlined above, there are many different types of prostitution.

As with virtually anything, this topic is subjective, but I certainly don't equate what Kendra did with drug addicts in dingy alleys selling their bodies to anyone with £10.00, 'Streetwalkers' who are not as cheap, doing the same but for £20 to £30.00, or even high class 'Escort Girls' who charge £1,000 a night or more.

In any event, she is not a Playboy Housemate any more, but is happily married with a family, so even if you do regard what she did as 'prostitution', then maybe 'ex-prostitute' may be more correct a term.

Naaa, too long winded, I still prefer prozzie, x or current, who cares.

kirklancaster 27-11-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392934)
Naaa, too long winded, I still prefer prozzie, x or current, who cares.

Kendra, I guess. Your response is just what I expected though.

sampvt 27-11-2014 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7392937)
Kendra, I guess. Your response is just what I expected though.

Well when you try to justify the unjustifiable, what do you expect. Its like saying that the ripper shouldn't be called a murderer because he used medical implements. A prozzie is a prozzie end of. X or current is academic. Is Archimedes and x greek or is Einstein an x mathematician.

My response was evidentiary and correct, your snide comment of I expected that anyway showed you lost and you need to stop getting personal. I don't care if you like or hate my opinions, but I do draw the line at being sited for being wrong when the evidence is out there for all to see.

Liam- 27-11-2014 12:41 PM

Yikes, this thread got nasty quickly :laugh:

Niamh. 27-11-2014 12:43 PM

what they should do is whoever does the trial one day is exempt the next

kirklancaster 27-11-2014 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392949)
Well when you try to justify the unjustifiable, what do you expect. Its like saying that the ripper shouldn't be called a murderer because he used medical implements. A prozzie is a prozzie end of. X or current is academic. Is Archimedes and x greek or is Einstein an x mathematician.

My response was evidentiary and correct, your snide comment of I expected that anyway showed you lost and you need to stop getting personal. I don't care if you like or hate my opinions, but I do draw the line at being sited for being wrong when the evidence is out there for all to see.

I try - perhaps more than any other on here - to always be polite and civil, even when I've been mocked and ridiculed for some of my views, so I wasn't being personal. My comment that your response was "exactly what I expected" was not 'snide' but a reference to your terse and very dismissive response: "Naaa, too long winded, I still prefer prozzie, x or current, who cares." - which in my view personifies "snide".

As for your examples of Einstein and Archimedes - they are frankly irrelevant and ludicrous. Einstein was a practising scientist until the day he died, so he cannot ever be called an ex-scientist, whereas, Kendra no longer resides in the Playboy Mansion so is an ex- prostitute by your definition. Similarly, Archimedes being Greek by birth, remained a Greek until the day he died, so neither can he ever be called an ex-Greek.

Kendra is not a prostitute in my opinion, and never has been, but even if we accept your definition, she is certainly no more than an ex-prostitute. So I don't really lose do I?

Anyway, though I will never understand why certain people on here get so irrationally angry, and nasty and abusive about others (celebrities or Forum Members) for no clear or apparent reason, I respect your right to your opinion without agreeing with it.

waterhog 27-11-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7392976)
what they should do is whoever does the trial one day is exempt the next

would make it so much more enjoyable to watch - to see others.

Dollface 27-11-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7392905)
I thought the definition of a prozzy was someone that made money from sexual favours.

Like Helen Wood? :fan:


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