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arista 01-12-2014 01:56 PM

Tesco removes toy sign saying "for boys"
 
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...5_79246864.jpg
Yes Young Lady
its a mans world

Niamh. 01-12-2014 01:58 PM

There really is no need for them to have for boys or girls on toys is there?

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7399851)
There really is no need for them to have for boys or girls on toys is there?

I am not sure if it really helps parents, they know the pink crap stuff is for girls and all the good stuff is for boys anyway :shrug:

Niamh. 01-12-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7399852)
I am not sure if it really helps parents, they know the pink crap stuff is for girls and all the good stuff is for boys anyway :shrug:

:laugh:

arista 01-12-2014 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7399851)
There really is no need for them to have for boys or girls on toys is there?


Yes but the Store says its to Help everyone


No one Expected a Devil Look Girl
going on twitter by her Political Mum


[Karen Cole's photo of her daughter Maggie went viral on social media]

Niamh. 01-12-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7399863)
Yes but the Store says its to Help everyone


No one Expected a Devil Look Girl
going on twitter by her Political Mum


[Karen Cole's photo of her daughter Maggie went viral on social media]

How does it help anyone to say that certain toys are for girls and certain toys are for boys? :laugh:

arista 01-12-2014 02:29 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...51_634x408.jpg
a boy in Toys R Us
is confused as there is Pink toys mixed in.


After a Political USA Mum
went on Twitter attacking them

arista 01-12-2014 02:31 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...76_634x464.jpg
How it was before
a Section that is clear for girls

arista 01-12-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7399865)
How does it help anyone to say that certain toys are for girls and certain toys are for boys? :laugh:



Mums are busy shoppers
it meant she could find gifts fast


No One Expected a girl with a Angry Stare
to go viral on World Wide Twitter
attacking a big store

Niamh. 01-12-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7399875)
Mums are busy shoppers
it meant she could find gifts fast


No One Expected a girl with a Angry Stare
to go viral on World Wide Twitter
attacking a big store

How about Dads are they busy shoppers? Sexist :nono:

they can still put all the dolls and s**t in the one aisle Arista, there is no need to have things labelled for boys or for girls though

Ninastar 01-12-2014 02:35 PM

girls and boys will always be different. always.

now that's not to say that they shouldn't be allowed to play with each others toys. Thats not what im saying at all. I think its a good thing for kids to play with any type of toys. but this whole 'BOYS TOYS?? OUTRAGEOUS!!!! GIRLS PLAY WITH THEM TOO!!!!' argument is so bloody pathetic.

Boys and girls think differently. They have different brains. There will always be a slight divide in what toys children are interested in.

there are way way more damaging things for children in society, than labelling things 'boys' or 'girls'

arista 01-12-2014 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7399879)
How about Dads are they busy shoppers? Sexist :nono:

they can still put all the dolls and s**t in the one aisle Arista, there is no need to have things labelled for boys or for girls though


Yes and Dads shoppers
need the signs.


That store has a full team
that sell more under sub section signs
they are angry at this Political Mum

Niamh. 01-12-2014 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7399888)
Yes and Dads shoppers
need the signs.


That store has a full team
that sell more under sub section signs
they are angry at this Political Mum

Do you think moms or dads might accidently buy little johnny a doll if its not clearly labelled "For Girls" on it? :hehe:

JoshBB 01-12-2014 03:04 PM

Toys are toys, we really don't need to assign gender to them tbh. If a boy wants to play with a barbie doll, let him, the same if a girl wants to play with a toy soldier, let her. it's 2014 for gods sake.

Dollface 01-12-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 7399880)
girls and boys will always be different. always.

now that's not to say that they shouldn't be allowed to play with each others toys. Thats not what im saying at all. I think its a good thing for kids to play with any type of toys. but this whole 'BOYS TOYS?? OUTRAGEOUS!!!! GIRLS PLAY WITH THEM TOO!!!!' argument is so bloody pathetic.

Boys and girls think differently. They have different brains. There will always be a slight divide in what toys children are interested in.

there are way way more damaging things for children in society, than labelling things 'boys' or 'girls'

completely agree with you! (i swear i always agree with you :laugh:)

Cal. 01-12-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 7399880)
girls and boys will always be different. always.

now that's not to say that they shouldn't be allowed to play with each others toys. Thats not what im saying at all. I think its a good thing for kids to play with any type of toys. but this whole 'BOYS TOYS?? OUTRAGEOUS!!!! GIRLS PLAY WITH THEM TOO!!!!' argument is so bloody pathetic.

Boys and girls think differently. They have different brains. There will always be a slight divide in what toys children are interested in.

there are way way more damaging things for children in society, than labelling things 'boys' or 'girls'

.

Shaun 01-12-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 7399880)
girls and boys will always be different. always.

now that's not to say that they shouldn't be allowed to play with each others toys. Thats not what im saying at all. I think its a good thing for kids to play with any type of toys. but this whole 'BOYS TOYS?? OUTRAGEOUS!!!! GIRLS PLAY WITH THEM TOO!!!!' argument is so bloody pathetic.

Boys and girls think differently. They have different brains. There will always be a slight divide in what toys children are interested in.

there are way way more damaging things for children in society, than labelling things 'boys' or 'girls'

it's not really an argument so much as wishing unnecessary and pretty useless labels to go away? I mean basically what it all boils down to is shaming kids of either gender into avoiding toys of the other's for fear of being seen as a gay boy or a tomboy

Niamh. 01-12-2014 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7399948)
it's not really an argument so much as wishing unnecessary labels to go away? I mean basically what it all boils down to is shaming kids of either gender into avoiding toys of the other's for fear of being seen as a gay boy or a tomboy

:clap2:

Exactly, there is no need to put For Boys on a toy at all, yeah maybe more boys will end up playing with that toy but what is the need to put a note on it saying that its a Boys Toy and vice versa, it doesn't achieve anything, it's not like parents would be totally confused about which toys to buy their kids if those labels weren't there :laugh:

Ninastar 01-12-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7399948)
it's not really an argument so much as wishing unnecessary and pretty useless labels to go away? I mean basically what it all boils down to is shaming kids of either gender into avoiding toys of the other's for fear of being seen as a gay boy or a tomboy

Thing is though, this rarely ever happens now...

Most children don't give a crap.

There will always be different insults used, no matter what rules are made. There will always be a different preference for a toy with each gender, and nothing can ever be done.

Children pick on things for being 'different' not because it's 'gay boy' or 'tom boy', w.e

If you get rid of 'girls toys' or 'boys toys', they will always find a different way to insult each other.

Ninastar 01-12-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 7399940)
completely agree with you! (i swear i always agree with you :laugh:)

why thank you

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._Blow_Kiss.gif

arista 01-12-2014 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7399948)
it's not really an argument so much as wishing unnecessary and pretty useless labels to go away? I mean basically what it all boils down to is shaming kids of either gender into avoiding toys of the other's for fear of being seen as a gay boy or a tomboy


No do not make it bigger than it is

Shaun

Shaun 01-12-2014 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 7399964)
Thing is though, this rarely ever happens now...

Most children don't give a crap.

There will always be different insults used, no matter what rules are made. There will always be a different preference for a toy with each gender, and nothing can ever be done.

Children pick on things for being 'different' not because it's 'gay boy' or 'tom boy', w.e

If you get rid of 'girls toys' or 'boys toys', they will always find a different way to insult each other.

So what? Give up trying because humanity is inherently awful? :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 04:47 PM

Thing is some tesco goon in a suit will choose which toys go into boys and which to girls!

But Amazon do this too

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 04:47 PM

Thing is some tesco goon in a suit will choose which toys go into boys and which to girls!

But Amazon do this too

kirklancaster 01-12-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 7399880)
girls and boys will always be different. always.

now that's not to say that they shouldn't be allowed to play with each others toys. Thats not what im saying at all. I think its a good thing for kids to play with any type of toys. but this whole 'BOYS TOYS?? OUTRAGEOUS!!!! GIRLS PLAY WITH THEM TOO!!!!' argument is so bloody pathetic.

Boys and girls think differently. They have different brains. There will always be a slight divide in what toys children are interested in.

there are way way more damaging things for children in society, than labelling things 'boys' or 'girls'

:clap1:

It's madness. The lunatics have taken over the asylum - What P.C. bollocks next? No 'Male' and 'Female' signs on public toilets?

'Y Fronts and Jockeys actually mixed in with the knickers in shops underwear sections?

Madness.

Ninastar 01-12-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7400021)
So what? Give up trying because humanity is inherently awful? :laugh:

Give up trying what? (you've lost me lol... not that it's hard to do that)

All I'm saying is that I think this whole 'avoid usuing genders with toys because insults' thing is stupid.

Children will be called names no matter what.

I think it's time that we stop trying to change society, and try to change ourselves.

Teach your children that names are just names. They mean nothing. Teach them from a young age that people are always going to be horrible.

This is all just my opinion of course...

But what I've come to realise over the past 5 years or so, ever since being bullied, since dealing with a suicidal member of the family at home and so on, is that only you can control how you feel. Not anyone else. Don't let someone else's idea of how they see something, affect you.

The sooner people learn to think like this, the happier they will be.

kirklancaster 01-12-2014 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7400054)
Thing is some tesco goon in a suit will choose which toys go into boys and which to girls!

But Amazon do this too

Actually - you're right LT, they probably will, which makes a nonsense of it all anyway. :shrug:

Niamh. 01-12-2014 07:25 PM

Tesco removes toy sign saying "for boys"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7400112)
:clap1:



It's madness. The lunatics have taken over the asylum - What P.C. bollocks next? No 'Male' and 'Female' signs on public toilets?



'Y Fronts and Jockeys actually mixed in with the knickers in shops underwear sections?



Madness.


That's completely different. The point is, there is no good reason for toys to have labels printed on them saying they're for one gender or the other, if you could give me one then I'd be very interested in hearing it? Is it a huge deal? No, not really. Are there much bigger issues in the world? Absolutely. I'm just saying its pretty unnecessary in this day and age to have a note printed on a toy to say its just for a boy or a girl :shrug:

Marc 01-12-2014 07:44 PM

That little girl is a ****

swinearefine 01-12-2014 08:04 PM

holy ****ing **** @ anyone supporting this blatant sexism and ignorance of gender. The world is not divided into boys and girls - there is a multitude of ways one expresses gender, be that cisgender or transgender or agender or bigender or whatever. So this by nature excludes anyone who is non-cisgender (conforming to the gender one is assigned) and also arbitrarily decides what is fit for the boys and girls within this gender binary. Genderqueer youth and any cisgender children who just want to ****ing play with something not deemed typical for their gender are hurt by labeling toys like this, that's the point.

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 08:07 PM

Thing is I want to go to Amazon and ask what is the best selling girls toy for an 8 year old, or boys toy for a 10 year old but they do it only by age

this is from page one of Toys & Games : 5 to 8 years

Creativity for Kids Fashion Headbands Kit
Mould & Paint Glitter Fairy Plaster Kit
Monster High Freaky Fusion Lagoonafire Doll
LEGO Friends 41058: Heartlake Shopping Mall
Play-Doh DohVinci Style and Store Vanity Complete Design Kit
Girl Tech Password Journal 8
Galt First Knitting

LEGO City 60051: High-Speed Passenger Train
Teksta T-Rex

But if you are buying the first six for a boy then you are seriously fked up

swinearefine 01-12-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7400362)
Thing is I want to go to Amazon and ask what is the best selling girls toy for an 8 year old, or boys toy for a 10 year old but they do it only by age

this is from page one of Toys & Games : 5 to 8 years

Creativity for Kids Fashion Headbands Kit
Mould & Paint Glitter Fairy Plaster Kit
Monster High Freaky Fusion Lagoonafire Doll
LEGO Friends 41058: Heartlake Shopping Mall
Play-Doh DohVinci Style and Store Vanity Complete Design Kit
Girl Tech Password Journal 8
Galt First Knitting

LEGO City 60051: High-Speed Passenger Train
Teksta T-Rex

But if you are buying the first six for a boy then you are seriously fked up

assuming a boy wouldn't want them, which you don't know. I would have adored the password journal and lego shopping mall <3

Marsh. 01-12-2014 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swinearefine (Post 7400346)
holy ****ing **** @ anyone supporting this blatant sexism and ignorance of gender. The world is not divided into boys and girls - there is a multitude of ways one expresses gender, be that cisgender or transgender or agender or bigender or whatever. So this by nature excludes anyone who is non-cisgender (conforming to the gender one is assigned) and also arbitrarily decides what is fit for the boys and girls within this gender binary. Genderqueer youth and any cisgender children who just want to ****ing play with something not deemed typical for their gender are hurt by labeling toys like this, that's the point.

:umm2:

Do these other genders get offended by toilets labelled male and female?

We'll have public toilet blocks taking up all the space in city centres making room for every label someone takes a shine to.

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swinearefine (Post 7400393)
assuming a boy wouldn't want them, which you don't know. I would have adored the password journal and lego shopping mall <3

:nono:

we need men to defend the country not go shopping for crop tops and superdry garbage

Marsh. 01-12-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7400435)
:nono:

we need men to defend the country not go shopping for crop tops and superdry garbage

Beat the puff out of them! :fist:

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7400442)
Beat the puff out of them! :fist:

not beat

drill it out of them

National Service

identify
humiliate
jail


These are sensible policies that Ukip could adopt

:flutter:

Dollface 01-12-2014 08:28 PM

I think every kid should play with whatever toys they want to play with (my favourite toy as a child was clearly a boys toy and I loved it), but people saying that certain toys shouldn't have a gender associated with them are just kidding themselves

http://www.barbiecollector.com/files...4_c_14_CU1.jpg
regardless of whether or not boys play with Barbie ^ she is still a girls toy imo & would be in the girls section of a toy shop

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2014 08:30 PM

if your boy child has a barbie then its time to worry

Marsh. 01-12-2014 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7400488)
if your boy child has a barbie then its time to worry

He might be using it to practise his "moves". :think:

MTVN 01-12-2014 08:32 PM

Hmm I don't really see a problem with this tbh. Things will always be vaguely categorised and marketed more to one gender than another, for convenience if nothing else. Personally I think something like this: http://www.johnlewis.com/ideas-for-b...toys/c60000990 is just quite a useful way of narrowing a massive range of items down to a few things that your typical young boy might like. Obviously its not a black and white thing where all boys are only going to like one set of toys and all girls are only going to like a different set, but it is fairly easy to make very general categorisations.

In the same way you'll get a lot of places offering 'gifts for Dads' with typical things like beer glasses, golf memorabilia, football items etc. Obviously not all Dads will want these items and not all the people who want the items will be Dads. My Mum is actually way more into sport than my Dad so among sport merchandise typically targeted at Dads I'd be more likely to find a gift for my Mum. But again they are very general categorisations, its basic marketing practices not an attempt to enforce a binary segregation of genders.


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