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Headie 19-01-2015 09:41 PM

Do the housemates know Alicia is dyslexic?
 
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LOVE Island contestant Alicia Douvall has revealed she does not know the alphabet because she is dyslexic.

The blonde was branded Britain's dimmest celebrity after failing to recite her A to Z, muddling the letters G and J during one of the tasks on the ITV show.

Covering up the condition, she told other contestants: "I've never needed my alphabet - I can do the splits."

Now the 27-year-old single mum has put down her failure to dyslexia, which she says went undiagnosed by her posh Surrey school and was dismissed by her father as a "bull disease".

She said: "The school didn't understand dyslexia at all - they branded me thick. So I was brought up to believe I was stupid."

Alicia, who has had six breast enlargements, three nose jobs, liposuction and a tummy tuck, was expelled from school at 15.

She fell pregnant and moved into a hostel where she began bringing up her baby daughter Georgia.

She added: "It was the worst possible experience. It was that which made me determined to get away and make something of my life, for Georgie."
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

Feel really sorry for her being called thick and stupid by all the other housemates :(

Creggle 19-01-2015 09:42 PM

Does dyslexia affect comprehension and general intelligence, or just your reading/writing skills? If somebody is thick who is dyslexic, it isn't because they are dyslexic.

daniel-lewis-1985 19-01-2015 09:44 PM

My little brothers dyslexic and I know how frustrated and upset he gets with himself for not being to be as quick as everyone else.

Its disgusting that they call her thick and dumb I literally want to reach into the tv and smear poo on Cami's face.

Creggle 19-01-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7508955)
My little brothers dyslexic and I know how frustrated and upset he gets with himself for not being to be as quick as everyone else.

That isn't anything to do with dyslexia though, it is impossible to tell somebody is dyslexic unless they tell you or you see them read/write.

Josy 19-01-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7508971)
That isn't anything to do with dyslexia though, it is impossible to tell somebody is dyslexic unless they tell you or you see them read/write.

Dyslexia is definitely NOT all about reading/writing it can affect memory, reaction, concentration and a lot more.

So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Jack The Cat 19-01-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7508947)
Does dyslexia affect comprehension and general intelligence, or just your reading/writing skills? If somebody is thick who is dyslexic, it isn't because they are dyslexic.

I know someone who is dyslexic, it does effect his writing and reading skills but he is very sharp verbally and has good common sense. Unless you asked him to read and write you would have no idea.

I don't know anyone else with this condition so couldn't tell you if he is an exception but I have never thought dyslexia reduces general intelligence like downs would for example.

Jack The Cat 19-01-2015 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7508982)
Dyslexia is definitely NOT all about reading/writing it can affect memory, reaction, concentration and a lot more.

So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Fair enough, I guess my friend must be an exception to the rule then.

InOne 19-01-2015 09:51 PM

Did she diagnose herself then? There's a difference between dyslexia and willingness to learn.

Pincho Paxton 19-01-2015 09:52 PM

Science says that there are many myths about dyslexia. Being stupid is one of them. I don't tend to copy what scientists say. I am not sure if they are myths or not. My brother has dyslexia, and he says some pretty strange things.

Marsh. 19-01-2015 09:53 PM

27 year old?

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abhorson 19-01-2015 09:55 PM

Frig. The girl does not have a lot going for her!

Pincho Paxton 19-01-2015 09:57 PM

I wasn't really referring to Alicia though. Alicia has come across well in the house I think. She does figure out what is going on quite well in the Diary Room.

abhorson 19-01-2015 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7508982)
Dyslexia is definitely NOT all about reading/writing it can affect memory, reaction, concentration and a lot more.

So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

OTT in my opinion. Do they all (especially Americans) know of this womans past.

She is a kiss and teller of the ultimate kind. Dysslexia does not affect this.

daniel-lewis-1985 19-01-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7508971)
That isn't anything to do with dyslexia though, it is impossible to tell somebody is dyslexic unless they tell you or you see them read/write.

Erm no sorry that's not true. It very much affects behaviour and self confidence amongst other things.

Not everything can be simplified with a label.

Josy 19-01-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509025)
OTT in my opinion. Do they all (especially Americans) know of this womans past.

She is a kiss and teller of the ultimate kind. Dysslexia does not affect this.

What is OTT? I was listing some of the symptoms of adult dyslexia to the member that thought the illness solely involved reading and writing :think: you can google to check if you don't believe it.

I am in no way saying Alicia struggles with any of these things I would have no way of knowing that? plus if you know of anyone that suffers from the illness you will also know that symptoms vary greatly from person to person.

I still think that calling her thick, slow etc is disgusting..

armand.kay 19-01-2015 10:04 PM

I don't think they know tbh.

daniel-lewis-1985 19-01-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 7509047)
I don't think they know tbh.

Seeing as they are all late twenties and well over 30's I would have thought they would think to themselves **Maybe she has learning difficulties**?

Or am I being crazy?

power2thepeople 19-01-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7508982)
Dyslexia is definitely NOT all about reading/writing it can affect memory, reaction, concentration and a lot more.

So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Most definitely. I've worked with Dyslexic students and I had to learn the hard way that no one dyslexic individual is necessarily the same as another and it can affect a multitude of things. Like yourself, I think it's vile how some of them can sneeringly brand her 'slow'. Particularly Michelle who claims to protect everyone. I hope she comes out of the house and takes a huge dose of the 'learning' she pompously preaches that others don't take from her.

smudgie 19-01-2015 10:08 PM

I don't thnk dyslexia makes you thick.

She does come across as a bit dim, but I think it has more to do with her personality and choices in life.


My daughter is dyslexic, she is head of Dept in a secondary school, she just had to work a lot harder to get there really.

Withano 19-01-2015 10:10 PM

Would you not need to have above average intelligence to be diagnosed with dyslexia?

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7509043)
What is OTT? I was listing some of the symptoms of adult dyslexia to the member that thought the illness solely involved reading and writing :think: you can google to check if you don't believe it.

I am in no way saying Alicia struggles with any of these things I would have no way of knowing that? plus if you know of anyone that suffers from the illness you will also know that symptoms vary greatly from person to person.

I still think that calling her thick, slow etc is disgusting..


So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Because they don't know. OTT.

bots 19-01-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7508982)
Dyslexia is definitely NOT all about reading/writing it can affect memory, reaction, concentration and a lot more.

So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Its not acceptable in any circumstances to be honest, whether she has dyslexia or not. She earned her place in the house and should not be ridiculed over something she can do nothing about

Josy 19-01-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509105)
So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Because they don't know. OTT.

Continuously saying that to anyone's face is disgusting, without even bringing dyslexia into it...so if they do know then that's even worse.

Marsh. 19-01-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509105)
So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

Because they don't know. OTT.

So because they don't know of her learning difficulties it makes their ridicule of her ok? :crazy:

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7509111)
Continuously saying that to anyone's face is disgusting, without even bringing dyslexia into it...so if they do know then that's even worse.

But they don't.

Josy 19-01-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509122)
But they don't.

It's still disgusting though

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7509112)
So because they don't know of her learning difficulties it makes their ridicule of her ok? :crazy:

Welcome to BB:laugh:

Marsh. 19-01-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509131)
Welcome to BB:laugh:

Sorry? Would you like to say something that actually relates to the post you quoted? :)

Creggle 19-01-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7508983)
I know someone who is dyslexic, it does effect his writing and reading skills but he is very sharp verbally and has good common sense. Unless you asked him to read and write you would have no idea.

^^^

I can see why it would effect confidence but dyslexia does not effect somebodies general intelligence, Alicia is dim because she is dim, dyslexia is not the reason. It's more insulting to say dyslexic people have an excuse to be below average intelligence, I know alot of people with it who are sharper than me.

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7509127)
It's still disgusting though

I agree, if they knew.

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7509134)
Sorry? Would you like to say something that actually relates to the post you quoted? :)

Read back about Dyslexia posts. You will understand.

Marsh. 19-01-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509143)
Read back about Dyslexia posts. You will understand.

I already do. You think their ridiculing of her intelligence is ok because they don't know about her dyslexia. Despite the fact that it doesn't matter.

Kizzy 19-01-2015 10:26 PM

Poor Alicia, fancy her family turning their backs on her she seems so sweet :(

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:26 PM

As i said, some with Dyslexia are now the brightest people in the UK.

Josy 19-01-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7509135)
^^^

I can see why it would effect confidence but dyslexia does not effect somebodies general intelligence, Alicia is dim because she is dim, dyslexia is not the reason. It's more insulting to say dyslexic people have an excuse to be below average intelligence, I know alot of people with it who are sharper than me.

Then you should also know that symptoms are barely the exact same for each person that suffers with it.

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509138)
I agree, if they knew.

It's disgusting regardless IMO.

abhorson 19-01-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7509144)
I already do. You think their ridiculing of her intelligence is ok because they don't know about her dyslexia. Despite the fact that it doesn't matter.

Spin as much as you wish.:laugh: Mr Campbell.

power2thepeople 19-01-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7509135)
^^^

I can see why it would effect confidence but dyslexia does not effect somebodies general intelligence, Alicia is dim because she is dim, dyslexia is not the reason. It's more insulting to say dyslexic people have an excuse to be below average intelligence, I know alot of people with it who are sharper than me.

Absolutely. But that presumes she had support to access education if and when her dyslexia created obstacles? It's far more supported now as an educational need as it would have been when she was at school?

MTVN 19-01-2015 10:31 PM

Mmm honestly I think this is being made too much of, near on every series there is someone who gets the mick taken out of them a bit for being an 'airhead' or a 'bimbo', people never seem to have so many qualms about noting the stupidity of TOWIE contestants. Joey Essex has dyslexia as well but most people still thought it was ridiculous that he couldn't tell the time and that he thought Richard and Judy created the world. Remember as well that Alicia also accused Katie of being thick.

Marsh. 19-01-2015 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7509157)
Spin as much as you wish.:laugh: Mr Campbell.

Again, would you like to stick to the topic?

power2thepeople 19-01-2015 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7509186)
Mmm honestly I think this is being made too much of, near on every series there is someone who gets the mick taken out of them a bit for being an 'airhead' or a 'bimbo', people never seem to have so many qualms about noting the stupidity of TOWIE contestants. Joey Essex has dyslexia as well but most people still thought it was ridiculous that he couldn't tell the time and that he thought Richard and Judy created the world. Remember as well that Alicia also accused Katie of being thick.

I can see the point but Joey Essex is quite comfortable with this and many of these moments are on shows such as Celebrity Juice. He is loved for it and it's obviously his choice to draw attention to some of the gaps in his knowledge or he wouldn't play the quiz games. There is no sneering atmosphere that goes with it. It's almost embraced as a lovely quality to him and not used to berate him with? Actually, It would have been interesting to see someone such as Joey go in to see the reaction from HM's to his 'knowledge'? But point taken.


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