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Benjamin 20-01-2015 09:57 PM

Dyslexia: An explanation
 
I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves. ;)

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Dyslexia is a common learning difficulty that mainly affects the way people read and spell words.

Signs and symptoms

Dyslexia is a spectrum disorder, with symptoms ranging from mild to severe.

People with dyslexia have particular difficulty with:

phonological awareness
verbal memory
rapid serial naming
verbal processing speed

These terms are explained in more detail below.

Phonological awareness
Phonological awareness is thought to be a key skill in early reading and spelling development. It is the ability to identify how words are made up of smaller units of sound, known as phonemes. Changes in the sounds that make up words can lead to changes in their meaning.
For example, a child with a good level of phonological awareness would understand that if you change the letter "p" in the word "pat" to "s", the word becomes "sat".

Verbal memory
Verbal memory is the ability to remember a sequence of verbal information for a short period of time.
For example, the ability to remember a short list such as "red, blue, green", or a set of simple instructions, such as "Put on your gloves and your hat, find the lead for the dog and then go to the park."

Rapid serial naming
This is the ability to name a series of colours, objects or numbers as fast as possible.

Verbal processing speed
Verbal processing speed is the time it takes to process and recognise familiar verbal information, such as letters and digits.
For example, someone with a good verbal processing speed has the ability to quickly write down unfamiliar words when they are spelled out, or write down telephone numbers they are told.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Dyslexi...roduction.aspx

smudgie 20-01-2015 10:02 PM

Such a shame she wasn't given more attention when she was younger.

I wonder if she has ever been diagnosed or if she has self diagnosed.
Took years for my daughter to get her diagnosis, schools were not really interested or capable at the time.

Josy 20-01-2015 10:04 PM

I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7512928)
I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

Josy 20-01-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7512935)
Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

Couldn't agree more.

Creggle 20-01-2015 10:07 PM

No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

Jack The Cat 20-01-2015 10:07 PM

Good OP. Cheers

Josy 20-01-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7512944)
No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

Dyslexia isnt just about grammar spelling and reading though....

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7512944)
No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

I'm talking about people mocking her for not knowing the alphabet and things like that, that is down to her dyslexia.

Cherie 20-01-2015 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7512935)
Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

:clap1:

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7512944)
No it explains nothing, we know what dyslexia is... Doesn't at all explain why anybody would generally be stupid because they have trouble with grammar, spelling and reading. It's like you 'omg but she's dyslexic' people are trying to brand dyslexic people as thick just to make Katie H etc. look bad for calling a dyslexic person thick.

Also, not everyone does know what dyslexia is, especially judging by some of the posts I have seen of late.

Kazanne 20-01-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7512868)
I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves. ;)

Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

Headie 20-01-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7512928)
I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

#BanThem

MB. 20-01-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7513006)
Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

Amy Jade 20-01-2015 10:18 PM

I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

Kazanne 20-01-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7512928)
I tired to explain a lot of this last night Ben sadly people still feel the need to make nasty spiteful comments.

I for one would sympathise for anyone with it but I really don't think she has it,have you a link to her story?

Mystic Mock 20-01-2015 10:21 PM

Poor Alicia.

I'm sure that you can help teach her Benjamin.:hugesmile:

Creggle 20-01-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7512956)
I'm talking about people mocking her for not knowing the alphabet and things like that, that is down to her dyslexia.

Who's done this? :/

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7512951)
Dyslexia isnt just about grammar spelling and reading though....

No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7513022)
I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.


You do know there are different types of dyslexia, some more severe than others so I fail to understand how you do not get annoyed at some of the things people say, even if you do hate her. I have a friend who really struggles with words and reading despite how hard they have tried.

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7513036)
Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

Not you, but I have seen a few posts on here the last couple of days that have been.

MB. 20-01-2015 10:23 PM

Completely off-topic but Mystic Mock? D:

Kazanne 20-01-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 7513019)
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

Don't get your knickers in a twist,just because you like her,I don't like her , but ,all I said was I couldn't find the story on it, and she has proven to lie so I am bound to be dubious,if she has it fair enough,but as Amy Jade said it's no reason to be dim.

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7513026)
I for one would sympathise for anyone with it but I really don't think she has it,have you a link to her story?

It's been known for a while, since around 2006 I believe when she first spoke about it. I will try find something on it.

Creggle 20-01-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7513022)
I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

:worship::worship::worship:

Josy 20-01-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7513036)
Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

She has been called 'slow', dyslexia can cause reaction to be slower in some people...

She has been called 'thick' because of the way she speaks and according to Callum for not realising straight away whats going on when things are happening in the house, another classic sign of adult dyslexia.

Amy, my nephew has it, when he was younger he had the problems with the writing/reading side of things but funnily enough that went as he got older, he is a very intelligent person but sometimes his reactions are slower than normal, not always but sometimes.

You will very rarely find 2 people that suffer from dyslexia that will have the exact same symptoms.

Mystic Mock 20-01-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7513036)
Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

Who's said that people with Dyslexia are thick? It's just the reason why Alicia takes longer to process things is because of her Dyslexia, the reason why I can verify this is because I have a Cousin who's Dyslexic and he takes a while to process things, and any letters or numbers are all back to front and jumbled up, but his very intelligent and definitely runs rings around me and most of the family except for probably my other Cousin.:joker:

Kazanne 20-01-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7513068)
It's been known for a while, since around 2006 I believe when she first spoke about it. I will try find something on it.

She should have told them in the house when they were questioning her,then maybe they would have understood the situation better,some one gave me a link Ben ,thanks

Amy Jade 20-01-2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7513045)
You do know there are different types of dyslexia, some more severe than others so I fail to understand how you do not get annoyed at some of the things people say, even i you do hate her. I have a friend who really struggles with words and reading despite how hard they have tried.

Yeah I am aware, they sent me for tests to determine how bad my dyslexia was. I got called a ****** because I had to be treated differently but because I wanted to better myself I worked hard and I still struggle but I never gave up. To this day while on this forum I have to change the back light on my phone lower or the text is less harsh. I don't mind Alicia really but she fully admitted she learned the alphabet through her child...why did it take her so long? she could have put effort in years ago.

Mystic Mock 20-01-2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 7513051)
Completely off-topic but Mystic Mock? D:

Yes I can see into the future of how this Friday eviction will go.

1st Place - Calum Best
2nd Place - Alicia Douvall
3rd Place - Perez Hilton
4th Place - Nadia S

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7513099)
She should have told them in the house when they were questioning her,then maybe they would have understood the situation better,some one gave me a link Ben ,thanks

The thing is she probably already feels intimidated by them, why would she share something she may be uncomfortable with to the popel digging at her? Besides a few of them do know, since they know her from outside the show, they just seem hell bent on picking at her because she is not like them.

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7513127)
Yeah I am aware, they sent me for tests to determine how bad my dyslexia was. I got called a ****** because I had to be treated differently but because I wanted to better myself I worked hard and I still struggle but I never gave up. To this day while on this forum I have to change the back light on my phone lower or the text is less harsh. I don't mind Alicia really but she fully admitted she learned the alphabet through her child...why did it take her so long? she could have put effort in years ago.

Maybe because she was not diagnosed when she was younger and probably tried to cover it up as she has admitted she was embarrassed by it? I cannot answer that for her, that is just my opinion.

Miranda123 20-01-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7512868)
I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves. ;)

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

Pink Pegasus 20-01-2015 10:37 PM

Alicia just seems to need a bit of time to gather her thoughts sometimes before she responds, but I think she responds well when she does think about what she wants to say.

Even if the housemates do think she's thick or slow or whatever, I don't see the need for them to go on and on about it. I know people will probably say, oh well they are locked in the house and bored so of course they are going to talk about each other, but I don't see why they have to keep going on mocking something that clearly upsets her. She has said tried to speak up for herself and yet they continue on about it taking the piss. I don't think she has done anything so nasty to them to warrant this behaviour from them, it just seems so unnecessary and a bit cruel.

Thanks for the link about dyslexia btw, I will have a read over it.

Benjamin 20-01-2015 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda123 (Post 7513146)
that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

She does have dyslexia though :laugh:

Josy 20-01-2015 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda123 (Post 7513146)
that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

She has both.

Or should say had both because she is recovering from the body dysmorphia.

Mystic Mock 20-01-2015 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7513143)
Maybe because she was not diagnosed when she was younger and probably tried to cover it up as she has admitted she was embarrassed by it? I cannot answer that for her, that is just my opinion.

Alicia seems to be like me in the sense of not liking the pressure of the Academic subjects, you're demanded to do well on all of them yet you end up not being brilliant at any of them, my Teachers kept telling me that I was under achieving and I'm not even Dyslexic, so god knows what pressure that people with Dyslexia get bestowal on them, well done to Amy Jade for not letting the pressure get to you, but a lot of people (Dyslexic or not) cannot handle the pressure.

MTVN 20-01-2015 11:35 PM

I won't get into dyslexia because I admit I'm not qualified to talk or speculate about it but I'm sorry, comments like "I'd want to die if I didn't have boobs" do just display a genuine ignorance and narcissism that is very worrying. It's like someone said on another thread her emotional immaturity is pretty staggering and a view like that can be quite damaging. I'd also be pretty concerned about her daughter's education that she seems quite set on home schooling her herself which really does not seem like adequate education. I know her daughter is only 3 right now but she seemed to be implying it was something she was going to be continuing with for a while, and she says she can't afford to send her to school when education is free to every child - even 3 year olds are eligible for free early education. The things she comes out with are just baffling in so many ways which extends beyond a learning difficulty

Mystic Mock 20-01-2015 11:43 PM

Tbf how many women would really want to go through life without boobs? I think you're being harsh there MTVN.

And I feel like I've learned more since I've left School than when I was actually in School, mainly due to the Internet though.

You never really leave School though I suppose as you always learn new things/have to learn new things.

MTVN 20-01-2015 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7513474)
Tbf how many women would really want to go through life without boobs? I think you're being harsh there MTVN.

And I feel like I've learned more since I've left School than when I was actually in School, mainly due to the Internet though.

You never really leave School though I suppose as you always learn new things/have to learn new things.

You'd just think that someone with the body issues that she has had would be a bit more sympathetic about it all, rather than making out anyone who has doesn't have massive breasts is leading a life not worth living. Some people are naturally quite flat chested, some women are forced to have mastectomys, its crazy for her to claim that you need boobs to be fulfilled in life. It's no doubt the same thinking of hers which meant she encouraged her daughter to have a boob job as well when she didn't want one - that ain't right Mock.

Mystic Mock 20-01-2015 11:55 PM

I'm not saying that her attitude is right, I'm just saying that in most normal female interactions with each other and one of them got asked would you want to go through life without your boobs? What do you think their answer would be? It wouldn't be deliberately mean to the women that are flat chested or had a Mastectomy, it's just that it wouldn't be their ideal thing to have happen to them and it would be hard to adjust to I would imagine.


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