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Jack The Cat 23-01-2015 12:27 AM

Do You Consider The Phrase "Take It Like A Man" To Be A Homophobic Insult.
 
By which I mean, is the phrase "Take It Like A Man" in your opinion a homophobic insult. Not in relation to anyone in particular but in the real world general way.

I do think it can be seen as sexist but I am specifically talking about a homophobic insult.

Mystic Mock 23-01-2015 12:31 AM

No, but it is sexist.

MB. 23-01-2015 12:31 AM

Course not. I don't like the phrase itself, but there's nothing homophobic to it. That's Perez for you.

rionablue 23-01-2015 12:36 AM

No of course not

daniel-lewis-1985 23-01-2015 12:55 AM

No but it can be used in a way to intimidate a man or to make them feel insignificant.

Kind of bullying tactics.

BTW by man I mean any man wether they are straight or gay it doesn't matter.

abhorson 23-01-2015 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7520451)
By which I mean, is the phrase "Take It Like A Man" in your opinion a homophobic insult. Not in relation to anyone in particular but in the real world general way.

I do think it can be seen as sexist but I am specifically talking about a homophobic insult.


How on earth is it sexist even. Men are stronger - FACT. (physically wise) It is a man quote to a (pussy) of another man.

Ha, just read your specific. You got me there!

Jack The Cat 23-01-2015 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7520486)
How on earth is it sexist even. Men are stronger - FACT. (physically wise) It is a man quote to a (pussy) of another man.

I see your point but the definition does use the phrase "stereotypical masculine traits". So imo that should be acknowledged even if you disagree with the meaning.:shrug:

Jose Mourinho 23-01-2015 01:12 AM

"Take it like a man" does not truly mean it in the literal sense in my opinion anyway.. I think it means to just take it with some courage. (Not that Hopkins was in the right to even tell that to Perez) I think it is a commonly used phrase. Certainly not a homophobic one not in my opinion anyway.

Amy Jade 23-01-2015 01:21 AM

No of course not lol

abhorson 23-01-2015 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7520496)
"Take it like a man" does not truly mean it in the literal sense in my opinion anyway.. I think it means to just take it with some courage. (Not that Hopkins was in the right to even tell that to Perez) I think it is a commonly used phrase. Certainly not a homophobic one not in my opinion anyway.

:clap1::clap1: You are groot. Forget the KH bit:laugh:


Not that i am a pussy, (don't go there) but i have had it said to me **** loads or another is take one for the team and yet another is are you a man or a mouse.

Who the **** cares:laugh:

abhorson 23-01-2015 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7520492)
I see your point but the definition does use the phrase "stereotypical masculine traits". So imo that should be acknowledged even if you disagree with the meaning.:shrug:

From one man to another. Of course it does. Thus not sexist.

Kizzy 23-01-2015 01:55 AM

No not at all.

Rob! 23-01-2015 01:59 AM

No and anybody who thinks it is is a complete dingbat. Not even Perez thinks it's actually a homophobic statement except it's one of his nasty little weapons to use it against people.l which is actually the soul reason why I hate him. He did it to Ken and he's tried to do it to Katie.

jennyjuniper 23-01-2015 05:19 AM

If I am making coffee for guests (male or female) I say do you take it like a man?, meaning black. And to date no-one has been remotely offended by this.
Anyway where is the insult? Homosexuals are men, even at a stretch, Perez.

Mrbigbrother 23-01-2015 06:10 AM

Parez is basically saying he isn't a man, and infact he is a woman!

Pete. 23-01-2015 06:17 AM

No don't be silly

AnnieK 23-01-2015 06:21 AM

No, it's not homophobic, possibly sexist like "man up" and intimating men should react / act in a certain stereotypical way...but even that's pushing it a bit far. It's just a phrase

VanessaFeltz. 23-01-2015 06:23 AM

I said yes but i think it is not an insult but it could be offensive not only for only gays for other men. It is not a good phrase to use whatsoever

Mick 23-01-2015 06:27 AM

No way in the context she intended which he knew but attempted to twist. What she has got wrong is to underestimate his ability to identify peoples weakness and use them.

He so wanted her to throw that water at him it almost happened and I think eventually she will do something similar and he will have beat her.

He was the gainer from that task and managed every topic to his advantage.

the truth 23-01-2015 07:30 AM

its sexist though not homophobic though Hopkins intended it that way

Macie Lightfoot 23-01-2015 07:32 AM

No, but there's a lot of overlap between gender norms and sexuality, so with that and the fact that it came from Katie Hopkins I'm entirely open to the idea that it is homophobic.

Mystic Mock 23-01-2015 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7520675)
its sexist though not homophobic though Hopkins intended it that way

I agree that she intended it as sexist, and at the end of the day she should've got a warning for that and the weight comment towards Perez, but for some reason those prejudices are seen as fine by Big Brother because it's not racism or homophobia.

Jose Mourinho 23-01-2015 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7520514)
:clap1::clap1: You are groot. Forget the KH bit:laugh:


Not that i am a pussy, (don't go there) but i have had it said to me **** loads or another is take one for the team and yet another is are you a man or a mouse.

Who the **** cares:laugh:

WE ARE GROOT

the truth 23-01-2015 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7520683)
I agree that she intended it as sexist, and at the end of the day she should've got a warning for that and the weight comment towards Perez, but for some reason those prejudices are seen as fine by Big Brother because it's not racism or homophobia.

true

Beso 23-01-2015 07:41 AM

I don't care, as long as she continues to look like a tool then tis all good.

Crimson Dynamo 23-01-2015 07:42 AM

No. She is saying to him stop being a big girls blouse and act like a man.

is he a big girls blouse: yes

he acts like a woman but has no womanly charm or warmth

Beso 23-01-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7520696)
No. She is saying to him stop being a big girls blouse and act like a man.

is he a big girls blouse: yes

he acts like a woman but has no womanly charm or warmth

:joker:,,you should have met my ex wife!

the truth 23-01-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7520696)
No. She is saying to him stop being a big girls blouse and act like a man.

is he a big girls blouse: yes

he acts like a woman but has no womanly charm or warmth

sexist

Rob4 23-01-2015 07:46 AM

It could be used in a homophobic way, but in this instance no.

Mystic Mock 23-01-2015 07:46 AM

So what if Perez behaves feminine? Every guy has something feminine about them (being on a BB Forum for all of us guys is the perfect example) and I'm pretty sure that every woman has something more masculine about them? There's nothing wrong in that, and only narrow minded people like Katie Hopkins can agree with her on that imo.

Crimson Dynamo 23-01-2015 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7520704)
sexist

oh stop, you big flirt

:blush2:

the truth 23-01-2015 07:49 AM

strange how the protector of gay people sticks the knife into perez, maybe hes not her type of gay person? the bitter twat

Mystic Mock 23-01-2015 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7520704)
sexist

Ni siht esac kniht yltnereffid?

the truth 23-01-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7520711)
oh stop, you big flirt

:blush2:

stalker alert:smug:

Jack The Cat 23-01-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7520704)
sexist

So are you are saying, that as a stand alone phrase it is not homophobic then?

the truth 23-01-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7520714)
Ni siht esac kniht yltnereffid?

is Katie talking Nazi now :cheer2:

Mystic Mock 23-01-2015 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7520711)
oh stop, you big flirt

:blush2:

:joker:

the truth 23-01-2015 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7520717)
So are you are saying, that as a stand alone phrase it is not homophobic then?

standalone phrase wtf u mean if its said to a wall?

Mystic Mock 23-01-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7520718)
is Katie talking Nazi now :cheer2:

:laugh3:

She might be who knows?

Kazanne 23-01-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7520451)
By which I mean, is the phrase "Take It Like A Man" in your opinion a homophobic insult. Not in relation to anyone in particular but in the real world general way.

I do think it can be seen as sexist but I am specifically talking about a homophobic insult.

Of course not,I don't see why it's even an issue,so many overly sensitive people thinking people are having a pop at them,it's laughable,all it means is be strong and stop being childish,it's a compliment to men ,if anything.


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