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elliebrew 25-01-2015 12:04 PM

NADIA is the root of all the house problems
 
The ENTIRE problem in the house stems from one one source i think.

Nadia has come into the show with an agenda and pre conceptions about people. Preconceptions she will NOT LOOK PAST.

Nadia completely refuses to see Perez for what he is. She believes that if she does side with the others then it somehow allowing Katie Hopkins to win.

And Nadias stubborn nature could never allow this.

Nadia is furious that Hopkins is popular in the house because she was convinced that Hopkins would be exactly like her online persona.

Its knocked Nadia for six that other housemates have seen past the persona and actually get on with her. Something Nadia wasn't expecting.

So her stubborn and blinded Support of Perez is the only control she feels she has.

She believes her opinions to be moral and just and ANYTHING related to Katie to be the complete antithesis of what she stands for.

The whole issue in the house boils down to Nadias Preconceptions about Katie

JoshBB 25-01-2015 12:05 PM

no, perez is.

Black Dagger 25-01-2015 12:06 PM

Or she can have her own mind and like who she wants to like.

poppsywoppsy 25-01-2015 12:09 PM

I agree with the OP.

Nadia has picked the wrong person to facilitate because he is against Katie.

She has said it many times and now she knows Katie is popular she is showing such a nastiness, it is not nice to watch.

Chuckyegg 25-01-2015 12:10 PM

Nadia isn't controlling Hoppo's mouth

InOne 25-01-2015 12:12 PM

Nope, Katie H is the bad seed.

elliebrew 25-01-2015 12:20 PM

She has gone in there with the intention of showing that Katie Hopkins the error of her ways.

It hasn't worked out as most of the housemates are taking Katie as she is behaving in the house and are getting in with her. Nadia on the other hand is on the outside because she has tacked herself onto the person most at odds with Katie.

Unfortunately for her the others are more than willing to sacrifice spending time with her, in order to get away from Perez.

Nadia is getting more and more frustrated watching Katie having fun and being on good terms with people while she and her principles are sidelined.

Its all down to Perez of course but Nadia is choosing to blame Katie for his behaviour too. I think for Nadia this bb stint has not gone as she expected or planned.

Tarryn 25-01-2015 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527510)
She has gone in there with the intention of showing that Katie Hopkins the error of her ways.

It hasn't worked out as most of the housemates are taking Katie as she is behaving in the house and are getting in with her. Nadia on the other hand is on the outside because she has tacked herself onto the person most at odds with Katie.

Unfortunately for her the others are more than willing to sacrifice spending time with her, in order to get away from Perez.

Nadia is getting more and more frustrated watching Katie having fun and being on good terms with people while she and her principles are sidelined.

Its all down to Perez of course but Nadia is choosing to blame Katie for his behaviour too. I think for Nadia this bb stint has not gone as she expected or planned.

Nadia has stuck to her morals & principles.
Something Katie H would know nothing about.

Lostie! 25-01-2015 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527469)
The ENTIRE problem in the house stems from one one source i think.

Nadia has come into the show with an agenda and pre conceptions about people. Preconceptions she will NOT LOOK PAST.

Nadia completely refuses to see Perez for what he is. She believes that if she does side with the others then it somehow allowing Katie Hopkins to win.

And Nadias stubborn nature could never allow this.

Nadia is furious that Hopkins is popular in the house because she was convinced that Hopkins would be exactly like her online persona.

Its knocked Nadia for six that other housemates have seen past the persona and actually get on with her. Something Nadia wasn't expecting.

So her stubborn and blinded Support of Perez is the only control she feels she has.

She believes her opinions to be moral and just and ANYTHING related to Katie to be the complete antithesis of what she stands for.

The whole issue in the house boils down to Nadias Preconceptions about Katie

Nope. Nadia has tried to reign Perez in on several occasions. People act like she's totally blind to his bad points, but what we've actually seen contradicts that. When he acts up, she has no qualms about telling him to calm down.

If anything, Nadia is one of the most rational in there, she just goes about some things the wrong way and is a bit too overbearing with it sometimes. Even back with Ken, she was initially fair, even telling Cami to shut up and "let him speak", before getting carried away in her own anger. As for her preconceptions about Katie, so what? Some people don't believe that Katie being semi-decent sometimes in the house erases all of the awful things she's said.

You made a thread about Michelle being the most misunderstood. I think that title belongs to Nadia, easily.

Kazanne 25-01-2015 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527510)
She has gone in there with the intention of showing that Katie Hopkins the error of her ways.

It hasn't worked out as most of the housemates are taking Katie as she is behaving in the house and are getting in with her. Nadia on the other hand is on the outside because she has tacked herself onto the person most at odds with Katie.

Unfortunately for her the others are more than willing to sacrifice spending time with her, in order to get away from Perez.

Nadia is getting more and more frustrated watching Katie having fun and being on good terms with people while she and her principles are sidelined.

Its all down to Perez of course but Nadia is choosing to blame Katie for his behaviour too. I think for Nadia this bb stint has not gone as she expected or planned.

:clap1:

-Sue- 25-01-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 7527516)
Nadia has stuck to her morals & principles.
Something Katie H would know nothing about.

:clap1:

-Sue- 25-01-2015 12:27 PM

Nadia is not the source of the problem at all! After all she has been branded a 'coward' right? so how can her actions be a problem?

The problem is simply this.. she is friends with someone many in the house do NOT like..THAT is her only problem and from that she has been branded many things all of which she is not

Perez & Katie cause the main tension.. the other petty arguments can be blamed on booze or lack of things to do

Black Dagger 25-01-2015 12:32 PM

Hopkins is having fun? The same woman who showed immense disgust at a couple of people singing last night.. ok

Josy 25-01-2015 12:36 PM

Just because Nadia hasn't jumped on the 'I love Katie' bandwagon like Michelle and a few others in there doesn't mean she's the root of all the problems.

Good on her for being able to form her own opinions without others clouding her judgement.

I think both Perez and Katie H are more than obviously the root of all the problems.

chuff me dizzy 25-01-2015 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527469)
The ENTIRE problem in the house stems from one one source i think.

Nadia has come into the show with an agenda and pre conceptions about people. Preconceptions she will NOT LOOK PAST.

Nadia completely refuses to see Perez for what he is. She believes that if she does side with the others then it somehow allowing Katie Hopkins to win.

And Nadias stubborn nature could never allow this.

Nadia is furious that Hopkins is popular in the house because she was convinced that Hopkins would be exactly like her online persona.

Its knocked Nadia for six that other housemates have seen past the persona and actually get on with her. Something Nadia wasn't expecting.

So her stubborn and blinded Support of Perez is the only control she feels she has.

She believes her opinions to be moral and just and ANYTHING related to Katie to be the complete antithesis of what she stands for.

The whole issue in the house boils down to Nadias Preconceptions about Katie

:clap1: Post of the series, so glad others have seen it, she has got her knife into Dame KHs back at every chance she's got, even changing the subject to do it, She's come in there and tried to bring her down, to have something to say when she gets out of there ,but she's failed miserably

sampvt 25-01-2015 12:38 PM

Nadia is the unleaded that Perez needs to fuel his trolling machine. If she runs dry, he will die a horrible death. Every time he goes off on one, he runs to back to hide under her bushel. Nadia has hero worship from Patsy and she isn't troubled by her love for Perez, she is troubled because she knows she has played the wrong game and she cant get out from underneath it without looking like a complete two faced bitch.

-Sue- 25-01-2015 12:39 PM

Far as I remember it's not illegal to like nice people

sampvt 25-01-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7527554)
Far as I remember it's not illegal to like nice people

Who said Nadia was nice

-Sue- 25-01-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7527557)
Who said Nadia was nice

I did after all it was my opinion :shrug:

sampvt 25-01-2015 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7527561)
I did after all it was my opinion :shrug:

And I think she is a bitch, snap

Black Dagger 25-01-2015 12:45 PM

You arent allowed Sue! You must jump on the Hopkins redemption arc because she is oh so perfect.

chuff me dizzy 25-01-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_ (Post 7527567)
You arent allowed Sue! You must jump on the Hopkins redemption arc because she is oh so perfect.

My little flowerpot has seen the light !! grab some daffs Lucas xx :flowers:

Tarryn 25-01-2015 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7527557)
Who said Nadia was nice

Nice, good, genuine, helpful.
All of the above.
Some people just don't recognise such qualities :shrug:

-Sue- 25-01-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_ (Post 7527567)
You arent allowed Sue! You must jump on the Hopkins redemption arc because she is oh so perfect.

Id rather eat my own waste than like that woman lol:joker:

elliebrew 25-01-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 7527573)
Nice, good, genuine, helpful.
All of the above.
Some people just don't recognise such qualities :shrug:

Judgemental, stubborn, miserable

More like it

-Sue- 25-01-2015 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7527566)
And I think she is a bitch, snap

specsavers isn't open on sundays sadly:hehe:

Black Dagger 25-01-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7527572)
My little flowerpot has seen the light !! grab some daffs Lucas xx :flowers:

Oh it was sarcasm. Sorry :(. Can I still have the daffs?! Xo

Black Dagger 25-01-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527576)
Judgemental, stubborn, miserable

More like it

Funny enough you described Hopkins there.

Suze 25-01-2015 12:50 PM

RE: NADIA is the root of all the house problems
 
Of course she isn't :D All housemates attribute to certain situations in there. That's the nature of BB.

Tarryn 25-01-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527576)
Judgemental, stubborn, miserable

More like it

Great comeback..................

chuff me dizzy 25-01-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_ (Post 7527581)
Oh it was sarcasm. Sorry :(. Can I still have the daffs?! Xo

I know it was :joker: but I can but hope, the daffs are yours :hug:

Black Dagger 25-01-2015 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7527590)
I know it was :joker: but I can but hope, the daffs are yours :hug:

Yay :hug:

elliebrew 25-01-2015 12:53 PM

If Nadia despises all that Katie stands for then why does she not have the same opinion of Perez who stands for almost the same?

Outside of the house he has destroyed many people reputations, careers, relationships. He has hurt hundreds of people mentally and emotionally.

For her to disagree with Hopkins means she surely disagrees with Perez who has done far worse for far longer.

Unless of course she is just taking him on face value in the house and allowing a clean slate.

Are you seeing the irony.

The double standards

Jules2 25-01-2015 01:02 PM

Hi all, well I agree with the OP totally. Had Nadia not taken over in the beginning with her assumptons that she was peacemaking, ermmmm "Get the police? Had she not poked her nose in every which way, she may have kept the credibility. Katie was very prepared to take Nadia to her heart, they have never really said to Nadia dont be friends with Perez, it has been more a case of dont encourage him, because this is what she has done. She has been his "Enabler" as someone said but she would rather put a negative vein on all things.

Liked her in the beginning cant stand her now, lovely looking woman and I love her hair but that is all. Her ideas of Katie need to be trimmed after all didnt Alicia come to the conclusion that Katie is really a lovely person and she was in there with her. I hope Nadia is out next but I doubt whether she will be if Cami is up then I fear she may be out. Then we have Kav but tbh he hasnt been given much airtime, it is a case of act up or we wont show you grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! Not really liking Keith tbh but he is now favourite to win, I hope he doesnt he hasnt done much at all other than show his teeth.

chuff me dizzy 25-01-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527596)
If Nadia despises all that Katie stands for then why does she not have the same opinion of Perez who stands for almost the same?

Outside of the house he has destroyed many people reputations, careers, relationships. He has hurt hundreds of people mentally and emotionally.

For her to disagree with Hopkins means she surely disagrees with Perez who has done far worse for far longer.

Unless of course she is just taking him on face value in the house and allowing a clean slate.

Are you seeing the irony.

The double standards

Well said !! :cheer2:

chuff me dizzy 25-01-2015 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules2 (Post 7527617)
Hi all, well I agree with the OP totally. Had Nadia not taken over in the beginning with her assumptons that she was peacemaking, ermmmm "Get the police? Had she not poked her nose in every which way, she may have kept the credibility. Katie was very prepared to take Nadia to her heart, they have never really said to Nadia dont be friends with Perez, it has been more a case of dont encourage him, because this is what she has done. She has been his "Enabler" as someone said but she would rather put a negative vein on all things.

Liked her in the beginning cant stand her now, lovely looking woman and I love her hair but that is all. Her ideas of Katie need to be trimmed after all didnt Alicia come to the conclusion that Katie is really a lovely person and she was in there with her. I hope Nadia is out next but I doubt whether she will be if Cami is up then I fear she may be out. Then we have Kav but tbh he hasnt been given much airtime, it is a case of act up or we wont show you grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! Not really liking Keith tbh but he is now favourite to win, I hope he doesnt he hasnt done much at all other than show his teeth.

IF NoNads had walked after from Pervez early on she would maybe have stood a tiny chance of winning, but IMO she latched onto him wrongly thinking he could win this,I used to like her before CBB ,I cannot bear her now ,she's made a massive mistake by taking sides with the most hated hm8 for a long time ,and its cost her any hope she had of winning,and done her career no good

-Sue- 25-01-2015 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527596)
If Nadia despises all that Katie stands for then why does she not have the same opinion of Perez who stands for almost the same?

Outside of the house he has destroyed many people reputations, careers, relationships. He has hurt hundreds of people mentally and emotionally.

For her to disagree with Hopkins means she surely disagrees with Perez who has done far worse for far longer.

Unless of course she is just taking him on face value in the house and allowing a clean slate.

Are you seeing the irony.

The double standards

Difference being Perez has not voiced his nasty opinions (unless in argument) in the house..

Soon as her mouth is open pure hate comes out she doesn't seem able to have a laugh at her own expense only the expense of others where as Perez will make jokes of himself..

(Dislcaimer: please note I am not a big Perez supporter but I will defend him when being compared to Katie's actions)

I see his continued ridicule by KH as beyond a joke and very uncomfy to watch why can't she just let it go and ignore him or carry on doing what she is doing? why can't she sit him down and have a 1 to 1 and talk it out? why does everything he does have to be discussed why not just talk directly to him?

See now I have never followed Perez's antics outside of the house.(yes I have since googled) .maybe that's why I don't see it I am simply judging him by what I see IN the house..but Katie's opinions have continued in the house hence my insane dislike of her - he is a nut job.. can go from sane to fruit loop in under a minute.. but his antics are not hurting anyone but himself (in there) they are however annoying many (in there) but they are not mean / hurtful...

Jules2 25-01-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7527619)
Well said !! :cheer2:

:wavey:I think Perez has them under his spell, he tells them constantly that he is going to be there until the end, he says that Katie ought to be with him because he thinks he is going to win. As I said before he thinks she should be attached to his posterior, oh the ego knows no bounds, yuck! Now Nadia and Patsy may think this is the way to go, he is the king of the house so therefore lets stay in with him.

Katie went in with a bad reputation from outside but people have succumbed to her way and realised that she isnt such a bad person after all. Whether she wins or not she has definitely altered a lot of peoples minds whereas for Nadia it may have gone the other way because of the double standards as someone said. He is a thousand times worse than Ken was! Who wants to see his naked body in his pathetic trunks, his antics with the poor old window. He insults a lot of people and he thinks he is gods gift to the world.

elliebrew 25-01-2015 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7527632)
Difference being Perez has not voiced his nasty opinions (unless in argument) in the house..

Soon as her mouth is open pure hate comes out she doesn't seem able to have a laugh at her own expense only the expense of others where as Perez will make jokes of himself..

(Dislcaimer: please note I am not a big Perez supporter but I will defend him when being compared to Katie's actions)

I see his continued ridicule by KH as beyond a joke and very uncomfy to watch why can't she just let it go and ignore him or carry on doing what she is doing? why can't she sit him down and have a 1 to 1 and talk it out? why does everything he does have to be discussed why not just talk directly to him?

See now I have never followed Perez's antics outside of the house.(yes I have since googled) .maybe that's why I don't see it I am simply judging him by what I see IN the house..but Katie's opinions have continued in the house hence my insane dislike of her - he is a nut job.. can go from sane to fruit loop in under a minute.. but his antics are not hurting anyone but himself (in there) they are however annoying many (in there) but they are not mean / hurtful...

Perez has practically accused people or being rapists, perverts and homophobic thugs.

All these are far more damaging to a persons career and life

Josy 25-01-2015 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 7527596)
If Nadia despises all that Katie stands for then why does she not have the same opinion of Perez who stands for almost the same?

Outside of the house he has destroyed many people reputations, careers, relationships. He has hurt hundreds of people mentally and emotionally.

For her to disagree with Hopkins means she surely disagrees with Perez who has done far worse for far longer.

Unless of course she is just taking him on face value in the house and allowing a clean slate.

Are you seeing the irony.

The double standards

I don't see any double standards.

Maybe she is viewing them both with only their actions inside the house which in that case I can see why she still thinks Katie H is a ****.

Or maybe she is viewing them from both their actions inside the house and out of it and she thinks Katie Hopkins is worse than Perez, she is allowed to think what she wants and form her own opinions.


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