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Mystic Mock 28-01-2015 04:34 AM

Would you arrest someone if they openly mocked Religion?
 
I'm interested because some might see it as a prejudice of a kind, as you would be singling out a culture, do you think it's okay to take the piss out of Religion? Personally I'm all for freedom of speech, as long as they don't get physically attacked for following a Religion, or an individual be harassed for following a Religion, then I don't see the problem personally.

What do you guys think?

And if this is in the wrong section then I'm sorry for the mistake, and hopefully the Mods will move it to an appropriate section.

Northern Monkey 28-01-2015 06:53 AM

I agree with you on this.Religion has been mocked for years.

kirklancaster 28-01-2015 07:02 AM

I voted 'No' because half of TIBB would be fecking locked up and it would be a lonely forum. :laugh:

Seriously Mock - they're's too much 'Nanny State' legislation on trivial matters. It's all getting out of hand.

If in real life someone persisted in taking the piss out of me because I was a Christian, I'd take the piss back - only more expertly so - and make him look like the idiot he is. Unfortunately we can't do that on here though.

Kizzy 28-01-2015 09:13 AM

No because for now we still have freedom of expression, whether someone takes exception to your opinion it's never a reason to try and curb anyones thought processes.
It smacks of 1984.

Nedusa 28-01-2015 09:14 AM

No............obviously

They can say what they want, it's their right

I don't have to stand there and listen to it.





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Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2015 09:24 AM

No. Belief in gods has no greater status than believing in the loch ness monster or klingons. And the sooner we realise this the better

smudgie 28-01-2015 09:58 AM

No.

Would you arrest someone because they don't believe?

Live and let live.

Livia 28-01-2015 11:48 AM

People have mocked religion since there has been religion. I don't have a problem with it, humour is healthy. Everyone's faith or lack of faith is their own affair, but joking is allowed - up to the point of ridicule. Then you're on thinner ice.

the truth 28-01-2015 02:34 PM

so why is it ok to mock religion and not sexuality?

Livia 28-01-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7539710)
so why is it ok to mock religion and not sexuality?

It's okay to mock either, so long as it doesn't deteriorate into ridicule. Like I said, it's all about intent.

the truth 28-01-2015 03:04 PM

has anyone ever heard anyone mock the act of homosexuality on tv this decade? Ive seen Jesus as an alcoholic and dressed in nappies and Joseph as a rapist, but Ive not heard anything like the same level of mockery of muslims jews or gay people. strange that?

user104658 28-01-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7539787)
has anyone ever heard anyone mock the act of homosexuality on tv this decade? Ive seen Jesus as an alcoholic and dressed in nappies and Joseph as a rapist, but Ive not heard anything like the same level of mockery of muslims jews or gay people. strange that?

Seriously?... You haven't seen homosexuality mocked on TV this decade..? It's parodied in comedy shows all the time! Have you ever watched South Park or Family Guy? They each mock both religion and homosexuality pretty equally. And everything else, for that matter. The South Park game (2014) had an entire level set up a gay man's arse...

user104658 28-01-2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7538953)
No. Belief in gods has no greater status than believing in the loch ness monster or klingons. And the sooner we realise this the better

:joker: how do you get away with these things LT... I get tarred and feathered for less!

Redway 28-01-2015 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7539710)
so why is it ok to mock religion and not sexuality?

Because religion is a choice, sexuality is not.

JoshBB 28-01-2015 03:19 PM

Would I arrest them? (assuming this means if I could) No. I would definitely think less of them for doing it though.

Nedusa 28-01-2015 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7538953)
No. Belief in gods has no greater status than believing in the loch ness monster or klingons. And the sooner we realise this the better

Be strange if God showed himself and he was a child from a highly advanced superior race.

And we (the Earth) were his school science project.....


Didn't see that one coming..... Lol





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Niamh. 28-01-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7539849)
Be strange if God showed himself and he was a child from a highly advanced superior race.

And we (the Earth) were his school science project.....


Didn't see that one coming..... Lol





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lol it's as possible as anything else I guess

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 28-01-2015 03:29 PM

if they were ugly yes

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose McGowan (Post 7539860)
if they were ugly yes


Fair point

Niall 28-01-2015 04:45 PM

No. Religion and the religious should be aware that some mockery may be thrown their way over the course of their lives. It's their choice to remain in such a belief system, and just as I expect people to make fun of me for being a left wing quasi-hipster, so too should they expect a little fun made of them for what they believe in.

That is to say, joking about a religion is not the same as hatred or disrespect toward a religious group, and I do think that most people have the sense to know what's hateful/offensive when they see it.

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2015 04:48 PM

It also goes the other way where no vicar, rabbi or nun should get any special reverential treatment above a street sweeper or newsagent.

kirklancaster 30-01-2015 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7540101)
It also goes the other way where no vicar, rabbi or nun should get any special reverential treatment above a street sweeper or newsagent.

Why do you just example Church of England, Judaic, and Roman Catholic religious figures? What's so exclusive about Imans?i Should they receive special reverential treatment then?

Oh.... I forgot.... They already do in the UK. Silly old Kirk. :blush:

Northern Monkey 30-01-2015 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7539849)
Be strange if God showed himself and he was a child from a highly advanced superior race.

And we (the Earth) were his school science project.....


Didn't see that one coming..... Lol





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What if we are just one tiny atom in somebodies chair leg or table?or anything.

Nedusa 30-01-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7547068)
What if we are just one tiny atom in somebodies chair leg or table?or anything.

Amazing thought...........what if also an atom in your fingernail also contained a vast Star system..........

Need to keep off the Grass methinks.......







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user104658 30-01-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7547068)
What if we are just one tiny atom in somebodies chair leg or table?or anything.

:shocked: What if our entire universe is an atom in a hair on a really sweaty giant's ballsack...

user104658 30-01-2015 10:13 AM

Hold on, isn't this basically the plot of Men In Black?

http://thuban.spruz.com/gfile/75r4!-...lgalaxycat.png

http://www.lobshots.com/wp-content/u...117Marbles.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 30-01-2015 10:14 AM

I wonder what a religionist would do if they took their child to a doctor as the child was very ill and the doctor turned them away and told them to pray to their god to heal the child.?

I am thinking that in this instance they would not be that keen on prayer and the healing power of their chosen god.

Nedusa 30-01-2015 10:18 AM

Don't they do that already in some parts of Africa and Asia ?





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Niamh. 30-01-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7547250)
:shocked: What if our entire universe is an atom in a hair on a really sweaty giant's ballsack...

:laugh: I always think that (not the giants ballsack bit lol) I love that film Horton Hears a Who, I was watching it thinking, wow this could be us on that flower :think:

**I'm not mocking religion here, I genuinely think that it's a good possibility

user104658 30-01-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7547259)
I wonder what a religionist would do if they took their child to a doctor as the child was very ill and the doctor turned them away and told them to pray to their god to heal the child.?

I am thinking that in this instance they would not be that keen on prayer and the healing power of their chosen god.

What's always confused me more than that, is that religious people are still distraught when their loved ones die (even if their loved ones were devout, too). I mean... if they really believe... then why? Is it just selfishness / because they will "be missed"? The level of grief makes that feel a bit unlikely, but surely they truly believe that their loved ones are now somewhere better, peaceful, and generally awesome? Shouldn't they be like "Ohhh yay! Lucky Bob!!". This is also not mocking - it's something I genuinely wonder about. Because I know that these people themselves DO really believe it and yet, they are devastated by losing loved ones.

My stance on it right now is that, basically, I think that (as irrational as I find religion) religious belief is a part of the rational mind; it's learned, consciously fully believed, even subconsciously very deeply embedded. But when it comes right down to a kick in the guts like losing someone, instinct kicks in and leaves the person devastated. On that most basic level, they "know" that that person is just gone. As that initial pain fades and the grieving process progresses they later start to reintroduce the idea that they will "see them again, one day".

Crimson Dynamo 30-01-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7547301)
What's always confused me more than that, is that religious people are still distraught when their loved ones die (even if their loved ones were devout, too). I mean... if they really believe... then why? Is it just selfishness / because they will "be missed"? The level of grief makes that feel a bit unlikely, but surely they truly believe that their loved ones are now somewhere better, peaceful, and generally awesome? Shouldn't they be like "Ohhh yay! Lucky Bob!!". This is also not mocking - it's something I genuinely wonder about. Because I know that these people themselves DO really believe it and yet, they are devastated by losing loved ones.

My stance on it right now is that, basically, I think that (as irrational as I find religion) religious belief is a part of the rational mind; it's learned, consciously fully believed, even subconsciously very deeply embedded. But when it comes right down to a kick in the guts like losing someone, instinct kicks in and leaves the person devastated. On that most basic level, they "know" that that person is just gone. As that initial pain fades and the grieving process progresses they later start to reintroduce the idea that they will "see them again, one day".

Indeed. Wishful thinking is hardwired into our psyche as its evolutionary successful, or at least has been. When food was scarce, disease killed you and climate and animals killed you the hope that something big and all powerful would protect the good was a great way of dealing with the sh1t that came along. Survival of the fittest and strongest will always lead to the weak thinking "well when you die you will pay for this you swine..":fist:

user104658 30-01-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7547364)
Indeed. Wishful thinking is hardwired into our psyche as its evolutionary successful, or at least has been. When food was scarce, disease killed you and climate and animals killed you the hope that something big and all powerful would protect the good was a great way of dealing with the sh1t that came along. Survival of the fittest and strongest will always lead to the weak thinking "well when you die you will pay for this you swine..":fist:

"Fortune favors the brave", I suppose. On those harsh nights with scarce food, someone who believed that something powerful was "watching their back" might be more likely to face their fear, venture out, make a kill and eat. Someone afraid and hopeless might simply cower in their cave and starve.

It's an interesting concept for the "inheritance" of early religion, at least.

Northern Monkey 30-01-2015 12:22 PM

I think religion came about due to a lack of knowledge.People even before the ancient Egyptians worshiped the sun,moon and stars because they had no clue what they were and they are so spectacular.I think the theories of all powerful beings and creators came later and then even later the concept of an afterlife evolved due to the 'wishful thinking' part.This has gradually transfered over to the newer religions such as Christianity,Judaism and Islam.Various ideas in the newer religions are taken straight from the ancient ones.

Northern Monkey 30-01-2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7547250)
:shocked: What if our entire universe is an atom in a hair on a really sweaty giant's ballsack...

Anything could be possible.


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