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Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2015 03:54 PM

Benedict Cumberbatch in race storm
 
I thought black was a colour? :shrug:


And who decided specifically (name please) that the term coloured was now not to be used?

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  • Benedict Cumberbatch called black people 'coloured' on show Travis Smiley
  • He was hitting out at lack of opportunities for black British actors in UK
  • His use of 'outmoded' racial terminology sparked outrage among viewers
  • 38-year-old Oscar nominee said: 'I'm devastated to have caused offense'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3Q8TvWSWn

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...2301322844.jpg

Niamh. 28-01-2015 03:56 PM

Oh my daughter loves him, can't wait to get home and tell her he's a big racist now :hehe:

http://i.imgur.com/k7B6ggu.jpg

JoshBB 28-01-2015 03:57 PM

?? I've never thought "coloured" or "black" were racist at all, they are surely mere descriptors.. and he also meant no harm therefore why are people so offended? Surely even if he used a word thought to be racist it would be his intentions behind it and not the word (the 'sound') itself which we assign definitions to

Nedusa 28-01-2015 04:02 PM

Any excuse to be offended from the big chip on the shoulder brigade.....





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Nedusa 28-01-2015 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7539954)
Oh my daughter loves him, can't wait to get home and tell her he's a big racist now :hehe:

http://i.imgur.com/k7B6ggu.jpg

Love the picture from father Ted..... One of my favourite episodes.

kirklancaster 28-01-2015 04:05 PM

The world's gone stark staring bonkers.

Niamh. 28-01-2015 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7539979)
Love the picture from father Ted..... One of my favourite episodes.

:laugh:

Shaun 28-01-2015 04:08 PM

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that 'coloured' is a dated word...

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7539988)
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that 'coloured' is a dated word...

I read that in Denmark Black is a nono and everyone uses coloured

Niamh. 28-01-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7539988)
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that 'coloured' is a dated word...

Yeah me too but tbf I think his intentions were good

smudgie 28-01-2015 04:10 PM

:shrug: it changes all the tine I suppose.
My nephew was of mixed race when he was born, now he is apparently dual heritage:shrug:

I think when someone is being interviewed and is obviously the opposite of a racist it should be easy enough to understand.

arista 28-01-2015 04:11 PM

He said sorry fast

Nedusa 28-01-2015 04:11 PM

Wtf do we say then.....

Black, Non white, Coloured, absence of Coloured, dark, very dark, ebony, coal coloured, outer space colour, onyx, charcoal, grey, taupe, slate, noir , phthalo


They all mean pretty much the same........ Black

So why take offence when none is intended.





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Locke. 28-01-2015 04:11 PM

Should be pointed out that he was actually speaking up for black actors not getting enough opportunities in the UK when he used the term.

Quote:

He said: "I think as far as coloured actors go, it gets really different in the UK, and a lot of my friends have had more opportunities here [in the US] than in the UK, and that's something that needs to change.

"Something's gone wrong, we're not representative enough in our culture of different races and that really does need to step up a pace."

Following the interview, Cumberbatch was praised for the sentiment of his argument, but also criticised for using the outdated phrase.

In a statement, the Oscar nominee said: "I'm devastated to have caused offence by using this outmoded terminology. I offer my sincere apologies.

"I make no excuse for my being an idiot and know the damage is done."

Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...#ixzz3Q8YlJ7YM
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Shaun 28-01-2015 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7539992)
Yeah me too but tbf I think his intentions were good

Oh yeah I know, I saw an article about David Oyelewo (I gather he's the topic of this 'row' after he was snubbed of an Oscar nomination) defending him as well.

Niamh. 28-01-2015 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke. (Post 7540002)
Should be pointed out that he was actually speaking up for black actors not getting enough opportunities in the UK when he used the term.

Yeah people need to gain a little perspective, he didn't mean to cause offense and certainly didn't want to be seen as racist, he was being the complete opposite

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2015 04:14 PM

why is coloured now no good?

Tiger woods called himself a "brown dude" the other day - which is more accurate than black

arista 28-01-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7540011)
why is coloured now no good?

Tiger woods called himself a "brown dude" the other day - which is more accurate than black


A load of Activist have Padlocked it.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 28-01-2015 04:27 PM

his face offends me

user104658 28-01-2015 04:28 PM

Not sure why something being outdated suddenly makes it racist? It's not like it's "the N word" which was mostly used as a slur and so obviously is not acceptable... "Coloured" is just "old fashioned", I don't really understand why it's supposedly offensive. As far as I know, the word hasn't really been used in a derogatory context in the past?

If anything, looking at it logically, "black" should be offensive! Very few black people are even close to having a skin tone that is actually "black"... it sort of seems like a massive generalisation to me... to say that just because someone has a darker skin tone they are "black" sort of sounds a bit racist :shrug:

Niamh. 28-01-2015 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 7540044)
Not sure why something being outdated suddenly makes it racist? It's not like it's "the N word" which was mostly used as a slur and so obviously is not acceptable... "Coloured" is just "old fashioned", I don't really understand why it's supposedly offensive. As far as I know, the word hasn't really been used in a derogatory context in the past?

If anything, looking at it logically, "black" should be offensive! Very few black people are even close to having a skin tone that is actually "black"... it sort of seems like a massive generalisation to me... to say that just because someone has a darker skin tone they are "black" sort of sounds a bit racist :shrug:

yeah but white people aren't really white either or all the same skin colour

letmein 29-01-2015 05:05 AM

"Colored" has been a slur since the mid 20th century. 99.9% of people are aware of the fact.

Mystic Mock 29-01-2015 05:45 AM

Tbf he didn't seem to mean it offensively so people should let it go imo.

Tom4784 29-01-2015 07:35 AM

He was silly to use that word but it's stupid to get upset over it when he was criticizing the business for it's marginalization of black people. People truly look for reasons to be offended these days.

user104658 29-01-2015 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7543258)
He was silly to use that word but it's stupid to get upset over it when he was criticizing the business for it's marginalization of black people. People truly look for reasons to be offended these days.

Well exactly... he went out of his way to make a statement that is the exact opposite of racism, and was blasted for not using the right word. It's a bit of a joke, really. People will simply stop speaking up at all for fear of accidentally getting it wrong - and then they'll be branded racist for "not saying anything".

Kizzy 29-01-2015 12:34 PM

https://33.media.tumblr.com/15fba5c0...tmado1_500.gif

See.. it's people of colour, not coloured people ben! god ben you're so stoopid.

Livia 29-01-2015 12:58 PM

So let me get this straight... He was highlighting the unfairness in the industry for black actors. And in doing that he used the word coloured... and that's the thing that's got the attention? If he didn't use it as an insult and he was highlighting an injustice for black actors, maybe they should cut him some slack.

Northern Monkey 29-01-2015 01:31 PM

So how we gonna know when 'black' becomes a racist term?When we get the police knocking at the door because we said a racist word?He did'nt say ****** fgs.I might just decide to be offended by being called white,I am clearly a mixture of pink and brown and maybe a touch of white.I now wish to called 'multicoloured'.

Nedusa 29-01-2015 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7544001)
So how we gonna know when 'black' becomes a racist term?When we get the police knocking at the door because we said a racist word?He did'nt say ****** fgs.I might just decide to be offended by being called white,I am clearly a mixture of pink and brown and maybe a touch of white.I now wish to called 'multicoloured'.

Sorry...........can't use the word "Black" anymore either.

Blackboard............Chalkboard
Blacklist................Blocklist
Blackballed............Ballotballed
Blackmailed............Extorted

So the word Black is slowly being removed from our lexicon


Political correctness gone ...MAD !!!





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Brother Leon 29-01-2015 02:19 PM

Coloured is very offensive, but he was coming from a good place tbf and just didn't know better.

GiRTh 29-01-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7540011)
why is coloured now no good?

Tiger woods called himself a "brown dude" the other day - which is more accurate than black

I cant even be bothered to answer this.

GiRTh 29-01-2015 02:22 PM

His apology was very genuine and everybody seems to have moved on. If you dont think the word colored in offensive then sorry but no one cares. It went out of date ages and if you missed it then too bad.

GiRTh 29-01-2015 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7539977)
Any excuse to be offended from the big chip on the shoulder brigade.....





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I consider this a be an actual racist comment. The term 'chip on the shoulder' was used during the civil right movement to highlight blacks who were not acting in the way some wanted them to. Are the chip on shoulder brigade uppity too?

Crimson Dynamo 29-01-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7544206)
I consider this a be an actual racist comment. The term 'chip on the shoulder' was used during the civil right movement to highlight blacks who were not acting in the way some wanted them to. Are the chip on shoulder brigade uppity too?

:joker:


could not make it up

Crimson Dynamo 29-01-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 7544179)
Coloured is very offensive, but he was coming from a good place tbf and just didn't know better.

why is it offensive and who decided this?

GiRTh 29-01-2015 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7544214)
:joker:


could not make it up

I remember when I was a lad being told I had a chip on my shoulder. Its an old expression that was often used again if f you;ve not heard of it then you're not as clued up as you think.

GiRTh 29-01-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7544216)
why is it offensive and who decided this?

Not you thats for sure.

Niamh. 29-01-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7544228)
I remember when I was a lad being told I had a chip on my shoulder. Its an old expression that was often used again if f you;ve not heard of it then your not as clued up as you think.

I've obviously heard that expression before but never knew where it came from :think:

GiRTh 29-01-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7544214)
:joker:


could not make it up

I find it strange that you dont accept language has changed. Ten years ago words like meme were hardly used but now everyone knows what that is./ Languages change and if you;re not up with the changes then you need to try a little harder.

Crimson Dynamo 29-01-2015 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7544228)
I remember when I was a lad being told I had a chip on my shoulder. Its an old expression that was often used again if f you;ve not heard of it then you're not as clued up as you think.

dont be bloody ridiculous its common parlance and has nothing to do with race

:rolleyes:


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