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johne 28-01-2015 09:58 PM

Was Perez to blame for upsetting Alex?
 
Can anyone shed any light on the argument between Nadia and Kav around the kitchen table tonight when Kav said something like, "How can you support Perez when he did what he did to Alex." She then aggressively supported Perez to Kav, suggesting that Alex had done something far worse. It seemed to me that she thought what Alex had done was so bad that she didn't want to say it out loud on air. At least that's the impression I got.

Denver 28-01-2015 09:58 PM

Yes he sat there pulling faces, making gestures and staring at him until he retaliated

johne 28-01-2015 10:01 PM

Oh is that all. I thought something more serious may have gone on that we didn't see.

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:02 PM

He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

poppsywoppsy 28-01-2015 10:03 PM

Nadia is suggesting something else went on from Alex but won't tell what it is.

What a nasty woman she is, as she said, you can't keep it false all the time and she couldn't.

Denver 28-01-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7542253)
Nadia is suggesting something else went on from Alex but won't tell what it is.

What a nasty woman she is, as she said, you can't keep it false all the time and she couldn't.

She is claiming that the other housemates are lying and that she sw something else

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542263)
She is claiming that the other housemates are lying and that she sw something else

I already commented above what she saw him grabbing his cock asking him did he want some etc there's no denying Alexander was homophobic in my opinion...

JTM45 28-01-2015 10:06 PM

Absolutely NOT!!!!!!
I think Alexander's behaviour was far, far worse than anything Perez did to him.
Remember, Alexander was the one who received a warning for his behaviour towards Perez not the other way around!

All that crap about not eating food because Perez had 'breathed' near it was highly offensive and he did far worse besides.

Denver 28-01-2015 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542272)
I already commented above what she saw him grabbing his cock asking him did he want some etc there's no denying Alexander was homophobic in my opinion...

You made it up and to say he was homophobic yet his best freind in there was gay

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542280)
You made it up and to say he was homophobic yet his best freind in there was gay

I didn't make it up watch the clip back I think I know what I saw...

I'm sick of you constantly trying to defend everyone who isn't Perez and Nadia by saying you didn't see or hear things

Vicky. 28-01-2015 10:08 PM

Cant believe I missed all this alex/perez stuff :facepalm:

Amy Jade 28-01-2015 10:09 PM

Yes he was, Alexander said he left because of Perez in an interview on BOTS.

Jack The Cat 28-01-2015 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542290)
I didn't make it up watch the clip back I think I know what I saw...

I'm sick of you constantly trying to defend everyone who isn't Perez and Nadia by saying you didn't see or hear things

Shouldn't make it personal.:nono:

Denver 28-01-2015 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542290)
I didn't make it up watch the clip back I think I know what I saw...

I'm sick of you constantly trying to defend everyone who isn't Perez and Nadia by saying you didn't see or hear things

Yet you defend Perez and Nadia and hate the rest? Dont put your ****ing double standards on me im sick to death of fans of Perez trying to belittle people who dislike him

Moosething 28-01-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542280)
You made it up and to say he was homophobic yet his best freind in there was gay

*says something racist*

I'm not racist... MY FRIEND IS BLACK

JTM45 28-01-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7542302)
Yes he was, Alexander said he left because of Perez in an interview on BOTS.

No he didn't!
I saw that interview and that's not what he said.:nono:

Jack The Cat 28-01-2015 10:10 PM

Yes Alex left due to the behaviour of Perez.

Denver 28-01-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 7542315)
No he didn't!
I saw that interview and that's not what he said.:nono:

He left as he couldnt trust himself not to beat Perez but i think he should of beat him anyway

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542307)
Yet you defend Perez and Nadia and hate the rest? Dont put your ****ing double standards on me im sick to death of fans of Perez trying to belittle people who dislike him

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7542304)
Shouldn't make it personal.:nono:

I'm sorry for making it personal I went too far I shouldn't do stuff like that it was out of order I'm sorry Adamski it was just everyone yesterday was saying they hadn't heard Patsy or Cami saying chola only Perez etc. But that was wrong of me and I hope you forgive me

MrWong 28-01-2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542243)
He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

Dared cough over his bed? He deliberately and persistantly coughed over his bed, he even told us the viewers that it was a deliberate act.

I'm still unsure why Perez decided to target Alexander.

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moosething (Post 7542314)
*says something racist*

I'm not racist... MY FRIEND IS BLACK

:clap1:

JTM45 28-01-2015 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542326)
He left as he couldnt trust himself not to beat Perez but i think he should of beat him anyway

So he left because of his inability to act like a decent human being then!
What an asshole! :shrug:

Denver 28-01-2015 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 7542345)
So he left because of his inability to act like a decent human being then!
What an asshole! :shrug:

You can only be pushed so far before you snap

JTM45 28-01-2015 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542356)
You can only be pushed so far before you snap

No you can't. It's called self restraint and Alexander clearly didn't have any if he felt he needed to resort to violence. Disgusting attitude!!!!:nono:

Jack The Cat 28-01-2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542340)
I'm sorry for making it personal I went too far I shouldn't do stuff like that it was out of order I'm sorry Adamski it was just everyone yesterday was saying they hadn't heard Patsy or Cami saying chola only Perez etc. But that was wrong of me and I hope you forgive me

Respect.:douf:

If it helps I have heard Patsy and Cami say Chola, I looked it up and it is not a racist word, well no more than Geordie or Scouse is.

Amy Jade 28-01-2015 10:18 PM

Perez bullied poor Alex

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat (Post 7542370)
Respect.:douf:

If it helps I have heard Patsy and Cami say Chola, I looked it up and it is not a racist word, well no more than Geordie or Scouse is.

Thankyou :love:

Jeremy Kyle :love:

Moosething 28-01-2015 10:20 PM

How did nobody hear Patsy saying chola?
she said it like 100 times
selective hearing peeps

Denver 28-01-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moosething (Post 7542386)
How did nobody hear Patsy saying chola?
she said it like 100 times
selective hearing peeps

I never said she didnt imo

Daniel-X 28-01-2015 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moosething (Post 7542386)
How did nobody hear Patsy saying chola?
she said it like 100 times
selective hearing peeps

:clap1:

Literally loads of people were saying it yesterday. Sorry Amy Jade but you was one

Stormy 28-01-2015 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542243)
He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

Sorry...but those where all reactions after Perez started antagonizing him. It was after Perez went beside his bed and woke him up by coughing relentlessly. Perez purposefully went after Alexander and admitted he was fake coughing to annoy him. It continued with Perez following him around and blowing kisses. All done to try and get Alexander to blow. After that, Alexander felt that Perez was after him and he could not even stand to be in the same room as him. Hence, the complaint about him "breathing into the food".

Do I agree with how Alexander handled it? No....but if you're going to poke a lion, don't cry because he bites you. It was Perez's fault...clear and simple.

Edited to add:

Nadia is implying that it was Alexander's fault because she needs an excuse for condoning it. She has no viable reason which is why she is claiming she "won't say anything about it". She could care less about Alexander, it's because she doesn't have a valid reason.

Northern Monkey 28-01-2015 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 7542471)
Sorry...but those where all reactions after Perez started antagonizing him. It was after Perez went beside his bed and woke him up by coughing relentlessly. Perez purposefully went after Alexander and admitted he was fake coughing to annoy him. It continued with Perez following him around and blowing kisses. All done to try and get Alexander to blow. After that, Alexander felt that Perez was after him and he could not even stand to be in the same room as him. Hence, the complaint about him "breathing into the food".

Do I agree with how Alexander handled it? No....but if you're going to poke a lion, don't cry because he bites you. It was Perez's fault...clear and simple.

Edited to add:

Nadia is implying that it was Alexander's fault because she needs an excuse for condoning it. She has no viable reason which is why she is claiming she "won't say anything about it". She could care less about Alexander, it's because she doesn't have a valid reason.

:clap1: yep.Truth.

MrWong 28-01-2015 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 7542471)
Sorry...but those where all reactions after Perez started antagonizing him. It was after Perez went beside his bed and woke him up by coughing relentlessly. Perez purposefully went after Alexander and admitted he was fake coughing to annoy him. It continued with Perez following him around and blowing kisses. All done to try and get Alexander to blow. After that, Alexander felt that Perez was after him and he could not even stand to be in the same room as him. Hence, the complaint about him "breathing into the food".

Do I agree with how Alexander handled it? No....but if you're going to poke a lion, don't cry because he bites you. It was Perez's fault...clear and simple.

Edited to add:

Nadia is implying that it was Alexander's fault because she needs an excuse for condoning it. She has no viable reason which is why she is claiming she "won't say anything about it". She could care less about Alexander, it's because she doesn't have a valid reason.

:clap1:

I still can't figure out why Perez started baiting Alexander in the first place :conf:

Stormy 28-01-2015 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 7542572)
:clap1:

I still can't figure out why Perez started baiting Alexander in the first place :conf:

Personally, I think that Perez didn't intend to go after Alexander, per se. He was just trying to annoy the houseguests for some attention and that night he picked Alexander to cough at. What he didn't expect was for Alexander to get so angry...instead of apologizing and diffusing the situation, Perez just upped his game and went after him because he didn't like how Alexander treated him after the coughing incident.

I love how Nadia went off on everyone tonight after Perez told her what they supposedly said (having no problem that she didn't see/hear it herself)...yet refuses to defend Alex because she has a problem with not seeing/hearing what Perez did to him. Pure example of a hypocrite.

Angelika 29-01-2015 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johne (Post 7542204)
Can anyone shed any light on the argument between Nadia and Kav around the kitchen table tonight when Kav said something like, "How can you support Perez when he did what he did to Alex." She then aggressively supported Perez to Kav, suggesting that Alex had done something far worse. It seemed to me that she thought what Alex had done was so bad that she didn't want to say it out loud on air. At least that's the impression I got.

Kav was bring disingenous about Perez, Nadia wan't taking it!

Perez isn't responsible for what Alexander said or his outragous over-reaction to Perez. Perez has the right to behave like a loon and not be called nssty names by Alex. Nadia wasn't being drawn by Kav to repeat the abusive language Alex used. Kav was furious he couldn't get what he wanted. Stooopid man!

Denver 29-01-2015 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 7542735)
Personally, I think that Perez didn't intend to go after Alexander, per se. He was just trying to annoy the houseguests for some attention and that night he picked Alexander to cough at. What he didn't expect was for Alexander to get so angry...instead of apologizing and diffusing the situation, Perez just upped his game and went after him because he didn't like how Alexander treated him after the coughing incident.

I love how Nadia went off on everyone tonight after Perez told her what they supposedly said (having no problem that she didn't see/hear it herself)...yet refuses to defend Alex because she has a problem with not seeing/hearing what Perez did to him. Pure example of a hypocrite.

:clap1: :clap1:

Mick McMick 29-01-2015 04:25 AM

Perez forced Big Brother's hand with Alex (and Jeremy to an extent)
by using the magic phrase, "I don't feel safe."

When that phrased is used repeatedly, Big Brother is left with no choice but
to remove someone who is making others feel uncomfortable.

Pennie 29-01-2015 04:39 AM

Perez is a *****ing nightmare and goaded Alex, but he did it because Alex is a homophobe.

Semtex 29-01-2015 04:50 AM

Nadir acts like a premiership manager around Perez, she can't ever see what her player has done wrong, but if her player gets a strong challenge she'll be the first on the phone to the FA.

Mystic Mock 29-01-2015 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7542243)
He did nothing wrong. Alexander was DISGUSTING towards Perez telling him he didn't want him breathing over his food and he wouldn't eat it until he walked away. Grabbing his cock and asking him 'Want some of this?'. He was VILE. He was actually a pathetic excuse of time I wouldn't have give him my time of day he was a homophobic prick if he can't handle somebody sitting down and smiling just because he was pissed off with them previously because they dared to cough over his bed then he wasn't really cut out for the show.

I actually didn't mind Alexander, but I do agree with a lot of this, if Perez just being near him causes that reaction then he deserved to go imo.


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